E36M3 #3600

Thursday, February 19, 2004 09:05:45

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Power steering noise - from Jason Knight
#2. Re: Short shift options - from Blair Hedges
#3. Re: Help Car won't warm up - from MFWM3@aol.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? - from Alain van der Heide
#5. Re: [E36M3] Short Shift options - from marc@plante.com
#6. Re: E46 M3 Front Rotors - from Neil Maller
#7. Re: [E36M3] Underdrive pulleys? - from Robert Liu
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Alternater Drive pulley, suggestions please - from m.feldpusch@comcast.net
#9. Re: [E36M3] Short shift options - from Jay W. Hudson
#10. E46 M3 Front Rotors - from Dorffer, Rich

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Power steering noise - from Jason Knight
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:10:57 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Power steering noise I've been too busy putting the wife's race car back together to think about the M3. Plus I get into a groove driving the 2002 everyday - I'm sure that if I had to drive our daily driver Camaro I'd get the M3 repaired much more quickly. Race car got packed into the trailer about half an hour ago, maybe I'll drive the M3 to the shop tomorrow and see what the mechanic says. I'll respond when I have some tangible data. Jason --- david tow <david_tow@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 16:06:48 -0800 > From: "david tow" <david_tow@hotmail.com> > Subject: Power steering noise > > Jason, > > I've had some similar experience with my 95 M3 > intermittantly and am very > curious about what you've found out from the digest. > Please keep me posted > on your latest findings. > > Thanks a lot in advance! > > David > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Jason Knight wrote: > > Last week while driving I lost my power steering. > Upon arriving home I found that the rubber to metal > connection on the reservoir to rack line was > separated. I replaced the line, added fluid, bled > the > system and added more, and power steering returned. > > However, there is now a groaning noise that occurs > when I turn the wheel at low speeds. If I'm going > over 20 or so the noise is not present. I suppose > that I may have fried my pump or my rack. Does > anyone > have experience with this and know what a dead or > dying rack or pump sounds like? I would think that > if > either was truly gone I would not have power > steering, > which I definitely have. > > Thanks for any and all input. Driving the 2002 is > fun > but I'm ready to drive the M3 again. > > Jason > > _________________________________________________________________ > Stay informed on Election 2004 and the race to Super > Tuesday. > http://special.msn.com/msn/election2004.armx > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#2. Re: Short shift options - from Blair Hedges
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 19:33:22 -0800 (PST) From: Blair Hedges <bchedges@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Short shift options I am very pleased with the combination of UUC Evo3 short shifter + Redline MTL Tranny fluid. Highly recommend the UUC tranny mounts w/ TMEs too. Blair 1997 M3/4 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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#3. Re: Help Car won't warm up - from MFWM3@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 22:48:16 EST From: MFWM3@aol.com Subject: Re: Help Car won't warm up I know I am commenting late in the game but I have not had a chance to chatch up on my reading for a while. I have a 98 4 door that I bought used December 98. The temp guage never rose above the quarter mark and certainly never reached the center of the guage. I never noticed that it did not produce much heat but we don't usually have very cold winters here. The car ran beautifully. This year I had an intermittant check engine light that the dealer could not track down. Ultimately they replaced the front two oxygen sensors which did not cure the problem and then replaced the rear two sensors (thats right the 98s have 4 sensors) which also did not cure the problem. I returned to the dealer (to replace a frozen caliper this time) on a very cold day and the service manager asked in passing if the car warmed up properly. I told him that it was the same as always with the needle at the quarter mark. He said that if the car was not adequately warming up, it would ultimately trash the oxygen sensors (running rich?) which would trigger the check engine light. He replaced the thermostat with the right one, the check engine issue cleared up and the needle is in the center of the guage. At $250 per sensor, replacing 4 sensor is a painful process. While I suspect the dealer was throwing parts at a problem they could not diagnois, if the final analysis was correct it is ultimately important to make sure you have the right thermostat in your car. Michael Walsh Cosmos Black/Black 98 M3/4

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#4. Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:49:46 -0600 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? A friend of mine had an Evo-8, which I got to ride in, but not drive. Those things ride *harsh*. My M3 has Koni coil-overs in front and d/a shocks, and I'm running about double the stock spring rates. From a ride comfort perspecitive, the Evo is to my M3 as my M3 is to my close-to-stock E30 325is. In fact, the guy wound up selling car 'cause after a 3 hour drive his back hurt so much he could barely get out. I'll note that he also thought the seats had far too much lumbar, which didn't help matters. OTOH, when I was riding in it, it felt go-kart immediate. It also has serious punch, and those brakes can make your eyeballs bounce off the inside of the windshield. There was one out at the open track days we had over Xmas week and it was a rolling chicane for me, but I suspect that was mostly because the guy driving it told me he didn't like to hear his tires squeal in turns. - Alain (a squealing tire is a happy tire) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Lombard" <jrlombard@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 14:33:41 -0800 (PST) > From: Jason Lombard <jrlombard@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M3 vs. EVO8 and STi @ the track? > > I've driven a good friend's STI at about 9/10th's and > it's easily one of the faster cars that I've > experienced (which includes quite a few high pedigree > German and Italian machines). However, it's very noisy > inside and VERY stiff. Perfect for autocross (which is > what he uses it for) but not so ideal for commuting > (which is also what he uses it for).

