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#1. Torque sticks, which 4 would you choose for an M3? - from Msebmwman@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:53:58 EDT From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: Torque sticks, which 4 would you choose for an M3? If you had a choice of 4 torque sticks for doing routine work on your M3 (including wheel bolts, brakes), which 4 ft-lb would you choose out of the following list: 65lb, 75, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 or 150ft/lb. I would pick: 65, 80, 100, 120? Thanks, Marc Looking at torque sticks for 1/2 inch drive cordless impact wrench
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#2. RE: [E36M3] minimum tread depth - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:55:03 -0600 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] minimum tread depth A new shaved tire will handle a lot differently than an old tire that has worn down to the same tread depth. The main reasons are age and heat cycles. Heat cycling changes the chemical composition of the rubber making it harder and more durable. This is the reason Hoosiers get slower as you use them more. Hoosiers are typically at the end of their competitive life before you use up all the tread. The same holds true for street tire, though not to the same extent. If you have to drive through any rain, the minimal tread depth can be a significant safety hazard. Bite the bullet and replace the tires ASAP and throw the old tires away. [Soap Box] There are good ways to save money, risking your car or your life saving a few $$$$ on tires is not one of them. {/Soap Box] IMHO, Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Newman, Christopher [mailto:CNewman@LSAC.org] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 12:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] minimum tread depth Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:29:53 -0400 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: minimum tread depth Hello all. I have a question concerning the useful life of tires. My 2 rear street tires are approaching the wear bars, so I'm considering replacing them soon. But it seems to me these 2 tires still have enough tread left in them to be useful at the track or an autocross. Less tread block equals less tread squirm. But how low can you really go ? I know people shave their tires, and I've been to tracks and autocrosses, but I never measured how much people are wearing their tires out before replacing them. Also, I've never seen it first-hand, but I've heard of people going dumpster hopping for old tires. Do that many people toss their tires before they are totally used up ? Thanks for any comments. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. The V710 is out, Cooper Tire is in - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:57:05 -0600 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: The V710 is out, Cooper Tire is in Another R-Compound tire to try out: http://tinyurl.com/ytdmg Here is what I have learned so far about rpices and sizing. (info from Mark Sipe on Bimmerforums and from TireRack) 205/55R14 AVON TECH R 146.00 205/50R15 AVON TECH R 155.00 225/45R15 AVON TECH R 161.00 225/50R16 AVON TECH R 162.00 225/45R17 AVON TECH R 181.00 275/40R17 AVON TECH R 203.00 Unfortunately, nothing to fit the M3... :( Graeme
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Torque sticks, which 4 would you choose for an M3? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:14:17 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Torque sticks, which 4 would you choose for an M3? I only use 1, the one for the lug bolts. I think it's the 80 nm, 110 lb-ft one, and then only as a preventive measure to avoid over tightening them. I (now) always retorque with a wrench after using them torque stick. Last time I didn't and relied only on the stick the left front worked lose at Watkins Glen, not what you want to happen going into the boot. Other than that, the torque wrench is my friend and the impact wrench is primarily to remove difficult nuts/bolts, not put them back. Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. -----Original Message----- From: Msebmwman@aol.com [mailto:Msebmwman@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:56 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Torque sticks, which 4 would you choose for an M3? Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:53:58 EDT From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: Torque sticks, which 4 would you choose for an M3? If you had a choice of 4 torque sticks for doing routine work on your M3 (including wheel bolts, brakes), which 4 ft-lb would you choose out of the following list: 65lb, 75, 80, 90, 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 or 150ft/lb. I would pick: 65, 80, 100, 120? Thanks, Marc Looking at torque sticks for 1/2 inch drive cordless impact wrench ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. RE: [E36M3] minimum tread depth - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:28:07 -0400 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] minimum tread depth I have a reputation for running tires past the tread bars, so I might be able to comment. When I was auto-xing regularly, (wearing out 2 sets per a 4 month season), I was able to test this theory. Newer was always the best, having not been heat cycled as many times, brand new was squirmy until you had them worn in a bit, (hence why some shave even new street tires in street tire categories btw). Depending on brand, well some seemed to get very greasy as they approached the min tread depth, as to get much worse. I had one set of toyo T1, (before the T1-s came out), that I wore down to the point they looked liked R compounds. There wasn't a hint of tread pattern left. I ran them in the back with newish pilots up front, needless to say car was drifter.... The older flavor pilot mxx3 felt really good IMO all the way down to approaching the wear bars, after that they were garbage, but fun from a tossing around perspective. I'm at the wear bars on my newer rev pilots now and they are getting noisy, (squeeling), so I can guestimate the same is happening.... The lower the tread gets past wear bars, well you are hitting tread compounds of different qualities than what the tire was engineered for. Needless to say the risks of rain performance and general structural integrity. I must admit I do like running on old tires for the fun factor for awhile, that way I feel like I can abuse them if I want. New tires, I feel like I have to save them for something. Pat -----Original Message----- From: Newman, Christopher [mailto:CNewman@LSAC.org] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] minimum tread depth Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:29:53 -0400 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: minimum tread depth Hello all. I have a question concerning the useful life of tires. My 2 rear street tires are approaching the wear bars, so I'm considering replacing them soon. But it seems to me these 2 tires still have enough tread left in them to be useful at the track or an autocross. Less tread block equals less tread squirm. But how low can you really go ? I know people shave their tires, and I've been to tracks and autocrosses, but I never measured how much people are wearing their tires out before replacing them. Also, I've never seen it first-hand, but I've heard of people going dumpster hopping for old tires. Do that many people toss their tires before they are totally used up ? Thanks for any comments. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#6. RE: [E36M3] minimum tread depth - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:39:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] minimum tread depth I was having fun too running the pilot sports I had down to almost nothing. At driver schools, they were fine. On the streets, it was fun to get the car sideways when you were purposely driving like an idiot. Then one day when I was just trying to get from point A to B and hopped onto the highway in a light drizzle....the back came around... http://www.geocities.com/chester_p_wong/booboo/1.jpg Not fun. Chester --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > I must admit I do like running on old tires for the fun factor for awhile, > that way I feel like I can abuse them if I want. New tires, I feel like I > have to save them for something. =====
