E36M3 #3633

Friday, March 05, 2004 07:51:28

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from DeBuhr
#2. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from Chris Teague
#3. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from jason
#5. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#6. Rolling Circumference Calculations ... - from The Buch
#7. RE: [E36M3] Rolling Circumference Calculations ... - from Bob Sutterfield
#8. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from R. Bruce Shafer
#9. Re: [E36M3] Rolling Circumference Calculations ... - from Jay W. Hudson
#10. Master cylinder bleeding - from Chip Mitchell

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from DeBuhr
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:39:09 -0800 From: "DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches They don't cover torque wrenches. However, I think it is about $20-30 to have them send it in. Just call Sears and ask them. Should be able to tell you over the phone. Dave 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Mel Silva [mailto:melsilva@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 6:31 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:23:20 -0600 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches Aren't Craftsman tool guaranteed for life or is there a hidden torque wrench clause? Mel -----Original Message----- From: R. Bruce Shafer [mailto:mzealot@bellsouth.net] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:11 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:59:38 -0500 From: "R. Bruce Shafer" <mzealot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Torque Wrenches Looks like my Craftsmen Torque wrench will need to be either rebuilt and calibrated or tossed out (the calibrated handle came off). Over the years, I've seen some posts about other brands, rebuilding, and re-calibration of torque wrenches. Craftsman replacements are between $70 and $100, not on sale. Does anybody know what is costs to get a TW rebuilt? Any recommendations for a service center to do a rebuild? Any other brands to consider? (I don't know if I use a TW enough to justify Snap-on or other top shelf manufacturers). Does anybody have any opinions or comments on this? Thanks. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from Chris Teague
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 19:39:18 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches Mel, There's a not so hidden torque wrench clause. ;-) IIRC it's only like a 90 day warranty for torque wrenches. Chris ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:23:20 -0600 > From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches > > Aren't Craftsman tool guaranteed for life or is there a hidden torque wrench > clause? > > Mel

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:06:31 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches debuhr@comcast.net writes: > They don't cover torque wrenches. However, I think it is about > $20-30 to have them send it in. Just call Sears and ask them. > Should be able to tell you over the phone. >

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from jason
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Date: 04 Mar 2004 20:26:27 -0800 From: jason <jason@doomba.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches its true that torque wrenches have a crappy warrantee, but i've always taken it in and the guy behind the counter looks to see if it says craftsman on it, and says, ok, its a hand tool and it says craftsman, so go get another off the shelf and i'll to the exchange. :) ymmvbypgl (ymmv but youl probably get lucky :)

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 23:32:16 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches debuhr@comcast.net writes: > They don't cover torque wrenches. However, I think it is about > $20-30 to have them send it in. Just call Sears and ask them. > Should be able to tell you over the phone. > [Sorry, hit the send key by mistake.] Bruce, As others have said, there is no lifetime warranty on Craftsman torque wrenches. [Ask me how I know] And unless your Craftsman torque wrench is less a year or two old, Sears probably can't even rebuild it. And even if they still have parts to rebuild it, the cost would exceed the price of a new one. Shipping alone was something like $20 and minimum labor charge was $45 or something. Truly a disposable torque wrench. I looked at the Snap-On torque wrenches. The one that would be practical for wheel lug nuts is $242. I ultimately bought another disposable Craftsman wrench. Lowell Seaton '95 M3/2

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#6. Rolling Circumference Calculations ... - from The Buch
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Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:09:53 -0800 From: The Buch <the_buch@telus.net> Subject: Rolling Circumference Calculations ... Can one of you engineering or physics types tell me if I have the math right (I am trying to choose tire sizes for 18s to get close to stock rolling circumferences): Tire Selection - Rolling Circumference Calculator Tread (mm) Side (mm) Wheel (") Circ (mm) Rel to F(%) Rel to R(%) 225 45 17 1993 100.0% 101.0% 245 40 17 1972 99.0% 100.0% 225 40 18 2002 100.5% 101.5% 235 40 18 2027 101.7% 102.8% 235 35 18 1953 98.0% 99.0% 245 35 18 1975 99.1% 100.1% 255 35 18 1997 100.2% 101.3% Thanks, Doug

