E36M3 #3661

Wednesday, March 24, 2004 22:41:00

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#1. Re: SS brake lines (again) - from Fernando Mujica
#2. Shipping bumpers - from eevans@planetc.com
#3. Re: octane booster - from Neil Maller
#4. RE: [E36M3] Ok, this is a little weird... - from DocWyte
#5. Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber - from Bob Dorchester
#6. Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber - from Robert Chay
#7. Need Ground Control RSMs in SF Bay Area Wednesday or Thursday at latest - from Eric Fesler
#8. BMW Factory parts retail prices and lookup - from Dave Spragg
#9. RE: [E36M3] octane booster - from Dave Spragg
#10. RE: [E36M3] Shipping bumpers - from Dave Spragg

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#1. Re: SS brake lines (again) - from Fernando Mujica
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 18:33:02 -0600 From: Fernando Mujica <fmujica@mac.com> Subject: Re: SS brake lines (again) I have the Fischer lines from Ultimate Garage (http://www.ultimategarage.com/brakemsc.html). IMO, fit and quality are outstanding. No rubbing anywhere for me. I might do the heat-shrink cover next time. Fernando '97 M3/4 On Mar 24, 2004, at 9:00 AM, E36M3 wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 06:44:43 -0800 (PST) > From: Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> > Subject: SS brake lines (again) > > Hello all, > > Sorry to open this up again, but I searched through my > archives and I can't find the thread(s) I was looking > for. I'd like to replace the SS brake lines on my M3 > with a fresh set and I was trying to find the info on > some of the popular brands people have used. I > currently have Goodrich lines, which currently have > about two winters of salt, grit and grime on them, in > addition they are a touch too long (IMHO) on both > front and rear - I had one fail at Nelson Ledges > because it rubbed on the rear control arm. The fronts > also rub a bit on the inside fender, so I zip-tied > split rubber hoses around them to prevent a future > occurance. However, what made me want to change them > is the fact that the rubber washer-thingy that > protects the line as it goes through the strut > mount/clamp is ruined on both sides and the line is > now rubbing metal-to-metal on the strut clamp - not > good. So overall, I'd like to replace them before I > go to Sebring in April and risk wadding up the car. I > recall that StopTech (I think?) was a brand of SS > lines that come with a coating of some sort over the > line to protect the line from grit and stuff. Are > they DOT approved? What other lines out there have > people had success with? Fisher? I did find Neil's > post on heat-shrinking a covering over the lines, so > that's an option. I'm not against going with Goodrich > again, as I know where they risk rubbing and can > address it before I put them on the car with the > heat-shrink coating and strategically placed rubber > tubing. Again, sorry to post this question once more, > but I can't find the info in my E36M3 list archive > (user error, I think :) > > Thanks! > > Vern Anderson

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#2. Shipping bumpers - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:16:30 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: Shipping bumpers Hi, Any suggestions on how to ship a bumper as cheaply as possible, time is not a factor? FedEx, UPS, USPS, etc.? Surely there's a more economic way to ship a bulky item like this. I have quotes from the majors around $70-$90. TIA Evan

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#3. Re: octane booster - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:29:38 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: octane booster on 3/24/04 6:30 PM, Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > I was under the impression from JimC that the truly useful stuff is either > illegal to own or hard to get and the other over the counter stuff is crap. So true, so true. Oh - you meant octane booster? Neil 96 M3

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Ok, this is a little weird... - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 17:43:45 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Ok, this is a little weird... Until I have a chance to get the car on the scales and corner weigh it, all I have is my tape measure. Well that and my little "test" road course. :-) -josh --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@fotofab.com> wrote: > I am not sure if this is your problem, just my SWAG > but our cars do not > sit level in their stock configuration. The left > side always sits a > little higher than the right so if you set the ride > height so that it is > even all around with the car unloaded, it would not > be "correct". > > Regards > > Jamie Howton > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html

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#5. Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber - from Bob Dorchester
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:54:50 -0600 From: "Bob Dorchester" <rjdorche@concentric.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber Another set of data........ I had K-Macs and H&R Sport springs with Bilstein Sport struts for several years and was able to get -2.7 deg camber. Not bad, but the K-Mac problem is that you lose caster in the process. IIRC, the caster was between 3-4 deg; I believe 6-7 deg is stock (and desired for stability and feel). I don't recall the lowering other than it was at least 1". I have just changed suspensions again and will soon find out whether the TCK D/A coilover setup with TCK camber/caster plates is a noticeable handling improvement. For the $$, it had better be! Bob Dorchester 95 M3 > Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 16:21:03 -0500 > From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber > > I think those markings are for a stock suspended car. When you lower an M3, > you gain neg camber. I have bilsteins, eibachs (lowers front 1") and Kmacs > and I can get a little over 3.7 deg neg camber. > > -Bobby > '98 M3 > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <alex.fadeev@verizon.com> > > > > Marc, > > I have TC Kline's TrackLine kit springs (two H&R Sport and two Race > > springs) on my '95 M3. > > The max even negative camber is -2.2. One of the sides (forgot which one) > > could go -.4 higher, but I wanted to keep them even. > > > > HTH, > > alex f

