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#1. Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear - from HyperM3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:07:40 -0500 From: HyperM3@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear Ive gone through this before. I had these put on my dads acura cl type-s. I am a hard driver and wore through these in 3 months. I bought them because they were cheap and needed something for the car on the lease turn in. I ended up having to buy new tires for the front. Price came out to be buying better tires in the first place. Oh yeah, they hydroplaned like a bitch too. OTOH-the mich pilot sports on my m3 ive had for 20k+ and cant seem to wear them out. Go figure. Alex "HyperM3 Demsky 97 S/C M3 ~ http://hometown.aol.com/hyperm3/Bimmer.html
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#2. RE: Tire choices/ES100 wear - from Townsend, William
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:19:13 -0500 From: "Townsend, William" <wtownsen@enterasys.com> Subject: RE: Tire choices/ES100 wear I have used SO-3's on a 540i and found them to be awesome tires! Had a set on the car and did 4 auto-x, 9 track days and a total of 15K miles on them and there was 50% left when I sold the car. They were quiet and stuck great wet or dry! I bought the M3 and due to budget tried the Kumho ECSTA MX. These are SO-3's but $50 less per tire. Great in the wet and dry. Had them at Mont Tremblant in the pouring rain and ran at the front of the pack. I put 13K miles on them and 7 track days and there is about 40% left. They are not as quiet as the SO-3's but I don't care, not my daily driver and the performance is worth it. I have replaced the RTAB's and FLCAB's with urethane and delrin respectively so no toe changes here. I have the Yokohama AVS ES100 on my 328 and I hate them. They are the worst tire I have ever purchased. Very noisy with no rain performance. The compound is hard and they won't die now that I wish they would. I have about 10K on them and look like they are new. Scary in the rain for sure! The 328 has urethane bushings all around with Bilstein coil over and turner sway bars. Just my experience, --Bill 96 M3 red 97 328 white
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#3. Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear - from Larry T
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 17:29:52 -0500 From: "Larry T" <ltrainsvt@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear I'd like to add to this. I drive pretty conservatively on the street. My ES100's have about 10k miles on the street, and one(my first) trackday on them. The fronts are fine. There's tons of tread left on the fronts. The rears have started to develop a wear pattern that looks like an "M". It has two big humps on the outsides of the tread. Its the weirdest thing I've ever seen. Tire pressures were always 35psi or around there, and my alignment is dead stock. My buddy has an S4 (I have a 98 M3 coupe), and all FOUR of his tires are doing this. We suspect, then, that its a drive-tire deal. Since I can't rotate my tires, I can't really check if its doing it on the front. I do agree about the road noise. I switched to Dunlop Wintersport M2's, thinking they would be loud with the huge tread block. Nope. So quiet. I couldn't believe the comparison. Their grip is really good, I am pleased with their wet performance, too. The noise and wear, though, are showing for a $100 tire. If the S03 really does wear to 30k miles, I might just have to pony up and get them. Larry >-------------------- 10 -------------------- >Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:33:08 EST >From: Shelhart2@aol.com >Subject: Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear > >They are the worst tires I've purchased. After 5k miles of non track >driving >they make enough noise to drive me crazy. The grip and wet tire traction >is >fine. The wear and road noise is terrible. I'm going back to Michelens. > >Shel _________________________________________________________________ Optimize your Internet experience to the max with the new MSN Premium Internet Software. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200359ave/direct/01/
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#4. Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear - from Taner Halicioglu
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:16:14 -0800 From: Taner Halicioglu <taner@e36m3.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 04:54:48PM -0600, Larry T <ltrainsvt@hotmail.com> wrote: > My buddy has an S4 (I have a 98 M3 coupe), and all FOUR of his tires are > doing this. We suspect, then, that its a drive-tire deal. Since I can't > rotate my tires, I can't really check if its doing it on the front. I recently had ES100's on my S4, as well, and noticed some Really Weird wearing going on. I've since had to replace the fronts already (happened to have 2 spare Toyo T1S tires laying around - these are really good, btw!), and now my rears are basically slicks ;) I doubt I'll ever be buying ES100s again. (I have some Falken Azenis en route for the S4 now). -Taner -- Taner Halicioglu <taner@e36m3.org> 1997 Cosmos Black BMW M3/4 2000 Santorin Blue Audi S4
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#5. RE: Power steering noise - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:33:10 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Power steering noise Jason asked: "Would the incorrect fluid cause this sort of sound? I have no personal experience of this sort but I would not rule it out. KLB
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Tires for sale (was ES100 wear) - from Martin Bullen
