E36M3 #3754

Wednesday, June 02, 2004 17:22:55

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator - from Kent L. Shephard
#2. Re: LTW Oil Pan and Dual Pickup Oil Pump - from Neil Maller
#3. Do I Need Sway Bar Reinforcements? - from Lowe, Daniel
#4. Re: [E36M3] Do I Need Sway Bar Reinforcements? - from Jim Bassett
#5. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
#6. RE: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator - from Newman, Christopher
#7. exhaust problem - from Hunt Hodgetts
#8. Re: [E36M3] BMW CD43 radio - How to access 6-disk changer? - from Joe Huie
#9. Re: [E36M3] exhaust problem - from Suneal
#10. Re: [E36M3] exhaust problem - from cteague@cox.net

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 10:55:21 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator The wear sensor means the pads are getting close to the point where you will trash your rotors. I would advise you to do your brakes, now. Once the light is on you should drive home or the place where you plan to have the brakes done. You can't tell when the pad will be gone and you will be on metal. Anyway, the brakes on an E36 are a breeze. I did pads and rotors is a couple of hours on my '97. In the 16 years I have owned BMWs (530i, E30 M3, and now E36 M3), I have never seen the wear indicator. I always swap the pads before that happens. Pads are cheap, brakes failing isn't. Kent (E36 M3 , CA Plate -> TECH BIZ). Newman, Christopher wrote: >Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 13:19:17 -0400 >From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> >Subject: Brake Pad Wear Indicator > >Hello, >On Monday, the brake pad wear indicator light appeared in the gauge >cluster. >It's the red circle with 3 dashes around the left of it and 3 around the >right of it. >I had the car inspected a month ago, and was advised the brakes passed >inspection, they were at 4/32, and had about 4,000 miles left in them. >I realize the 4,000 figure was just an estimate, but the car hasn't >traveled >anywhere close to that many miles. The car has been driven in its >normal >fashion. Braking performance has not changed/diminished. > >Is it just a precautionary measure by BMW for the light to come on well >in advance >of needing actual brake replacement ? Has anyone out there traveled for >a fairly >long distance with the light lit ? If so, how many miles did you travel >? >More important, is it safe ? As mentioned, the brakes perform great. >I would imagine braking performance would decrease and/or the brakes >would make >noise if you had really taken them too far. Thanks for any comments. > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >

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#2. Re:  LTW Oil Pan and Dual Pickup Oil Pump - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 13:12:36 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: <WTB> LTW Oil Pan and Dual Pickup Oil Pump on 6/2/04 12:51 PM, Rich Dorffer <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> wrote: > Also, if anyone went to a different method of adding some insurance to their > lubrication system (baffled oil pans, Accusump, etc.), I would be interested > in hearing or learning more about it. This is intended for a combined purpose > street/track car. Rich, I installed the Turner oil pan baffles earlier this year. Of course when proof of effectiveness is that nothing happens, it's hard to know if it's working. Still, I'm not hearing the lifter noise any more when I come in off the track. And it was my opportunity to check that oil pump nut and apply some Loctite. Neil 96 M3

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#3. Do I Need Sway Bar Reinforcements? - from Lowe, Daniel
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:12:59 -0400 From: "Lowe, Daniel" <DLowe@MVCUSA.com> Subject: Do I Need Sway Bar Reinforcements? I'll be installing UUC Swaybarbarians on my '95 M3 soon and wanted to know if I should be looking to install some reinforcements for the mounts. If so, what's the recommended source. Thanks. Regards, Dan

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Do I Need Sway Bar Reinforcements? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:46:49 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Do I Need Sway Bar Reinforcements? At 11:21 AM 6/2/04, Lowe, Daniel wrote: >I'll be installing UUC Swaybarbarians on my '95 M3 soon and wanted to >know if I should be looking to install some reinforcements for the >mounts. If so, what's the recommended source. Thanks. I would, as a preventative measure. I've installed (actually, my mechanic installed :-)) the Turner reinforcements on both cars (M3 has UUC Swaybarbarians; 325is Eibachs as part of race suspension). Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator - from alex.fadeev@verizon.com
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 13:48:29 -0500 From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> wrote: > > Hello, > On Monday, the brake pad wear indicator light appeared in the gauge > cluster. It's the red circle with 3 dashes around the left of it and > 3 around the right of it. Chris, This means that you pads had worn down enough to chew through the pad sensor (a wire loop imbedded into the pad via a plastic plug). Add a new $15 (yeah, I know) front sensor to you shopping list. > I had the car inspected a month ago, and was advised the brakes passed > inspection, they were at 4/32, and had about 4,000 miles left in them. > I realize the 4,000 figure was just an estimate, but the car hasn't > traveled anywhere close to that many miles. The car has been driven > in its normal fashion. Braking performance has not changed/diminished. Out of curiosity, who was doing the "inspection" and how did they "pass" near worthless pads? Add a new wrench to your shopping list. 4/32nds is around 3mm => hardly any pad material left. And what little is left is likely crumbling off! > Is it just a precautionary measure by BMW for the light to come on > well in advance of needing actual brake replacement ? Absolutely! I tell you, those BMW engineers have no appreciation for frugality. The pad has entire 1/8" of an inch of material left, not to mention the backing plates, and they want us to throw it away!? Ha! > Has anyone out there traveled for a fairly long distance with the > light lit ? If so, how many miles did you travel? Absolutely! All the way through the backing plates an into impact breaking. Then take the insurance check and just buy a new car with brand new pads. No need to ever waste money on breaks! > More important, is it safe ? As mentioned, the brakes perform great. > I would imagine braking performance would decrease and/or the brakes > would make noise if you had really taken them too far. Safe, shmafe. What does BMW know about brake pad ware?! Just because their sensor is telling you to swap the pads is not excuse for throwing good remaining pad material away. You paid good money for those pads. Why not keep driving till the car wont stop no more.... alex f *tongue in cheek* P.S.: Go out and let a local independent replace your pads ASAP !!!