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#6. Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 22:08:56 -0500 From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] KMACs and achievable negative camber I have the early version for the e36 chassis. They came out with a newer version in '00 or '01. Also, I've seen a few Kmacs not installed properly (mine wasn't either). I had a problem with not enough caster but after turning the plates, I got back most of the caster I lost. I think my caster is 5 or 6 deg now. -Bobby ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Dorchester" <rjdorche@concentric.net> > > Another set of data........ > > I had K-Macs and H&R Sport springs with Bilstein Sport struts for several > years and was able to get -2.7 deg camber. Not bad, but the K-Mac problem > is that you lose caster in the process. IIRC, the caster was between 3-4 > deg; I believe 6-7 deg is stock (and desired for stability and feel). I > don't recall the lowering other than it was at least 1". > > I have just changed suspensions again and will soon find out whether the TCK > D/A coilover setup with TCK camber/caster plates is a noticeable handling > improvement. For the $$, it had better be! > > Bob Dorchester > 95 M3 >

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#7. Need Ground Control RSMs in SF Bay Area Wednesday or Thursday at latest - from Eric Fesler
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 19:19:13 -0800 From: Eric Fesler <eric@fesler.org> Subject: Need Ground Control RSMs in SF Bay Area Wednesday or Thursday at latest Managed to get a pair of RSMs from Rennwerks. Thanks for the offers. Cheers, E

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#8. BMW Factory parts retail prices and lookup - from Dave Spragg
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:29:58 -0500 From: "Dave Spragg" <davelist@spragg.com> Subject: BMW Factory parts retail prices and lookup Is this functionality on the web and available to the unwashed masses... More specifically, me? I have a bunch of parts I want to look up and get ball park prices on for rebuilding the head on my engine (money shifted like a moron in a race... I know.. I know...). Web links appreciated. I am not on this list much these days with the street car gone and the snow just melting from my favorite tracks. I see Jimmy Powell out there though and just want him to know that those 18" tires along with huge aftermarket brakes won't stop a car any faster than stock!! :) How do I know? Oh my cousin's brother's neighbor tried it and said it didn't change. LOL!! Cheers, Dave Spragg dave@spragg.com 99 M3 street ( sold :( ) 92 318is #330 IP (95 M3 engine and suspension) 03 Toyota Tundra

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#9. RE: [E36M3] octane booster - from Dave Spragg
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:35:34 -0500 From: "Dave Spragg" <davelist@spragg.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] octane booster Your going to need a awful lot of those little bottles to bump up the octane on a 14 gallon tank of gas. Not that I have done this.... But in a turbo car that is running mad boost you can stop the pining with large amounts of toluene (not sure on spelling). If you search around the WRX and Evo board you will likely find some info but figure out the mixture yourself using simple math and how much gas you are starting with. Now... This substance may be controlled or illegal, I really don't know and in the land of MIT who really ever cared. ;) In my imaginary example a car with 8.5:1 compression ran 21 psi boost quite happily and went stonkin fast. I mention this because I suspect that if you can buy it easily it's probably an order of magnitude cheaper than those silly little bottles. Dave Spragg dave@spragg.com 99 M3 street ( sold :( ) 92 318is #330 IP (95 M3 engine and suspension) 03 Toyota Tundra -----Original Message----- From: Dimitris Cobopoulos [mailto:jimcob@omnis-ellas.gr] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 4:10 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] octane booster Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 11:07:01 +0200 From: "Dimitris Cobopoulos" <jimcob@omnis-ellas.gr> Subject: octane booster Hi ! Does anybody uses octane booster to increase octane to 100+ ? Can you please forward me your impressions, and all the relevant information, including brands etc. Thank you in advance. Dimitris

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Shipping bumpers - from Dave Spragg
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Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 23:38:57 -0500 From: "Dave Spragg" <davelist@spragg.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shipping bumpers Probably not. In my experience even if you don't care if it takes 4 weeks to get there the freight folks are way expensive compared to FedEx and such unless you shipping a LOT of something. If anyone know different I would love the info too. I tried to ship some seats from Boston to Atlanta and they wanted like $550-600 if I strapped them to a pallet and had them ready at a loading doc. Going for a little list-karma this evening... Don't ever buy a Nespresso D300 unless you like working on code, cars, whatever all night long. :) Dave Spragg dave@spragg.com 99 M3 street ( sold :( ) 92 318is #330 IP (95 M3 engine and suspension) 03 Toyota Tundra -----Original Message----- From: eevans@planetc.com [mailto:eevans@planetc.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2004 8:20 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Shipping bumpers Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2004 20:16:30 -0500 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: Shipping bumpers Hi, Any suggestions on how to ship a bumper as cheaply as possible, time is not a factor? FedEx, UPS, USPS, etc.? Surely there's a more economic way to ship a bulky item like this. I have quotes from the majors around $70-$90. TIA Evan

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