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:14:13 -0500 From: Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tires for sale (was ES100 wear) All this talk of tires reminds me that I have some cluttering up my garage: Continental ContiSport Contact, 225/45-17. Take-offs in good condition with 7/32" - 8/32" tread. Evenly worn, with no flats/patches. I have three available, but will separate. $50 each, plus shipping from 19301 (or pick up in Philly area). Martin Bullen '95 M3 '97 Z3 2.8
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Tires/ES100 wear - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:20:32 -0600 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Tires/ES100 wear ----- Original Message ----- From: "Taner Halicioglu" <taner@e36m3.org> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 5:24 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 15:16:14 -0800 > From: Taner Halicioglu <taner@e36m3.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] ES100 wear > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2004 at 04:54:48PM -0600, Larry T <ltrainsvt@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > My buddy has an S4 (I have a 98 M3 coupe), and all FOUR of his tires are > > doing this. We suspect, then, that its a drive-tire deal. Since I can't > > rotate my tires, I can't really check if its doing it on the front. > > I recently had ES100's on my S4, as well, and noticed some Really Weird > wearing going on. I've since had to replace the fronts already (happened to > have 2 spare Toyo T1S tires laying around - these are really good, btw!), and > now my rears are basically slicks ;) I've been running Sumitomo HTRZ-II for street tires for the last couple of years. I put a few track days on 'em 'cause I was saving the Hoosiers for cone-killing, and while they give up some grip to the MXX-3s (and more compared to Hoosiers) they were actually predictable and resonably responsive. At about $100/ea they're not a bad deal. - Alain
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#8. What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? - from Msebmwman@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:55:43 EST From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? All; I'm about ready to put some 96+ front strut hats (upper strut bearings) on my 1995 M3. If I switch the 96+ hats left to right and right to left and keep the arrows oriented the way they should be when the strut hats are in the correct orientation, how much negative camber will this get me if my springs are stock? If my springs are the LTW springs which are slightly lower by about 0.5 - 0.75 inches than stock, how much negative camber will this get me? Can or should I orient the arrows differently to get even more negative camber? If so, what are the downsides (screwed up caster? and what will that mean?). Thanks for your help, Marc 95M3 track dog
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#9. Re: [E36M3] What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? - from DocWyte
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Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 21:31:21 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? I got just about -2 degrees with stock springs and the '96 hats swapped side to side on my '95. You won't gain all that much more camber by dropping the car 1/2 an inch. Castor won't be ideal, but it's ok... -josh --- Msebmwman@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:55:43 EST > From: Msebmwman@aol.com > Subject: What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ > strut hats on a 1995?? > > All; > > I'm about ready to put some 96+ front strut hats > (upper strut bearings) on my > 1995 M3. If I switch the 96+ hats left to right and > right to left and keep > the arrows oriented the way they should be when the > strut hats are in the > correct orientation, how much negative camber will > this get me if my springs are > stock? > > If my springs are the LTW springs which are slightly > lower by about 0.5 - > 0.75 inches than stock, how much negative camber > will this get me? > > Can or should I orient the arrows differently to get > even more negative > camber? If so, what are the downsides (screwed up > caster? and what will that > mean?). > > Thanks for your help, > Marc > 95M3 track dog > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
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#10. Re: [E36M3] What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2004 09:56:13 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? Why not just rotate your stock 95 hats for more camber? I did this on my LTW and it worked great. Much easier to do than swaping sides with the 96+ hats IMO. You do lose some caster, but it is not that noticeable, car wanders a bit more at 100mph+. Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: <Msebmwman@aol.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 12:04 AM Subject: [E36M3] What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? > Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 23:55:43 EST > From: Msebmwman@aol.com > Subject: What neg camber do I get with switched 96+ strut hats on a 1995?? > > All; > > I'm about ready to put some 96+ front strut hats (upper strut bearings) on my > 1995 M3. If I switch the 96+ hats left to right and right to left and keep > the arrows oriented the way they should be when the strut hats are in the > correct orientation, how much negative camber will this get me if my springs are > stock? > > If my springs are the LTW springs which are slightly lower by about 0.5 - > 0.75 inches than stock, how much negative camber will this get me? > > Can or should I orient the arrows differently to get even more negative > camber? If so, what are the downsides (screwed up caster? and what will that > mean?). > > Thanks for your help, > Marc > 95M3 track dog > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >