E36M3 #3680

Wednesday, April 07, 2004 19:16:21

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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements - from Kent L. Shephard
#2. Re: [E36M3] Xpel paint protection - from Kent L. Shephard
#3. RE: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements - from Go, Jeffrey
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: E36 M3 Headlights - from Go, Jeffrey
#5. Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement - from Ron Buchalski
#6. RE: [E36M3] Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement - from Wayne Miller
#7. additional work - from Gary A. Preece
#8. RE: [E36M3] additional work - from Mount, Mike
#9. Idle Drops on Braking - from Nancy and Bob Fluharty
#10. Re: [E36M3] Idle Drops on Braking - from DocWyte
#11. Re: [E36M3] Idle Drops on Braking - from NickG

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#1. Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:44:09 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements Hi, I did an HID conversion on the stock lamps. (Yea I know, anyway). It was removed from my E30 M3 when I sold it. Much, much better than stock. Kent Bob Sutterfield wrote: >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:20:51 -0600 >From: "Bob Sutterfield" <Bob@XC.Org> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements > >I don't know the difference in quality between ZKW and Hella optics, but I >have never been disappointed with Hellas. The only thing better is Cibie's >CSR but that's not available (?) for E36 fitment. > >Since you like the beam pattern you might consider beefing up your wiring >and changing to higher wattage halogen bulbs. Hella E36 lamps take H7 >bulbs, which are available in several wattages and lumen output ratings. On >my E30 I followed the wiring and relay how-to guide at >http://danielsternlighting.com with delightful results. > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Martin Bullen [mailto:vze322dw@verizon.net] >>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:46 PM >>To: E36M3 >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlights for sale >> >>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:39:15 -0400 >>From: Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlights for sale >> >>My experience is similar to Jeffrey's. I "upgraded" to the ZKW >>ellipsoids with H1's a couple of years ago, and have been >>disappointed, especially after all the positive reviews. >> >>Definitely not what I'd expected, except for the superior beam >>control/light pattern. High beam is very good, but low beams are >>marginal. Maybe it's my aging eyes.... >> >> >> >>>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:12:25 +0200 >>>From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> >>>Subject: E36 M3 Headlights for sale >>> >>>Hi Gruppe >>> >>>just upgraded my headlights to the Ellipsoid lights. Still >>> >>> >>have mixed >> >> >>>feelings.. intensity of lights and discharge is not what I >>>expected..seems the old lights were stronger..however, the >>> >>> >>ellipsoids >> >> >>>seem to give out better patterns and the lights are >>> >>> >>somewhat mellower, >> >> >>>for lack of a better word. Construction-wise, the >>> >>> >>ellipsoids are much >> >> >>>sturdier, no question. >>>The nice feature I like is the parking light feature where you have >>>some kind of a daytime driving light feature.. >>> >>>time will tell.. >>> >>> > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Xpel paint protection - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:53:02 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Xpel paint protection Hi, I bought a kit from http://www.invinca-shield.com. The product they use is by 3M. It doesn't cover as much of the hood as I would like but it works. I did custom cutting to wrap my E30 and decided as soon as I got this car to buy the kit and install it. If you have ever done window tint, you can do this stuff. You just need a hair dryer and patience. Works great! Kent Robert Manger wrote: >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 11:05:17 -0400 >From: "Robert Manger" <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> >Subject: Xpel paint protection > > > > > >jeff, > >I have the same scotchal paint protection that they offer, but I had it >custom made for the car. Meaning their kit only covers 3 inch of the hood >and mine goes up about 18 inches. YOu can barely see it when the car is >waxed, I also have the front bumper done. I highly recommend looking for a >person in your area that can do a custom wrap for the car, it will provide >better coverage and will most likely cost about the same. > > >Rob Avus and chip free > > >Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 02:01:43 +0200 >From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> >Subject: Xpel paint protection > >hi gruppe > >anyone have any experience, good or bad, of the Xpel paint protection >products? > >i am hating the stone chips I am seeing on my precious black paint on the >bumper and hood... > >thanks > > > >----------------------------------------- >CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE >This e-mail message and any attachments are only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, distribution or other use of this e-mail message or attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete and notify the sender immediately. Thank you. > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >

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#3. RE: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements - from Go, Jeffrey
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:58:47 +0200 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements bTW, I had the shop re-aim the lights...much better now thanks -----Original Message----- From: Kent L. Shephard [mailto:kents@kls-consulting.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:56 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 08:44:09 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements Hi, I did an HID conversion on the stock lamps. (Yea I know, anyway). It was removed from my E30 M3 when I sold it. Much, much better than stock. Kent Bob Sutterfield wrote: >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 19:20:51 -0600 >From: "Bob Sutterfield" <Bob@XC.Org> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlight improvements > >I don't know the difference in quality between ZKW and Hella optics, but I >have never been disappointed with Hellas. The only thing better is Cibie's >CSR but that's not available (?) for E36 fitment. > >Since you like the beam pattern you might consider beefing up your wiring >and changing to higher wattage halogen bulbs. Hella E36 lamps take H7 >bulbs, which are available in several wattages and lumen output ratings. On >my E30 I followed the wiring and relay how-to guide at >http://danielsternlighting.com with delightful results. > > > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Martin Bullen [mailto:vze322dw@verizon.net] >>Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 6:46 PM >>To: E36M3 >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlights for sale >> >>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 20:39:15 -0400 >>From: Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36 M3 Headlights for sale >> >>My experience is similar to Jeffrey's. I "upgraded" to the ZKW >>ellipsoids with H1's a couple of years ago, and have been >>disappointed, especially after all the positive reviews. >> >>Definitely not what I'd expected, except for the superior beam >>control/light pattern. High beam is very good, but low beams are >>marginal. Maybe it's my aging eyes.... >> >> >> >>>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 22:12:25 +0200 >>>From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> >>>Subject: E36 M3 Headlights for sale >>> >>>Hi Gruppe >>> >>>just upgraded my headlights to the Ellipsoid lights. Still >>> >>> >>have mixed >> >> >>>feelings.. intensity of lights and discharge is not what I >>>expected..seems the old lights were stronger..however, the >>> >>> >>ellipsoids >> >> >>>seem to give out better patterns and the lights are >>> >>> >>somewhat mellower, >> >> >>>for lack of a better word. Construction-wise, the >>> >>> >>ellipsoids are much >> >> >>>sturdier, no question. >>>The nice feature I like is the parking light feature where you have >>>some kind of a daytime driving light feature.. >>> >>>time will tell.. >>> >>> > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: E36 M3 Headlights - from Go, Jeffrey
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 18:04:04 +0200 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: E36 M3 Headlights Hi Justin, I did get the ZKW's. and you are right, I had the shop do a re-aim yesterday and I tested it last night, and boy, does that make a difference... Light pattern is solid and has nice cutoff and reaches pretty far..:) Time will tell whether I have the same issues as you do, but these ZKW's are supposed to be European quality lights, so I should not have these issues.. BTW, I did notice a small screw jutting out INSIDE the housing , below the projector bulb...does yours have this as well? thanks -----Original Message----- From: JUSTIN GERRY [mailto:JGERRY@butchers.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 7:06 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: E36 M3 Headlights Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 09:59:40 -0400 From: "JUSTIN GERRY" <JGERRY@butchers.com> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Headlights Jeff, Just curious, did you get the ZKWs, Bosch, Depo or one of the others? The construction and in some cases, the light patterns of the Taiwanese lights are not as good as the German ones. I've had a set of ZKWs for almost three years now, they are great. Construction is good, and they have a nice sharp cutoff. I've had a couple of minor issues: 1) I had to replace the head light seal, the moisture behind the glass was driving me crazy. Though the replacement gasket from BMW is thicker and has eliminated the problem entirely. 2) The tabs for holding the glass to the light body are getting a bit brittle (but that is the product of the lovely NE weather), but I really can't complain. Low beam does take some getting used to, but the actual pattern is nearly identical (except for the higher right side cutoff) as an early E46 with the xenon lights (I compared them side by side). The only obvious difference is the lack of the xenon lights. The 55W bulbs lack a little bit and I figure I'll go xenon at some point in the future. Getting them adjusted properly is critical. It is easy to end up too low or too high. I still think it is worth every penny to get a set of those lights. The E36 american lights are just horrible. I think it says something when I could get into my girlfriends geo prism and find that the stock headlights had a much better pattern than the stock american headlights in my E36. The parking light feature is of course a city light, though some people have used them like a day time running light with higher wattage bulbs. -Justin -- '76 02 '97 m3 bmw cca checkout http://www.bmw2002.net ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:01:55 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement For those of you who own a Valentine 1 AND an E39, E46, E85, or E53 model car, check out this stealth enhancement: http://www.jaricdesign.com/products.htm It's pretty cool! -rb _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362ave/direct/01/

