E36M3 #3780

Friday, June 18, 2004 10:51:34

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#1. 255 RA1s on '95s - from AVUSM3@aol.com
#2. Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#3. Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s - from DocWyte
#4. Inexpesive 17x8 wheels - from jakeadavis@comcast.net
#5. new rims new problems !! - from Ticalian57@aol.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! - from S Lafredo
#7. Re: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! - from cteague@cox.net
#8. Help: Soft Brake Pedal - from Riley, Scott
#9. Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area - from Carey Probst
#10. Re: [E36M3] Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area - from Steven Tom

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#1. 255 RA1s on '95s - from AVUSM3@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:30:40 EDT From: AVUSM3@aol.com Subject: 255 RA1s on '95s Lowell - I am in the same position you were. The 255/40/17 Toyo RA1s will not fit on the rear of my car without "Heroic" measures. From my exposure to different E36 M3s - it's my feeling that the OBDII cars had the rear fenders rolled more at the factory which makes sense due to the stock 8.5" wheel on the back of later cars. I think the '95s are a little tougher to put 255s on due to more of a stock fender lip from the factory. By the way - did your paint survive the padded jaw pliers?? John The rear was the same story. No rubbing on the inside of the wheelwell or muffler but big time rubbing on the outside fender. I almost sliced one tire open before I got home from the tire store. I again maxxed out the negative camber on the rear and aggressively rolled my rear fender lips. I ended up taking a pair of padded jaw pliers and squeezing the fender lip in. No roller would be able to apply the force needed to curl the fender lip that I needed. Bottom line, 255/40 RA1 are going to rub on stock BMW 8.5 inch rims unless you take some heroic efforts. I probably won't be able to live with them on the street due to reduced tire life with the negative camber needed. We'll see. I have run R compound tires on the street for years. For you, I'd recommend 235/40. Or did you want the 45 series because they are cheaper? Vilven Tire wanted $195 for the 235/40 size. The 40 series tire is quite a bit shorter for better acceleration. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 Dallas, TX

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#2. Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:24:54 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s John writes: > I think the '95s are a little tougher to put 255s on due to more of > a stock fender lip from the factory. > > By the way - did your paint survive the padded jaw pliers?? > John, You could be right. I know several local guys that have used 255/40 street tires on the rear of their 96'+ models with no modifications at all. I can't think of any '95 models with 255/40 tires. Of course, a 255/40 tire is not appropriate for the stock '95 7.5" rims. Yeah, my paint survived fine on the outside. I used a ragged covered block of wood on the outside and piece of cloth on the inside jaw. My paint on the inside of the fender is well chewed up as is. Running R compound tires 24/7 for the last 5 years has pretty well chipped the paint off the inside. Looking at my car, you can't tell the fenders are rolled - no paint distress. Fender rolling is really not necessary. The only contact is the rearmost 3-4 inches. Rolling the remainder of the fender is not needed. The problem I ran into and I suspect everybody else, is I have this rubber filler material in the seam of the fender lip. You can't roll the lip with very much of this filler material inside. I eventually hit on the idea to take my Dremel tool and gently grind out this rubber filler for the 3-4 inches I needed. Then I could more easily curl the lip up. And I am not talking about fold the lip flat. Stock it is about 10:00 o'clock position. I just stood it straight up at 12:00 o'clock. I only gained about 1/4" but that is all that was needed. Lowell Seaton '95 M3

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#3. Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s - from DocWyte
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 04:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: DocWyte <josh_wyte@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s I run 255-40-17 Victoracers on my '95 M3 and 255 Toyo T1-S as my street rubber. I have factory ltw wheels for the race tires and 17x9 offset 42.5 IFG's for the street. I did roll the rear fenders. I do think that you need to roll the entire fender. As Lowe found, you need to do something about the undercoating. I was able to heat it up with a heat gun (along with the paint) when I rolled my fenders. That allowed it to ooze out when I tucked the fender lip up. -josh --- LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 03:24:54 EDT > From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 255 RA1s on '95s > > John writes: > > > I think the '95s are a little tougher to put 255s > on due to more of > > a stock fender lip from the factory. > > > > By the way - did your paint survive the padded jaw > pliers?? > > > > John, > > You could be right. I know several local guys that > have used 255/40 street > tires on the rear of their 96'+ models with no > modifications at all. I can't > think of any '95 models with 255/40 tires. Of > course, a 255/40 tire is not > appropriate for the stock '95 7.5" rims. > > Yeah, my paint survived fine on the outside. I used > a ragged covered block > of wood on the outside and piece of cloth on the > inside jaw. My paint on the > inside of the fender is well chewed up as is. > Running R compound tires 24/7 > for the last 5 years has pretty well chipped the > paint off the inside. Looking > at my car, you can't tell the fenders are rolled - > no paint distress. > > Fender rolling is really not necessary. The only > contact is the rearmost 3-4 > inches. Rolling the remainder of the fender is not > needed. The problem I > ran into and I suspect everybody else, is I have > this rubber filler material in > the seam of the fender lip. You can't roll the lip > with very much of this > filler material inside. I eventually hit on the > idea to take my Dremel tool and > gently grind out this rubber filler for the 3-4 > inches I needed. Then I could > more easily curl the lip up. And I am not talking > about fold the lip flat. > Stock it is about 10:00 o'clock position. I just > stood it straight up at > 12:00 o'clock. I only gained about 1/4" but that is > all that was needed. > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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#4. Inexpesive 17x8 wheels - from jakeadavis@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:27:41 +0000 From: jakeadavis@comcast.net Subject: Inexpesive 17x8 wheels I have no interest one way or the other in this, just passing it along if someone needs inexpensive wheels for their M3. Cheapwheels.com is liquidating discontinued TSW wheels. 2 styles in 17"x8" 40 ET, a mesh similar to BBS RX and a split 5 spoke similar to SSR GT-1...note similar, not exactly like. If you call and ask Frank, they will honor their recent Ebay price of $339 for a set of 4 including shipping! Add $40 for accessory kit, inclues centering ring, lug bolts, cool center nut in red, black, silver, gold or purple. Jake Davis