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator - from Newman, Christopher
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 15:58:45 -0400 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Pad Wear Indicator Alex, Thanks for your reply. The local independent shop that did the inspection came well-recommended by numerous sources. (Although I must admit I didn't have a positive experience) That's why I posed the question to the group. I'm not intent on running every last ounce out of the brakes, it just doesn't make sense to me that an expert BMW shop would suggest I have thousands of miles left and I only got a few hundred. Thanks again. -----Original Message----- From: alex.fadeev@verizon.com > I had the car inspected a month ago, and was advised the brakes passed > inspection, they were at 4/32, and had about 4,000 miles left in them. > I realize the 4,000 figure was just an estimate, but the car hasn't > traveled anywhere close to that many miles. The car has been driven > in its normal fashion. Braking performance has not changed/diminished. Out of curiosity, who was doing the "inspection" and how did they "pass" near worthless pads? Add a new wrench to your shopping list. 4/32nds is around 3mm => hardly any pad material left. And what little is left is likely crumbling off! > More important, is it safe ? As mentioned, the brakes perform great. > I would imagine braking performance would decrease and/or the brakes > would make noise if you had really taken them too far. Safe, shmafe. What does BMW know about brake pad ware?! Just because their sensor is telling you to swap the pads is not excuse for throwing good remaining pad material away. You paid good money for those pads. Why not keep driving till the car wont stop no more.... alex f *tongue in cheek* P.S.: Go out and let a local independent replace your pads ASAP !!!

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#7. exhaust problem - from Hunt Hodgetts
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:09:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: exhaust problem I recently added a UUC Twin Silencer exhaust to my 97 M3 Coupe. It has the AA supercharger so an aftermarket exhaust is necessary for my vehicle. I am going to sell my UUC TSE because it is simply too loud. Can anyone recommend a quieter aftermarket exhaust? Hunt Hodgetts, Atlanta 97 M3 Coupe & AA Supercharger __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

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#8. Re: [E36M3] BMW CD43 radio - How to access 6-disk changer? - from Joe Huie
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:38:31 -0700 From: "Joe Huie" <jhuie@inreach.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW CD43 radio - How to access 6-disk changer? RE: [E36M3] BMW CD43 radio - How to access 6-disk changer?As a follow up to my question regarding the how to access the 6-disk changer with the CD43 unit in my 1995 M3, the answer is that it will not work. Rich Dorfer and Neil Maller are correct in that the later model CD43 head units will not operate the older ('95 and prior?) 6-disk CD changers (I-bus issues). The only way around this is to get a new and compatible 6-disk CD changer. Joe

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#9. Re: [E36M3] exhaust problem - from Suneal
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 17:38:16 -0400 From: "Suneal" <suneal@suneal.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] exhaust problem An AA Gen 3 or Supersprint should solve your sound level issue, Hunt. Suneal Nandigam ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hunt Hodgetts" <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 02, 2004 5:11 PM Subject: [E36M3] exhaust problem > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:09:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> > Subject: exhaust problem > > I recently added a UUC Twin Silencer exhaust to my 97 > M3 Coupe. It has the AA supercharger so an aftermarket > exhaust is necessary for my vehicle. I am going to > sell my UUC TSE because it is simply too loud. > > Can anyone recommend a quieter aftermarket exhaust? > > Hunt Hodgetts, Atlanta > 97 M3 Coupe & AA Supercharger > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. > http://messenger.yahoo.com/ > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > >

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#10. Re: [E36M3] exhaust problem - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 18:11:49 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] exhaust problem Hunt, I have the RDSport exhaust. It is much quieter than most, and only a little louder than stock. It's 25 lbs, so a bunch lighter. That and the Supersprint are the 2 quiet ones besides stock that I know of. Chris 97 M3/4 > Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2004 14:09:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> > Subject: exhaust problem > > I recently added a UUC Twin Silencer exhaust to my 97 > M3 Coupe. It has the AA supercharger so an aftermarket > exhaust is necessary for my vehicle. I am going to > sell my UUC TSE because it is simply too loud. > > Can anyone recommend a quieter aftermarket exhaust?

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