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 13:28:37 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement I picked up one of these last week and wanted to put it in over the weekend but was working on another list member's car so I didn't have a chance. I plan on mounting my V1 on the rear shelf for a totally stealth setup. I have a Escort Passport Laser Shifter ZR-3 to deal with LIDAR. -Wayne -----Original Message----- From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:06 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement Date: Wed, 07 Apr 2004 13:01:55 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Cool Valentine 1 Enhancement For those of you who own a Valentine 1 AND an E39, E46, E85, or E53 model car, check out this stealth enhancement: http://www.jaricdesign.com/products.htm It's pretty cool! -rb _________________________________________________________________ Free up your inbox with MSN Hotmail Extra Storage! Multiple plans available. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-us&page=hotmail/es2&ST=1/go/onm00200362 ave/direct/01/ ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#7. additional work - from Gary A. Preece
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:45:46 -0400 From: "Gary A. Preece" <ga.preece@att.net> Subject: additional work Hey Guys, My shop said that I ought to do a valve job and replace timing chains when I replace the head gasket. What do you do? Thanks. Gary 95 M3 135K

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#8. RE: [E36M3] additional work - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 15:38:42 -0700 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] additional work You've got the expensive part already figured in by replacing the head gasket. Why not go ahead and do the work? And while you're at it, how about swapping them cams out for some lumpy ones? Won't the euro M3 ones fit? Someone on the list ought to know. Mike '95 M3 play toy '01 Ducati 748R race toy '01 Ducati 996 street toy '04 KTM 250 dirt toy '99 Chevy truck - bike and dog hauler -----Original Message----- From: Gary A. Preece [mailto:ga.preece@att.net] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 1:56 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] additional work Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 16:45:46 -0400 From: "Gary A. Preece" <ga.preece@att.net> Subject: additional work Hey Guys, My shop said that I ought to do a valve job and replace timing chains when I replace the head gasket. What do you do? Thanks. Gary 95 M3 135K ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Idle Drops on Braking - from Nancy and Bob Fluharty
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:40:28 -0000 From: "Nancy and Bob Fluharty" <FLUHAR@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Idle Drops on Braking I've got two S50 engines, one in my 95 M3 and one recently installed in my 87 325is. They are very close in build date (8/95 and 6/95) and mileage (82k, 89k). The swapped one is in excellent condition with good compression and no vacuum leaks. But it has developed an annoying habit of dropping to near-stall when I push in the clutch as I brake. It bounces up past 1k rpms, then stabilizes at ~700. The engine comes close enough to stalling that on hard braking I feel the vacuum/booster fluctuation in the pedal, and it seems the harder I'm braking, the more pronounced the effect. This obviously has implications for the track, and my first track session draws near. I don't get this at all in the M3, only in the E30/S50. The E30 has a Conforti chip; the M3 has the stock chip. I can't try trading chips, as the chip in the E30 includes a deletion of the EWS. The swapped engine came with plugs which appeared to be fairly old. I replaced them (Bosch F7LDCR, old and new) after driving for a few weeks on the old ones. The idle problem did not occur before I changed plugs, but was not immediate after the change. I've rechecked the plugs for tightness; also all the coils (Bosch) and their connections look good. I've also done the Bentley tests for the Throttle Position Sensor. All results were right where they should be Two other symptoms which may be related: there is a very mild intermittent miss at idle, and gas mileage in the E30 is slightly (5-10%) lower than in the M3, despite it's being over 300# lighter, with similar driving. The archives show others have complained about this, but if there's a solution in there, I didn't find it. There's also some discussion of whether the Conforti chip is a factor, but no consensus. Any suggestions? Bob Fluharty Cincinnati

