E36M3 #3841

Wednesday, August 04, 2004 16:31:24

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Re: Feeler: Interest in Penny? - from arionatof@comcast.net
#2. Feeler: Interest in Penny? - from Robert Manger
#3. Disable front sway bar? - from Steve Klein
#4. re: European Trip - from AVUSM3@aol.com
#5. Re: Koni Not Nuts - from Mel Silva
#6. Re: Tires - from Gaudio, Stefano
#7. RE: [E36M3] re: European Trip - from Carey Probst
#8. Re: [E36M3] Disable front sway bar? - from Jim Bassett
#9. RE: [E36M3] Spare parts for the track? - from Mel Silva
#10. RE: [E36M3] European Trip - from Murray Roblin

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Re: Feeler: Interest in Penny? - from arionatof@comcast.net
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 19:55:01 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Feeler: Interest in Penny? How many cats do you have :O -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org > I can get 700 lbs of cat litter in the trailer with room for the rest of > the stuff I pick up at the wholesale club.(I don't shop often, but when > I do I buy in quantity)

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#2. Feeler: Interest in Penny? - from Robert Manger
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:58:14 -0400 From: Robert Manger <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Feeler: Interest in Penny? I never want to meet that cat, how big is that thing that it needs 700lbs of litter? = -) Rob - slow day From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Feeler: Interest in Penny? Another solution I've been using to the space problem is a rack which slides in my trailer hitch and adds a lot of storage without resorting to a trailer. For things that don't fit on the hitch rack, then I have the little track trailer I use with either car since both are hitched. You can get a 4x8 trailer for under $300 from Harbour Freight. A lot cheaper than a new car. The Da'Lan hitch adds another $200 including installation if you don't do it yourself. The hitch and trailer are probably cheaper than the Thule setup and a lot more versitle. I can get 700 lbs of cat litter in the trailer with room for the rest of the stuff I pick up at the wholesale club.(I don't shop often, but when I do I buy in quantity) Carey ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail message and any attachments are only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, distribution or other use of this e-mail message or attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.

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#3. Disable front sway bar? - from Steve Klein
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:29:30 -0500 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Disable front sway bar? Hey, Group- The more I amend my front end, the more persistent this noise gets. I've installed Delrin CA bushings (tight fit onto CA) and I thought theCA rotation inside them may be causing it, but doubtful. I've also just replaced the Strut Hats, thinking the worn, original bearings were at fault, but still no go. I've tightened the sway bar links (which I replaced last year), but in the interest of eliminating culprits, is there anything wrong with completely removing the front sway bar and links/brackets so I can test drive and see if that's the source? Thanks, Steve

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#4. re: European Trip - from AVUSM3@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:33:39 EDT From: AVUSM3@aol.com Subject: re: European Trip Chris - I would highly recommend you get to the 'Ring if possible while you are there. It will be an experience that will stick with you for a long time. In order to check the schedule take a look at: _http://www.nuerburgring.de/_ (http://www.nuerburgring.de/) If your german is good you will have no problem finding the open times. :) If your german is not so good (like mine) click on the little yellow arrow on the left hand side of the page next to the picture of the clock. This takes you to the schedule page. Scroll down and you will notice it has the complete list of open times for August. Change the month selector at the bottom and you will get the open times for September. It seems like you are in luck since it is open both the evening of the 7th and the 8th. By the way - if you want to rent something fun to drive on the track I know that Avis Europe used to have a specialty car division that could set you up with some fun rides. They even managed to find me a new 911 to drive while I was there. Good luck, John Cloutier Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:24:44 -0400 From: Chris Conner <chris@digital7.com> Subject: European Trip I am planning a 10 day European trip, for September. A last minute thing. I figure this digest will have a wealth of information! I will be flying into London, and spending ~2 days in the UK. I'd really, really like to get to the Nurburgring. I'd also like to see Amsterdam, and spend 3+ days traveling through Italy. I've been to France, so that is not a priority at all. I will be traveling between countries via air or rail. I would like to rent a car for the Nurburgring. I know it is not open at all times. Is it generally open during weekday evenings? Should I travel via rail or car through Italy? If I end up renting a car in Germany, can I easily drive it down through Switzerland/Italy, and make it a one-way rental, dropping it off in Naples when I fly back to the UK? My rough draft is: Sep 2 - Arrive in London Sep 4 - Fly to Amsterdam Sep 6 - Train To Brussels Sep 7 Train to Bonn, rent car, drive to Nurburg for hopefully open evening drive. Stay in Nurburg or back in Bonn/Cologne. Possibly stay in Nurburg and drive Nurburgring the next day, if I can't make it in time on the 7th. Or even if I do, get another set of laps in. Sep 8 tenatively in Nurburg/Bonn. Drive to Bern, Switzerland. Sep 9 Swiss alps! Sep 10 Swiss alps, then drive/train to Milan Sep 11 Milan -> Tuscany Area Sep 12 Tuscany Area - Naples Sep 13 Fly from Naples to London, then back to the states Any recommendations on places to see, or more specifically an efficient route to take would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance! Chris

