E36M3 #3598

Wednesday, February 18, 2004 14:05:00

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#2. FS BBS RK w/toyo R1 - from bmw
#3. Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#4. RE: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from Nickerson, Joe
#5. RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? - from Michael Lawrence
#6. RE: [E36M3] Low Coolant on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#7. Coolant light - from eevans@planetc.com
#8. please unsubscribe - from Noah Weinstein
#9. Re: M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? - from Kevin Bishop
#10. E36 coupe lock woes (semi urgent) - from Larry T

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:38:45 -0500 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) Joe, Did you add any water/coolant to the radiator? I've learned the "low coolant level" sensor is very sensitive. If the water level drops just an ounce, it will go off. For whatever reason, it is very common to get a "low coolant level" check light in the winter time. Every year it happens to me. I add about 3 ounces of water and all is fine. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 ------------------------------ joe.nickerson@lmco.com writes: > Guys, I've have the "low coolant" come up on my OBC after I turn the car <SNIP> > Any ideas what I should check next? > Thanks > Joe

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#2. FS BBS RK w/toyo R1 - from bmw
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 07:49:53 -0800 (PST) From: bmw <m3lawdawg@yahoo.com> Subject: FS BBS RK w/toyo R1 I just sold my 95 m3 and have the following items left over. BBS RK 17 x 8 for e36 With Toyo R1's with three track days on them. THe wheels are in excellent shape, pics upon request. 1 set of new stock front brake pads. 1 set of new front and rear Axxis Ultimate pads asking $1000.00 for all __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:55:30 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) "Nickerson, Joe" <joe.nickerson@lmco.com> wrote: > > Guys, I've have the "low coolant" come up on my OBC after I turn > the car off for quite a while now. I decided to finally replace > the sensor. No problem ordered new sensor installed and yes I did > plug it back in. Drive to work today, turn off car, spectacular, > it there it is again. Any ideas what I should check next? Joe, To play the role of Cpt. Obvious, how is your coolant level? If it's low, the usual suspects are: {leaking t-stat housing/gaskets; old loosened disposable hose clamps/cracked hoses; cracked radiator neck; dying water pump; seeping heater core}. alex f

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from Nickerson, Joe
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:25:50 -0500 From: "Nickerson, Joe" <joe.nickerson@lmco.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) Alex, unfortunately the level is right on the max line, or at least I think it is. Its right to the black line on the back of the overflow tank, if you took off the lid to add more coolant the water level is about two inches down. Thanks, Joe -----Original Message----- From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com [mailto:alex.fadeev@verizon.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:05 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 09:55:30 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) "Nickerson, Joe" <joe.nickerson@lmco.com> wrote: > > Guys, I've have the "low coolant" come up on my OBC after I turn > the car off for quite a while now. I decided to finally replace > the sensor. No problem ordered new sensor installed and yes I did > plug it back in. Drive to work today, turn off car, spectacular, > it there it is again. Any ideas what I should check next? Joe, To play the role of Cpt. Obvious, how is your coolant level? If it's low, the usual suspects are: {leaking t-stat housing/gaskets; old loosened disposable hose clamps/cracked hoses; cracked radiator neck; dying water pump; seeping heater core}. alex f ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? - from Michael Lawrence
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 12:28:08 -0500 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? -> -----Original Message----- -> From: Rob [mailto:speedmaster@telus.net] -> Subject: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? -> Has anyone had the opportunity to run against a well driven -> EVO8 or STi at the track or Auto X in an E36 M3? No, but I did go out to watch my friend Bob and Patty Tunnel at a SCCA autocross here in Atlanta this past weekend. They looked like they had the field covered in their 95 M3. There were several Sti and Evo's there. O yea, it was raining TOO!!! Course had running water in some spots. I watched Patty run with 2 Stis, not in her class but running in the same group. She was doing .32's and they were doing .36-.38's Again, no idea on driving skill etc. From what I noticed, the AWD cars just plowed straight, would not turn and the wet on made it worse for them. I thought there would have been a huge advantage, didn't see it. Also, this was a solo 2 or something. They had a Christmas tree light start and 2 identical courses, so they were racing each other. I found it odd that a Z06, in the rain, could out drag the Sti and EVO's to the first corner. -> On paper the cars are close in terms of power/weight, but -> the ricers have AWD to put down the power, 10 years of -> technical advances, real brakes and are insanely easy to get -> ~350hp from! Well just my thoughts are as follows. AWD? Hmm, I never had much of a problem getting the power down in my M3 at the track when I was racing my LTW. The E36 hooks up quite nicely. 10yrs of technical advances? Hmmm, there should be some advances, but I doubt there are many. Nothing really comes to mind as an advantage the other cars have besides AWD and ability to control it. Brakes? My fake brakes have done quite well on my M3. Glad I didn't know they were fake when I passed 2 911 cup cars under braking at turn 17 Sebring. If I had, probably would have shit my pants knowing I didn't have real brakes while I was passing at 140mph, lol. Granted the M3 doesn't have Brembo shembo brakes, but I have raced M3s with 1. stock brakes, 2. stoptech brakes, 3.Movit/big red's brakes. Guess what, they all stop the SAME!!!!!! I don't know how many times I have to say it, but the stock brakes(with proper track pads) can lock up the wheels just fine at any speed. They work fine for racing, which is the toughest duty they will see and many SUCCESSFUL club racers have won national championships on stock brakes. I know a few Prepared M3s still using stock brakes when big brakes are allowed. Out of the many races I have run, never experienced brake fad, lack of braking power etc. The benefit of big brakes were the extended life of the pads/rotors/wheel bearings etc. Also, with big brakes, the control seems to be better. But beyond that, not as much difference as some claim. At least in my experience racing with them. Mike I actually like the looks of the EVO and gets excited about 300+hp

