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#1. RE: [E36M3] 97 M3 Sedan Suspension R&R - from Dave Arnold
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:29:00 -0500 From: "Dave Arnold" <air2daa@insightbb.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 97 M3 Sedan Suspension R&R I too am looking at freshening up my suspension, especially since I'm having some vibration coming from the rear of the car. The vibration is slight and comes and goes. It's not related to tire balance. The car is a daily driver and has 116k miles, H&R racing springs and Koni's. I'm figuring the rear trailing arm bushings need to be replaced. I also heard some knocking from the rear, and on investigating, it seems the right rear shock is loose, like the top bolt need to be tightened. When you rock the car from side to side, there is play and it knocks. So here are my questions: Does anyone have a good write up on how to change the rear trailing arm bushings? If I go with the urethane bushings from someplace like BMP, can I just drop the front of the trailing arm, cut out the old bushing and use the split bushing to put in place, then bolt it all back together? I realize I'll have to get a four wheel alignment when I'm done. Is there a better place to buy these bushings? While I'm replacing bushings, what about the rear subframe mounts? How difficult a job is it to replace these bushings with the split design urethane ones? Finally, since I'm getting an alignment and working on the rear end anyway, I'm thinking of replacing the rear lower control arms with the adjustable ones from BMP. What is the general consensus of this? Is there a better source? Is it necessary? The car is a daily driver that sees occasional autocross and a few driving events a year. TIA, Dave A 95 ///M3 "HIOFCR" -----Original Message----- From: Mark Greer [mailto:mark.greer@excite.com] Sent: Sunday, March 28, 2004 8:00 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] 97 M3 Sedan Suspension R&R Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 19:58:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> Subject: 97 M3 Sedan Suspension R&R I'm preparing a shopping list of parts to do the following work: Control arms & bushings Trailing arm bushings Rear brakes & rotors Flex disk Coolant Hoses Microfilter I did the struts, shocks, belts and front brakes last fall. Has anyone developed a list of all the parts/fasteners/bushing required to freshen up a suspension? This is a once-per-100k-mile service, so I want to be complete. So far I'm considering: Front control arms (come w/ bushings installed, or just ball joints?) Control arm bushings (if not supplied w/ control arms) Trailing arm bushings (more than one?, what about ball joints?) Flex disk (what about u-joints? I hear these are not easily replaced) Thanks, Mark '97 M3 Sedan _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Re: [E36M3] 97 M3 Sedan Suspension R&R - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:50:14 EST From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 97 M3 Sedan Suspension R&R air2daa@insightbb.com writes: > Finally, since I'm getting an alignment and working on the rear end > anyway, I'm thinking of replacing the rear lower control arms with the > adjustable ones from BMP. What is the general consensus of this? Is > there a better source? Is it necessary? > I have long eyed the BMP adjustable rear control arms but at $330, I have hesitated. I think what most club racers do is take the stock lower control arms and weld a 1/8 plate steel across the open sides to make it a solid box. Check out the Turner Motorsport web site. Look for "TMS camber arm reinforcement kit." Price is $35. http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/show_category.asp?txtsearchParamCat=suspwheels#ReinforcementKits Lowell Seaton '95 M3
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#3. Sears jack bleed procedure - from Rob Birkhead
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Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2004 23:50:08 -0800 From: "Rob Birkhead" <rbirkz@earthlink.net> Subject: Sears jack bleed procedure I know there was a lot of discussion regarding the Sears alum jack and I thought a couple of you picked them up. I need to bleed mine but lost my manual. Can someone post the instructions for me? Thanks! Rob
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#4. Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires - from Trmptdc@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:29:44 EST From: Trmptdc@aol.com Subject: Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires I have a 98 and have an extra set of oem wheels. My rear tires are almost shot (fronts havea a little life). I now have the the stagger setup which obviously prevents F/R rotation. I now have the option of going to all 8.5 width or 7.5 width. This will be for street use. My inclination is to use the 7.5s and save the 8.5s for possible/probable track use in the future. Also, if I decide not to track the car, I asume a full set of 8.5 wheels would be marketable. Are there problems with 8.5s on the front? Any help/suggestions would be appreciated Steve 98 M3/4 White
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:47:46 -0500 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires I have the 10 spoke 8.5 on all 4 corners now. The front right rubs the strut slightly as that rim is bent a little, but you should be fine assuming you wheels are healthy. This is actually what dinan does on the car. I pulled my road and track archives before I did this and found a late 98-99, (can't remember) article which tested 3 flavors of the M's where they all had 8.5 on all four, one of the vehicles they just put the oem 10 spoke up front. This really helps understeer. The staggered set-up looks meaner to some, but then again so does a 245 on a 8.5 rim too. Patrick Goss -----Original Message----- From: Trmptdc@aol.com [mailto:Trmptdc@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:30 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:29:44 EST From: Trmptdc@aol.com Subject: Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires I have a 98 and have an extra set of oem wheels. My rear tires are almost shot (fronts havea a little life). I now have the the stagger setup which obviously prevents F/R rotation. I now have the option of going to all 8.5 width or 7.5 width. This will be for street use. My inclination is to use the 7.5s and save the 8.5s for possible/probable track use in the future. Also, if I decide not to track the car, I asume a full set of 8.5 wheels would be marketable. Are there problems with 8.5s on the front? Any help/suggestions would be appreciated Steve 98 M3/4 White ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. 