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#5. Re: Koni Not Nuts - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 15:49:05 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Koni Not Nuts I found this out a couple of years ago so I wanted to make sure that everyone knows that you can send your SA Koni's to KY (Koni USA) and have the rebuilt as DA's for very reasonable cost (sorry I can't be more specific, it's been a while and those brain cells certainly dead by now). You can contact Koni USA for details http://www.koni-na.com/. Plus I just found this place http://www.tripointengineering.com/Koni/koniCenter.htm that does similar work Spread the wealth I say Mel -----Original Message----- From: Jay W. Hudson [mailto:jwhud@budget.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 8:31 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Koni Top Nuts My DAs, purchased 5/04, have the same hex at the top of the threaded shaft as my old SAs did. You must have the super lightweight version intended for the really fast guys :-) Jay ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. Re: Tires - from Gaudio, Stefano
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:49:48 -0400 From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <Stefano.Gaudio@NERA.com> Subject: Re: Tires Before you take your 712s off go to the local autoX and practice powerslides :) That's what I did when my pilot sports needed replacement. Just make sure your spare is good since my passenger rear lost a few chunks during a powerslide too many and was not drivable. Nothing like knowing you got the most fun out of your tires ;) Stefano '98 M3 currently with MXX3s In reply to... -------------- Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:55:53 -0400 From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Re: Tires Thanks for all the tire suggestions. I ordered a set of PS2s today from Tire Rack, and look forward to treaded street driving in the future (the 712s on the car are almost treadless). Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams -------------- _____________________________________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. _____________________________________________________________

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#7. RE: [E36M3] re: European Trip - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:52:50 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] re: European Trip Plus, they claim to have an English version of the site in August, 2004. See the British flag at the bottom. That will be a big help as my German is less than poor. Carey -----Original Message----- From: AVUSM3@aol.com [mailto:AVUSM3@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 4:41 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] re: European Trip Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:33:39 EDT From: AVUSM3@aol.com Subject: re: European Trip Chris - I would highly recommend you get to the 'Ring if possible while you are there. It will be an experience that will stick with you for a long time. In order to check the schedule take a look at: _http://www.nuerburgring.de/_ (http://www.nuerburgring.de/) If your german is good you will have no problem finding the open times. :) If your german is not so good (like mine) click on the little yellow arrow on the left hand side of the page next to the picture of the clock. This takes you to the schedule page. Scroll down and you will notice it has the complete list of open times for August. Change the month selector at the bottom and you will get the open times for September. It seems like you are in luck since it is open both the evening of the 7th and the 8th. By the way - if you want to rent something fun to drive on the track I know that Avis Europe used to have a specialty car division that could set you up with some fun rides. They even managed to find me a new 911 to drive while I was there. Good luck, John Cloutier Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 15:24:44 -0400 From: Chris Conner <chris@digital7.com> Subject: European Trip I am planning a 10 day European trip, for September. A last minute thing. I figure this digest will have a wealth of information! I will be flying into London, and spending ~2 days in the UK. I'd really, really like to get to the Nurburgring. I'd also like to see Amsterdam, and spend 3+ days traveling through Italy. I've been to France, so that is not a priority at all. I will be traveling between countries via air or rail. I would like to rent a car for the Nurburgring. I know it is not open at all times. Is it generally open during weekday evenings? Should I travel via rail or car through Italy? If I end up renting a car in Germany, can I easily drive it down through Switzerland/Italy, and make it a one-way rental, dropping it off in Naples when I fly back to the UK? My rough draft is: Sep 2 - Arrive in London Sep 4 - Fly to Amsterdam Sep 6 - Train To Brussels Sep 7 Train to Bonn, rent car, drive to Nurburg for hopefully open evening drive. Stay in Nurburg or back in Bonn/Cologne. Possibly stay in Nurburg and drive Nurburgring the next day, if I can't make it in time on the 7th. Or even if I do, get another set of laps in. Sep 8 tenatively in Nurburg/Bonn. Drive to Bern, Switzerland. Sep 9 Swiss alps! Sep 10 Swiss alps, then drive/train to Milan Sep 11 Milan -> Tuscany Area Sep 12 Tuscany Area - Naples Sep 13 Fly from Naples to London, then back to the states Any recommendations on places to see, or more specifically an efficient route to take would be most appreciated. Thanks in advance! Chris ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Disable front sway bar? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2004 13:57:15 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Disable front sway bar? At 01:31 PM 8/4/04, Steve Klein wrote: > I've tightened the sway bar links (which I replaced last year), > but in the interest of eliminating culprits, is there anything wrong with > completely removing the front sway bar and links/brackets so I can test > drive and see if that's the source? Nothing wrong with that, just beware the oversteer. Jim Bassett