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Low Coolant on OBD (after replaced sensor) - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 11:32:32 -0600 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Low Coolant on OBD (after replaced sensor) "Nickerson, Joe" <joe.nickerson@lmco.com> wrote: > > Alex, unfortunately the level is right on the max line, or at > least I think it is. Its right to the black line on the back > of the overflow tank, if you took off the lid to add more coolant > the water level is about two inches down. Joe, If you are certain that you have plenty of coolant and still get false level alerts with a new sensor, I would suspect the wiring. Most likely the sensor is a simple open loop circuit. When the level drops below a certain level, the circuit opens throwing the OBD message. Have you checked the sensor wiring for any abrasions? Run continuity checks between the sensor plug and wherever the wiring leads? Is the plug firmly attached to the sensor? How about the wires coming out of the plug? HTH, alex f

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#7. Coolant light - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:08:37 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: Coolant light Joe, I don't want to state the obvious here, but I've had that light come on numerous times and I just add a little water/coolant to the resorvoir and the light has always gone out and stayed off. Do that even if it looks like it's full. I can't explain it, but it's worked every time. HTH Evan '88 M3 '89 535iA '93 318iA For Sale! '95 M3 For Sale! '99 M3 Could be for Sale ;-)! Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:24:39 -0500 From: "Nickerson, Joe" <joe.nickerson@lmco.com> Subject: Low Coolent on OBD (after replaced sensor) Guys, I've have the "low coolant" come up on my OBC after I turn the car off for quite a while now. I decided to finally replace the sensor. No problem ordered new sensor installed and yes I did plug it back in. Drive to work today, turn off car, spectacular, it there it is again. Any ideas what I should check next? Thanks Joe

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#8. please unsubscribe - from Noah Weinstein
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 10:58:36 -0800 (PST) From: Noah Weinstein <nzw212@yahoo.com> Subject: please unsubscribe unsubscribe thanks --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want.

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#9. Re: M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? - from Kevin Bishop
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 13:30:17 -0600 From: Kevin Bishop <kbishop371@comcast.net> Subject: Re: M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? I can't give any hard data, but I there was an EVO in my group at one of the DE's I did last year. Neither of us were what I would call seriously experienced -- this was the blue group -- but that was one fast car. On the straights it could pull away from maybe all but well driven E46 M3's and odd 996 Porsche. Although it wasn't necessarily driven very smoothly, I'd say it turned some of the faster (if not fastest) laps in the group. On the upside, the driver managed to seriously cook the rotors on all four wheels. By the middle of Sunday they all exhibited this dark grey / silver pattern that lined up with where the vanes were between each side of the disk. I'd chalk that up to lack of experience as much as anything. I may not have been able to keep up, but at least I didn't need to replace anything at the end of the event! Kevin On Feb 18, 2004, at 9:44 AM, E36M3 wrote: > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 21:22:50 -0700 > From: "Rob" <speedmaster@telus.net> > Subject: M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? > > Has anyone had the opportunity to run against a well driven EVO8 or > STi at the track or Auto X in an E36 M3? I have encountered a few STis > at local events, but they were only being driving @ 7/10th so it was > impossible to evaluate whether or not they are a serious threat to my > E36 ;) > > On paper the cars are close in terms of power/weight, but the ricers > have AWD to put down the power, 10 years of technical advances, real > brakes and are insanely easy to get ~350hp from! > > Thoughts?

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#10. E36 coupe lock woes (semi urgent) - from Larry T
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:44:58 -0500 From: "Larry T" <ltrainsvt@hotmail.com> Subject: E36 coupe lock woes (semi urgent) First off, sorry for the cross-post, but this is kinda urgent. Background: Since I got this car (98 m3/2), the key will not lock/unlock the car from the passenger side door, but the door will unlock/lock if you use the central locking button. The door opens fine with the inside/outside handles. I did some asking about this, and it was decided that it was the door lock actuator. Today: I was bored, so I decided I would take apart the door, to see what I'm dealing with. I'm planning on installing new speakers, and I ordered a new door lock actuator, so it had to be done anyway. I get in there, and I can see the lock cylinder, I can see where the rod from the inside door handle goes to the actuator(I guess?), and I can see what I think is the actuator. Here's my problem. On the lock cylinder, there is a rod, just dangling there. Needless to say, I do not think this is how it should be. The rod is attached to the cylinder, and it moves when I turn the lock with the key. It seems to me that this rod should connect to the actuator, to tell the car to lock and unlock the car, but I cannot find where it attaches to. If anyone can shed some info, I would greatly appreciate it. I'd like to get it done today before I lose some light. Pictures can be provided, if they are necessary. Thanks! Larry _________________________________________________________________ Get fast, reliable access with MSN 9 Dial-up. Click here for Special Offer! http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200361ave/direct/01/

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