95 M3 with Euro HFM - Pinging - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:53:50 -0500 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: 95 M3 with Euro HFM - Pinging Well the weather is finally changing for the better here in the Old North State, but it seems my '95 liked the cool weather better. Either I got a bad batch of gas on my last fill up, or the Jim C. Euro HFM setup is maxing out the fuel injector nozzle doohickeys. I've heard it mentioned before, but what was the calculated (or measured) pulse width on the duty cycle at WOT with the 95 injectors? Possible remedies: -Fuel injector cleaner (never really trusted that this did anything) -Stick with one brand of 93 octane gas. Is it possible to get 5 gallons of 100 octane gas and just mix some in every fill up? Hmmm... -Don't do any two of the following at the same time: Floor it, use A/C, have passenger in car. I guess it's time to think about upgrading to the 3.2L injectors. Does this require a software change? Thanks Jonathan Evans 95 M3 - 94ish octane 92 Miata - 87 octane (But I get the same gas mileage with either car)
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:51:53 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires At 05:30 AM 3/30/04, Trmptdc@aol.com wrote: >Are there problems with 8.5s on the front? Nope, they fit just fine. I've been running 8.5s up front on the M3 for about 4 years now. Some tires that had a big rim protector bead will *slightly* rub the strut, but that's not a big deal. And I ended up with a set of used 8" wheels from a list member for the track. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5
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#8. Re: [E36M3] 95 M3 with Euro HFM - Pinging - from DocWyte
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 07:22:50 -0800 (PST) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 95 M3 with Euro HFM - Pinging I never had issues with my stock 17.5lb injectors with the JC euro stuff, but I decided to install the 24lb injectors just in case. You will need a new chip for the larger injectors, but Turner will give you a refund of $150 when you send in your old chip... -josh --- Jonathan Evans <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 09:53:50 -0500 > From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> > Subject: 95 M3 with Euro HFM - Pinging > > Well the weather is finally changing for the better > here in the Old North State, but it seems my '95 > liked the cool weather better. Either I got a bad > batch of gas on my last fill up, or the Jim C. Euro > HFM setup is maxing out the fuel injector nozzle > doohickeys. I've heard it mentioned before, but > what was the calculated (or measured) pulse width on > the duty cycle at WOT with the 95 injectors? > > Possible remedies: > > -Fuel injector cleaner (never really trusted that > this did anything) > -Stick with one brand of 93 octane gas. Is it > possible to get 5 gallons of 100 octane gas and just > mix some in every fill up? Hmmm... > -Don't do any two of the following at the same time: > Floor it, use A/C, have passenger in car. > > I guess it's time to think about upgrading to the > 3.2L injectors. Does this require a software > change? > > Thanks > Jonathan Evans > > 95 M3 - 94ish octane > 92 Miata - 87 octane > (But I get the same gas mileage with either car) > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. File on time. http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html
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#9. 1996 M3 FS - from Nickerson, Joe
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 14:37:16 -0500 From: "Nickerson, Joe" <joe.nickerson@lmco.com> Subject: 1996 M3 FS Just like the subject says if anyone in interested follow the link: http://members.cox.net/awdpwr/M3.htm Thanks, Joe
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires - from DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:16:17 -0800 From: "DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires No problems for me. I run 17x8.5" forged LTW wheels with 245-40-17 Bridgestone SO3s. No rubbing. No spacers. Stock ride height and suspension. Dave 98 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Goss - PA [mailto:Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 5:50 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:47:46 -0500 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires I have the 10 spoke 8.5 on all 4 corners now. The front right rubs the strut slightly as that rim is bent a little, but you should be fine assuming you wheels are healthy. This is actually what dinan does on the car. I pulled my road and track archives before I did this and found a late 98-99, (can't remember) article which tested 3 flavors of the M's where they all had 8.5 on all four, one of the vehicles they just put the oem 10 spoke up front. This really helps understeer. The staggered set-up looks meaner to some, but then again so does a 245 on a 8.5 rim too. Patrick Goss -----Original Message----- From: Trmptdc@aol.com [mailto:Trmptdc@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 8:30 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 08:29:44 EST From: Trmptdc@aol.com Subject: Stagger vs. all 7.5 or 8.5....I am buying new tires I have a 98 and have an extra set of oem wheels. My rear tires are almost shot (fronts havea a little life). I now have the the stagger setup which obviously prevents F/R rotation. I now have the option of going to all 8.5 width or 7.5 width. This will be for street use. My inclination is to use the 7.5s and save the 8.5s for possible/probable track use in the future. Also, if I decide not to track the car, I asume a full set of 8.5 wheels would be marketable. Are there problems with 8.5s on the front? Any help/suggestions would be appreciated Steve 98 M3/4 White ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************