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Spare parts for the track? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 16:19:42 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Spare parts for the track? Basically without getting all crazy and changing the whole brake system to AN (Army/Navy) fittings (this is an option for the clinically insane) what you do is convert your existing system to AN-3 by using adapters. In our case 10mm to AN-3 adapters. You need two for each brake line. These are usually only available in steel which is good, don't use aluminum if you find them. So, once that is done you get 2 AN-3 hose ends and some Teflon braided line for each brake line you intend to make. This is how I always have spares, and can find parts at any racetrack from almost any vendor. AN-3 is common at the racetrack while 10mm x 1.0mm is not. #3 Teflon braided line is also common at the track. I like to use either Aeroquip or Earls and get all that stuff at http://www.racerpartswholesale.com/ whom I have used for years and have always had good service. Mel PS> Penny does not have braided line on her. Yet... -----Original Message----- From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com [mailto:Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2004 12:31 PM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Spare parts for the track? Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 13:32:37 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Spare parts for the track? >-I make my own brake lines so I always have an extra set with me. it's not >very likely that they will explode and fail, but more likely that they will >abrade against the tires or something and just loose pressure. Ooh I'd like to hear more about that. I know it's probably some huge liability especially in this country to sell a car with your own homemade brake lines but I'd be interested in finding out what connectors, stainless braided line, you prefer to make your own. An engineer friend always wanted to do it but to my knowledge he never has, he always thought the crimped ones were crap. I'm sure the crimping is some sort of DOT/TUV requirement, maybe not I'm rambling here. Option two is have someone down in Gasoline Alley (Indy) make up a custom set. Yeah regular spares I always take with me like you said, water, oil, pads, plugs, caliper rebuild kits, etc. Never thought about radiator caps, oil filler caps, but belts yeah I remember I usually carry these but never needed them as I keep fresh belts on my cars, I did break a sway bar link once and luckily I brought a set of stock ones with me. Thanks! Carlos. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. RE: [E36M3] European Trip - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 14:25:19 -0700 From: "Murray Roblin" <murray@farleyroblin.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] European Trip Chris spracht: I am planning a 10 day European trip, for September. A last minute thing. I figure this digest will have a wealth of information! I will be flying into London, and spending ~2 days in the UK. I'd really, really like to get to the Nurburgring. I'd also like to see Amsterdam, and spend 3+ days traveling through Italy. I've been to France, so that is not a priority at all. I will be traveling between countries via air or rail. I would like to rent a car for the Nurburgring. I know it is not open at all times. Is it generally open during weekday evenings? Should I travel via rail or car through Italy? If I end up renting a car in Germany, can I easily drive it down through Switzerland/Italy, and make it a one-way rental, dropping it off in Naples when I fly back to the UK? My rough draft is: Sep 2 - Arrive in London Sep 4 - Fly to Amsterdam Sep 6 - Train To Brussels Sep 7 Train to Bonn, rent car, drive to Nurburg for hopefully open evening drive. Stay in Nurburg or back in Bonn/Cologne. Possibly stay in Nurburg and drive Nurburgring the next day, if I can't make it in time on the 7th. Or even if I do, get another set of laps in. Sep 8 tenatively in Nurburg/Bonn. Drive to Bern, Switzerland. Sep 9 Swiss alps! Sep 10 Swiss alps, then drive/train to Milan Sep 11 Milan -> Tuscany Area Sep 12 Tuscany Area - Naples Sep 13 Fly from Naples to London, then back to the states Murray responds: I've spent a bit of time working in Tuscany and offer the following comments: Your schedule seems aggressive, especially in Italy. You really won't have time to experience Italy if you're driving/training all day. Italy is best enjoyed strolling around the town, eating, and drinking and eating and .... I might suggest that you skip Milan and Naples, and travel directly from Switzerland to Florence or Rome and spend a few days there. I like Rome more, as it has a great energy and amazing antiquities. I've spent too much time in Florence. Milan is a great city, but it is a commerce center, large and sprawling and tough to get a handle on. I've heard people compare it to L.A. Unless you have business there or want to shop, I'd skip it. As an alternative, you could take a train from Switzerland to Innsbruck and then head due south through the Dolomites to Florence. -Train from Zurich to Milan is spectacular. Haven't driven it, but I bet it's awesome as well. -Driving in Italy is fun when you're on the open road or in small towns. It's very exciting in big towns. If you're touring around a larger town, it's much easier to take a cab than to futz with a car. Parking in larger towns (and smaller towns as well) can be v. ugly. -It's much easier to see small towns via automobile than via train, however, -I think that express train travel may trump autos between large cities. -Theft from vehicles is an issue for rental cars in Italy - never leave anything in your car, even in the trunk. -The train from Milan to Tuscany (where? - Florence?) can take a long time, check the schedules and make sure you have a seat reservation, especially on a weekend. Get the reservation several days in advance, maybe longer for a weekend. Many say that 2nd class train travel is fine, but on a crowded train, it sucks. Go with 1st. I might choose to drive this section. -I've only gone as far south as Rome, and the drive from Florence to Rome was fine, though traffic was very heavy. -Speeding fines can be levied on the spot, so if you speed, have some cash. -Don't drink and drive - it's a big deal in Italy. -The autostradas use photo radar, so you can get nicked that way. I usually drove pretty fast, but never had a problem. There was almost always a big Benz or BMW that when blowing by me. You can email me offlist if you want some more info. Happy travels, Murray

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