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#5. new rims new problems !! - from Ticalian57@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:48:32 EDT From: Ticalian57@aol.com Subject: new rims new problems !! hi all i have nt checked in here in a while which normally means my car has been running good but now i just got some 18 x 8.5 hamann's and it seems like the rear drivers side is rubbing wheel on wheel well while any one in the back it doesnts seem to me that any other wheels are rubbing what could be the cause of this ??

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#6. Re: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! - from S Lafredo
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 14:40:31 -0400 From: S Lafredo <slafredo@classicflytyer.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! Rear D/S rubbing is "usually" the muffler. Not sure if the problem is limited to aftermarket mufflers. Some people, dent the muffler to clear the wheels. Ouch! If that is not the problem, pull the wheel and check the wheel liner to see if the tire is rubbing on the inbound side of the liner. Some people cut the liner to stop this. I would not. Lastly, it could be rubbing on the outbound side on the inside of the fender lip. Call Tire Rack and rent the feder lip roller. If none of the this works try different tires. Some tires do not have as "squared" a shoulder as others. ---- Original message ---- >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 12:51:18 -0500 >From: Ticalian57@aol.com >Subject: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > >Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:48:32 EDT >From: Ticalian57@aol.com >Subject: new rims new problems !! > >hi all i have nt checked in here in a while which normally means my car has >been running good but now i just got some 18 x 8.5 hamann's and it seems like >the rear drivers side is rubbing wheel on wheel well while any one in the back >it doesnts seem to me that any other wheels are rubbing what could be the >cause of this ?? slafredo@classicflytyer.com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! - from cteague@cox.net
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:21:22 -0400 From: <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] new rims new problems !! If it's rubbing on the inside rear wheel well, that's common with large tires. Mine have rubbed off all the undercoating for 3-4" at about the 10:00 position. If it's only rubbing on one side, it's likely a difference in toe-in. More toe-in will cause more rubbing, on both the inner fender, and the outer rear portion of the rear fender. Camber can have an effect also. Chris > Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 13:48:32 EDT > From: Ticalian57@aol.com > Subject: new rims new problems !! > > hi all i have nt checked in here in a while which normally means my car has > been running good but now i just got some 18 x 8.5 hamann's and it seems like > the rear drivers side is rubbing wheel on wheel well while any one in the back > it doesnts seem to me that any other wheels are rubbing what could be the > cause of this ??

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#8. Help: Soft Brake Pedal - from Riley, Scott
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Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:10:38 -0500 From: "Riley, Scott" <sriley@cardinalcapital.com> Subject: Help: Soft Brake Pedal Does anyone know if the E36 M3 has a brake pedal adjustment nut/bolt setup similar to the E30 M3s? I have been battling a soft brake pedal in my I-Stock E36 M3 for quite some time. I've rebuilt the calipers, replaced 2-3 year old SS lines with new SS lines, professionally bled the entire system, using Castrol SRF and still can't fix it. I am now considering replacing the master cylinder and reservoir to see if that helps, but it will cost over $500 in parts alone. Any advice is appreciated. TIA, Scott

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#9. Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:18:33 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area I'm looking for a kart facility in the San Diego area than could handle up to 80 people for a company sponsored event. We are having our unit review there next quarter and would like to do that as a group activity. As usual, thanks in advance. Carey Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area - from Steven Tom
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Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 08:41:45 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area If you are looking for an indoor facility in SD, here's one; http://www.miramarspeedcircuit.com/ I believe corporate rates are around $1000/hr for complete track rental. steve At 10:21 AM 6/18/2004 -0500, Carey Probst wrote: >Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 11:18:33 -0400 >From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> >Subject: Looking for a Kart track in San Diego area > >I'm looking for a kart facility in the San Diego area than could handle up >to 80 people for a company sponsored event. > >We are having our unit review there next quarter and would like to do that >as a group activity. > >As usual, thanks in advance. > >Carey > > > >Carey Probst, '99 M3/2, '86 325e w/i cam >BMW CCA Patroon and Genesee Valley Chapters >JC CAIed and Sharked, Stressed, Schrothed, Gauged, Hitched, X-Braced > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >*************************************************

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