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Idle Drops on Braking - from DocWyte
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 17:08:42 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Idle Drops on Braking My '95 M3 does the same thing. Weather has been too crappy for me to pop off the idle control valve and clean it out. I think that's the problem. Right now I just blip the throttle a bit when coming to a stop... -josh --- Nancy and Bob Fluharty <FLUHAR@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:40:28 -0000 > From: "Nancy and Bob Fluharty" > <FLUHAR@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Idle Drops on Braking > > I've got two S50 engines, one in my 95 M3 and one > recently installed in my 87 325is. They are very > close > in build date (8/95 and 6/95) and mileage (82k, > 89k). > The swapped one is in excellent condition with good > compression and no vacuum leaks. But it has > developed > an annoying habit of dropping to near-stall when I > push in the clutch as I brake. It bounces up past 1k > rpms, then stabilizes at ~700. The engine comes > close > enough to stalling that on hard braking I feel the > vacuum/booster fluctuation in the pedal, and it > seems > the harder I'm braking, the more pronounced the > effect. This obviously has implications for the > track, > and my first track session draws near. > > I don't get this at all in the M3, only in the > E30/S50. The E30 has a Conforti chip; the M3 has the > stock chip. I can't try trading chips, as the chip > in > the E30 includes a deletion of the EWS. > > The swapped engine came with plugs which appeared to > be fairly old. I replaced them (Bosch F7LDCR, old > and > new) after driving for a few weeks on the old ones. > The idle problem did not occur before I changed > plugs, > but was not immediate after the change. I've > rechecked > the plugs for tightness; also all the coils (Bosch) > and their connections look good. > > I've also done the Bentley tests for the Throttle > Position Sensor. All > results were right where they should be > > Two other symptoms which may be related: there is a > very mild intermittent miss at idle, and gas mileage > in the E30 is slightly (5-10%) lower than in the M3, > despite it's being over 300# lighter, with similar > driving. > > The archives show others have complained about this, > but if there's a solution in there, I didn't find > it. > There's also some discussion of whether the Conforti > chip is a factor, but no consensus. > > Any suggestions? > > Bob Fluharty > Cincinnati > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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#11. Re: [E36M3] Idle Drops on Braking - from NickG
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Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 20:13:25 -0400 From: "NickG" <nick@tech-nick.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Idle Drops on Braking Check/replace the O2 sensor. As the O2 sensor ages, it starts to give faulty readings. This adversely affects the adaption values, causing a fluctuating idle during the condition you describe. Nick > Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2004 19:40:28 -0000 > From: "Nancy and Bob Fluharty" <FLUHAR@worldnet.att.net> > Subject: Idle Drops on Braking > > I've got two S50 engines, one in my 95 M3 and one > recently installed in my 87 325is. They are very close > in build date (8/95 and 6/95) and mileage (82k, 89k). > The swapped one is in excellent condition with good > compression and no vacuum leaks. But it has developed > an annoying habit of dropping to near-stall when I > push in the clutch as I brake. It bounces up past 1k > rpms, then stabilizes at ~700. The engine comes close > enough to stalling that on hard braking I feel the > vacuum/booster fluctuation in the pedal, and it seems > the harder I'm braking, the more pronounced the > effect. This obviously has implications for the track, > and my first track session draws near. > > I don't get this at all in the M3, only in the > E30/S50. The E30 has a Conforti chip; the M3 has the > stock chip. I can't try trading chips, as the chip in > the E30 includes a deletion of the EWS. > > Any suggestions? > > Bob Fluharty > Cincinnati

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