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Short Shift options - from marc@plante.com
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:28:43 -0500 (EST) From: marc@plante.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Short Shift options Remember that the original E36 short shift kit was derived from a Z3 shifter. If you're not happy with the aftermarket solutions, there's not much more that can be done. Between Ben, Rob AC Schnitzer, Ron Stygar, and other people, there have been thousand of hours invested in measuring, aligning, counterbalancing the shift mechanisms to optimize the throw length and effort combined. There will be different opinions regarding who's built the best mousetrap, but I'd submit that pretty much the best available alternatives are already out there. BTW, after you've driven a short shift kit for about a week, the stock shifter feels kind of loose and "greasy" I switch back and forth between the two options on a regular basis since my wife's M3 car still stock. Marc Plante E36 325i, 219k Gen 1 UUC/BLSS kit [before teh spin-off] Vienna, VA Marc Plante marc@plante.com

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#6. Re: E46 M3 Front Rotors - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 08:32:40 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: E46 M3 Front Rotors on 2/18/04 9:14 PM, <jbjerke@charter.net> wrote: > I'm buying an E36 M3 race car with the BBK that utilizes the E46 M3 rotor with > a 4-pot Brembo caliper. Looking on line I find several vendors carrying cross > drilled E46 M3 rotors. I've dealt with swiss cheese rotors before and do not > want to go back! Don't they come from the factory with solid rotors? > Where's a good place to purchase a spare set? Euro E46 M3s have swiss cheese rotors, the US model doesn't. Neil 96 M3

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Underdrive pulleys? - from Robert Liu
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 05:41:24 -0800 (PST) From: Robert Liu <bob_a_liu@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Underdrive pulleys? Shel, I have tested the UUC UDP on my car on my shop's Mustang MD-250. The test was before/after on the same day. I did two runs before and two runs after, which were consistent. This first graph has hp/tq curves for before and after. http://www.p1auto.com/bob/dynopics/M3_UDP.JPG The second graph shows the difference between the two runs. You can see that although the gains are small, they are throughout the entire rpm range. http://www.p1auto.com/bob/dynopics/M3_UDP_delta.JPG I am running in the North Carolina with the fan delete mod, and have had no issues with overheating. Bob --- Shelhart2@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:30:22 EST > From: Shelhart2@aol.com > Subject: Underdrive pulleys? > > O.k. it's mainstream... I need to replace the belts > and would be willing to > spend a couple hundred bucks to get 5+ HP gain and > for the therepeudic value > of a 2 hour "tangible" project. UUC, Rogue, > Victory, etc. Who has the best > product for the price? Should I be concerned about > battery life, etc. > > I'm assuming the engineers at BMW know a bit more > than I and I don't want to > sacrifice the life of other components or proper > cooling for 5 HP and a > weekend project. > > Basically, I want to tinker and need affirmation > whether it makes sense and > who to go with. > > Shel > 1998 M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== ------------------------------------------------------------ Robert Liu bob_a_liu@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: Alternater Drive pulley, suggestions please - from m.feldpusch@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 14:26:44 +0000 From: m.feldpusch@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Alternater Drive pulley, suggestions please Thanks for the information that everyone provided concerning my issue. Michael > Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 17:52:15 -0500 > From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> > Subject: Re: Alternater Drive pulley, suggestions please > > on 2/17/04 5:34 PM, "Michael Feldpusch" <m.feldpusch@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > I'm in the process of installing UUC underdrive pulleys. The power steering > > and water pump pulleys were a piece of cake. When I got to the alternator > > pulley, i'm having a hard time getting the pulley nut loosened. I have a > > 24mm socket with an 18" breaker bar. It seems when I try to loosed the nut, > > the alternator rotates with the direction of my force. > > Never done it myself, but these guys have a special tool for it for $25: > http://victoryproductdesign.com/tools_main.htm > > Neil > 96 M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > Taylor Autosport http://www.taylorautosport.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > BMW M3 Specialties http://www.jt-designs.com > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Short shift options - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 06:31:57 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Short shift options Ron Stygar, a list member, modifies and sells a short shifter for the E36. He uses all BMW parts. I have one in my car and am very happy with it. Much less $$$$ than aftermarket options. I believe you can reach him at ronstygar@aol.com Or, you can go to unofficialbmw.com to check out his page. Thansk again, Ron. Jay > Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:47:33 -0500 > From: eevans@planetc.com > Subject: Short shift options > > There's been a lot of discussion about using the Z8 shifter on E30 M3s as > an alternative shifter. Does anyone know or have experience w/ another > shifter for the E36 M3? I want to retain that silky smooth shifting feel, > but a shorter throw would be a welcome improvement. I haven't had much > satisfaction w/ the commercial short shift applications available. It > sounds like the Z8 shifter might be a great compromise if it fits and is > actually a shorter throw. What say you? > > Evan > '88 M3 > '89 535iA > '93 318iA For Sale! > '95 M3 For Sale! > '99 M3 Could be for Sale ;-)!

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#10. E46 M3 Front Rotors - from Dorffer, Rich
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Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2004 09:50:22 -0500 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: E46 M3 Front Rotors > Where's a good place to purchase a spare set? How about a dealer? Or, one of the many after-market parts suppliers like: www.bimmerparts.com etc. Regards, Rich

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