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#7. Additional screw on ZKW lights>?? - from Go, Jeffrey
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:40:58 +0200 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: Additional screw on ZKW lights>?? Hi gruppe being that I am still stuck in the a**l stage of my ID development, I was admiring my new foundness for elliopsoids (ZKW) when I noticed that there was ONE screw that was jutting out from under the projector bulbs.. this is on both passenger and driver side lights...any ideas? I can attach a picture here... Jeff Go SAP Global IT-GOS SAP Labs, Palo Alto, LLC
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#8. Re: [E36M3] minimum tread depth - from David Ngo
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 12:50:23 -0700 (PDT) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] minimum tread depth My S-O3s still have quite a bit of grip even though they're about 1/8" from the wear bars. Perhaps that has something to do with the multiple rubber compounds used in them. I'm going to try to eke out a school at Summit Point at the beginning of May before replacing them with new Pilot Sports (that I picked up for $85 each at Tire Rack.) Dave --- "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> wrote: > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:29:53 -0400 > From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> > Subject: minimum tread depth > > > Hello all. > I have a question concerning the useful life of > tires. > My 2 rear street tires are approaching the wear > bars, so I'm considering > replacing them soon. > But it seems to me these 2 tires still have enough > tread left in them to > be useful at the track or an autocross. > Less tread block equals less tread squirm. But how > low can you really > go ? > I know people shave their tires, and I've been to > tracks and > autocrosses, but I never measured how much > people are wearing their tires out before replacing > them. Also, I've > never seen it first-hand, > but I've heard of people going dumpster hopping for > old tires. Do that > many people > toss their tires before they are totally used up ? > Thanks for any > comments. > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Additional screw on ZKW lights>?? - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 15:54:29 -0400 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Additional screw on ZKW lights>?? My depo lights have the same thing as do the OEM US. As far as I know, we don't adjust it. Actually I tried and well you have to disassemble the entire light to get at it to make a difference. It's attached to a rather long screw which 'could' push or pull the bottom in and out so as to adjust height. But then that's what the top ones are for. -----Original Message----- From: Go, Jeffrey [mailto:jeffrey.go@sap.com] Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 3:46 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Additional screw on ZKW lights>?? Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 21:40:58 +0200 From: "Go, Jeffrey" <jeffrey.go@sap.com> Subject: Additional screw on ZKW lights>?? Hi gruppe being that I am still stuck in the a**l stage of my ID development, I was admiring my new foundness for elliopsoids (ZKW) when I noticed that there was ONE screw that was jutting out from under the projector bulbs.. this is on both passenger and driver side lights...any ideas? I can attach a picture here... Jeff Go SAP Global IT-GOS SAP Labs, Palo Alto, LLC ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Wanted: Trailer for M3 - from Gardner, Russell - BALTO
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Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 14:58:23 -0500 From: "Gardner, Russell - BALTO" <russell.gardner@piperrudnick.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Wanted: Trailer for M3 Jay asked for opinions about car trailers.... The first question you need to ask yourself is how much can you pull? If your tow vehicle is power-compromised, then trailer weight becomes an issue. For example, if your max towing weight is 5000lbs. and you are looking to haul a 3200-3500lb. M3, a steel trailer rated at 4100lbs. load capacity is likely going to weight 1800lbs, which doesn't leave much left over your tires, tools, etc. A similarly rated aluminum trailer will weight half that. And remember that the tow vehicle capacity may no longer be accurate due to age, weaker engine, impaired cooling system, worn tranny, etc. Also consider where you will be hauling. Are there any hills? Going up hills really can be a struggle for a tow vehicle at the max. (I learned that going through Pennsylvania on the way to Watkins Glen. My old Chevy 1500 just ran out of steam. I replaced it with a Titan, which should be able to haul the Queen Mary!). The next question is size, and that is pretty easy. Most car trailers are 75" to 80" wide between the wheel arches. Length is approx. 20' from tongue to end. Ramps depend on your car. I have a lowered 911 for which I need 9' ramps to avoid scraping. Open bed vs. full bed is personal choice based on anticipated usage. Open bed is lighter and cheaper, but limits you to hauling cars. The open bed is a bit easier to use because you can get under the car to access tie-downs, etc. Options include tire racks, front shields, etc. I have a pick up, so I don't need a tire rack, but the front shield helps keep the car cleaner. Trailers really make life a lot simpler for track junkies. Russ Gardner 911 RS America E36 M3 Nissan Titan > Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2004 06:02:47 -0700 > From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> > Subject: [E36M3] Wanted: Trailer for M3 > > Group- > > I'm thinking about getting a trailer for my car. Looking for an open > trailer, tandem axel, elec brakes, etc. > > If anyone knows of something available within 400 miles of Grants Pass, > OR, please let me know. > > Also, I'd like some opinions from those with experience. > > Open bed vs. full bed? > Beaver Tail vs. non-BT? > 16' vs. 18', or longer? > How long should tongue be to avoid jack-knifing? > > I've never owned a trailer before, so I'm looking for any tips on what to > look for. > > Thansk - Jay > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ The information contained in this communication may be confidential, is intended only for the use of the recipient named above, and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication, or any of its contents, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please re-send this communication to the sender and delete the original message and any copy of it from your computer system. Thank you. For more information please visit us at http://www.piperrudnick.com ____________________________________________________________________________