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Rolling Circumference Calculations ... - from Bob Sutterfield
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 22:22:08 -0700 From: "Bob Sutterfield" <Bob@XC.Org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Rolling Circumference Calculations ... I understand (really I do!) the fascination with getting the math right yourself, but I'm basically lazy, so I'll use this excellent tool instead: http://amsoft.ru/tiresize

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches - from R. Bruce Shafer
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Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 21:39:46 -0500 From: "R. Bruce Shafer" <mzealot@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches I was hoping for a lifetime guarantee, but the TW's only have a one year warranty. I asked them to prove it and they did. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> To: "R. Bruce Shafer" <mzealot@bellsouth.net>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 9:23 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches > Aren't Craftsman tool guaranteed for life or is there a hidden torque wrench > clause? > > Mel > > -----Original Message----- > From: R. Bruce Shafer [mailto:mzealot@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 8:11 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Torque Wrenches > > > Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:59:38 -0500 > From: "R. Bruce Shafer" <mzealot@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Torque Wrenches > > Looks like my Craftsmen Torque wrench will need to be either rebuilt and > calibrated or tossed out (the calibrated handle came off). Over the years, > I've seen some posts about other brands, rebuilding, and re-calibration of > torque wrenches. > > Craftsman replacements are between $70 and $100, not on sale. Does anybody > know what is costs to get a TW rebuilt? Any recommendations for a service > center to do a rebuild? Any other brands to consider? (I don't know if I > use a TW enough to justify Snap-on or other top shelf manufacturers). > > Does anybody have any opinions or comments on this? > > Thanks. > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > >

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Rolling Circumference Calculations ... - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 05:26:42 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rolling Circumference Calculations ... Doug- Don't know about the math, but those are the appropriate 18" sizes. I've run 225/40, 235/40 (a little tall) and 255/35 on the front. I've always used 255/35s on the rear. I doubt you'll find 235/40s. 245/35s are rare. Only a couple of tire companies offer them. Toyo T1-S is one of them though. Jay > Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 21:09:53 -0800 > From: The Buch <the_buch@telus.net> > Subject: Rolling Circumference Calculations ... > > Can one of you engineering or physics types tell me if I have the math > right (I am trying to choose tire sizes for 18s to get close to stock > rolling circumferences): > > Tire Selection - Rolling Circumference Calculator > > Tread (mm) Side (mm) Wheel (") Circ (mm) Rel to F(%) Rel to R(%) > 225 45 17 1993 100.0% 101.0% > 245 40 17 1972 99.0% 100.0% > > 225 40 18 2002 100.5% 101.5% > 235 40 18 2027 101.7% 102.8% > 235 35 18 1953 98.0% 99.0% > 245 35 18 1975 99.1% 100.1% > 255 35 18 1997 100.2% 101.3% > > > Thanks, Doug

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#10. Master cylinder bleeding - from Chip Mitchell
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Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 08:42:04 -0500 From: Chip Mitchell <chipm@uga.edu> Subject: Master cylinder bleeding Good morning list, I'm preparing to do a full brake job, including caliper rebuilds since bleeding has not helped a soft pedal problem, but I ran across the following in a manual for a different car. What are your thoughts? "If the master cylinder is known or suspected to have air in the bore, it must be bled BEFORE any of the wheel cylinders or calipers. To bleed the master cylinder, loosen the upper secondary left front outlet fitting approximately 3/4 of a turn. Have an assistant depress the brake pedal slowly through its full travel. Close the outlet fitting and let the pedal return slowly to the fully released position. Wait 5 seconds and then repeat the operation until all air bubbles disappear." I'd never heard of bleeding the MC separate from the calipers - is the normal/useful? Thanks, Chip

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