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#1. fault codes - from driver8 ///M3
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:32:05 -0700 (PDT) From: driver8 ///M3 <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: fault codes i keep getting these same faults codes over and over: FE and FC any ideas what they mean...and how to fix? i have an emissions test due soon. last time i went i cleared the codes before i went and they wouldnt do the test...they said the car hadnt been driven enough since it was cleared (i said i had just been to the dealer for service). they said i need about a weeks worth of driving (i'm guessing 200-400 miles) for them to do the test, but the CE light keeps coming on before i can get enough miles and have time to get to the emissions place. thanks, russell
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#2. vibration on braking - from driver8 ///M3
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 07:36:49 -0700 (PDT) From: driver8 ///M3 <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: vibration on braking i had asked before about this issue and got a few responses. sometimes, but not always, i get pretty severe steering wheel vibration on braking. i had taken the wheels off and looked at the brakes, and everything looked ok. plus it was really strange how it didnt always happen. well, today i finally figured out what it is (sort of). i noticed that if i dont turn the traction control (ACS) off, i dont get the vibration. but if i DO turn it off, the vibration returns. i have no idea WHY this happens, but at least i know how to avoid it. russell dakar 99
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#3. Re: For those with TCKline rear coilover height adjusters - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:43:02 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: For those with TCKline rear coilover height adjusters on 8/12/04 9:22 AM, Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does the adjuster come with a bolt and washer to secure to the upper control > arm? The adjuster has a threaded central hole that can be used for your own bolt if you choose to place the adjuster beneath rather than above the spring. As an experiment I've tried it with the bolt, and there's a catch. If you use the stock rubber spring pads (I do), then when the car's weight rests on the springs it compresses the pads and releases tension on the bolt. Of course the bolt would still serve to retain the adjuster assembly, but if you needed that you could more easily use a zip-tie. However TCK matches the spring length to the shocks so that at full droop there's still spring tension. Nothing's going to fall out. It's really not necessary to use a retaining bolt at all. Similarly, although there's a threaded hole in the rear height adjuster collar for a set screw, it turns out that the collar doesn't move in use so locking it isn't necessary. Neil
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#4. RE: [E36M3] RE: Re.- Timing chain/valve question - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:44:17 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <jhowton@fotofab.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: Re.- Timing chain/valve question Eric, Your primary timing chain tensioner _might_ be causing this, it's easy to change out. Take a look at: http://www.unofficialbmw.com/e36/engine/e36_timing_chain_tensioner.html Regards Jamie Howton
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#5. Re: Painting Brake Calipers - from Neil Maller
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:05:47 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Painting Brake Calipers I decided to try a two-part epoxy caliper paint system from Tire Rack, see: http://www.tirerack.com/brakes/g2/caliper_paint.jsp The blurb says it's good to 950F, which means the coating should survive track temperatures, including radiated heat from the rotors. Gee, it was so tempting to go with bright yellow or maybe purple, but in the end I ordered basic black. I hope to get this done before the next track weekend (Labor Day at Mid Ohio), and I'll post about how it works out. Neil 96 M3
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#6. Re: [E36M3] fault codes - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:10:54 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] fault codes At 07:32 AM 8/12/04, driver8 ///M3 wrote: >i keep getting these same faults codes over and over: > >FE and FC > >any ideas what they mean... (I'm assuming you have a 96+ M3, since those codes aren't listed on the chart for a 95 M3.) FE = EVAP large leak detected FC = EVAP incorrect purge flow >and how to fix? Sorry, can't help there, but it is definitely emissions related. I would suggest consulting a good independent BMW mechanic in your area. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett
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#7. Re: [E36M3] fault codes - from driver8 ///M3
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT) From: driver8 ///M3 <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] fault codes jim, yes, i should have mentioned that its a 99 M3. as someone else mentioned that it might be gas cap related, i have noticed that the gas cap doesnt appear to have a tight fit any more. maybe i'll pick up a new one today. cant hurt. thanks! russell dakar 99 --- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > At 07:32 AM 8/12/04, driver8 ///M3 wrote: > >i keep getting these same faults codes over and over: > > > >FE and FC > > > >any ideas what they mean... > > (I'm assuming you have a 96+ M3, since those codes aren't listed on the > chart for a 95 M3.) > > FE = EVAP large leak detected > FC = EVAP incorrect purge flow > > >and how to fix? > > Sorry, can't help there, but it is definitely emissions related. I would > > suggest consulting a good independent BMW mechanic in your area. > > Hope that helps, > Jim Bassett >
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#8. Re: [E36M3] fault codes - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:58:24 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] fault codes A loose fit on the gas cap will throw the CE light on. Mine wasn't defective and was not on tight. 10 miles after the gas station the light came on. With the FC reader I was able to identify the problem. -> Me, not tightening the gas cap. DOH!!! Kent driver8 ///M3 wrote: >Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:14:19 -0700 (PDT) >From: driver8 ///M3 <driver8m3@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] fault codes > >jim, > >yes, i should have mentioned that its a 99 M3. > >as someone else mentioned that it might be gas cap related, i have noticed >that the gas cap doesnt appear to have a tight fit any more. maybe i'll >pick up a new one today. cant hurt. > >thanks! > >russell >dakar 99 > > >--- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > > >>At 07:32 AM 8/12/04, driver8 ///M3 wrote: >> >> >>>i keep getting these same faults codes over and over: >>> >>>FE and FC >>> >>>any ideas what they mean... >>> >>> >>(I'm assuming you have a 96+ M3, since those codes aren't listed on the >>chart for a 95 M3.) >> >>FE = EVAP large leak detected >>FC = EVAP incorrect purge flow >> >> >> >>>and how to fix? >>> >>> >>Sorry, can't help there, but it is definitely emissions related. I would >> >>suggest consulting a good independent BMW mechanic in your area. >> >>Hope that helps, >>Jim Bassett >> >> >> > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." 1918, Theodore Roosevelt
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#9. Re.- Timing chain/valve question - from Chris Blumenthal
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:20:52 -0700 From: "Chris Blumenthal" <blumenthal@aechelon.com> Subject: Re.- Timing chain/valve question Eric, your description does sound like the lower timing chain. Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe unless you have broken chain guide rail or tensioner (the plastic piece that actually pushes on the chain...), it would be unlikely for the chain to be hitting the cover or block- so you are probably not damaging your motor. Since you have a '95, unless you have previously changed the tensioner, you probably have the old style. There is an updated version (p/n 11 31 1 405 081). Chris > > -------------------- 10 -------------------- > Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 10:11:17 -0400 > From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> > Subject: RE: Re.- Timing chain/valve question > > Chris, > Thank you for the reply. I did a little more research last > night, and might have to change my conclusion. There is a > small tick at > idle that is noticeable on the "timing cover" (can't think of a better > word for it). When accelerating, that noise gets noticeably > louder and > it almost feels like the chain is hitting the inside of that > cover. On > deaccel, the noise is loud and I -can- feel something tapping against > the inside of that cover. Again, not marbles in a tin can, > more like a > loud, hollow knocking inside of that cover. It's hard to tell exactly > where that noise is coming from, however. It almost feels like the > tapping is coming from the front of the engine, not on top. Difficult > to tell. > > Maybe start with the lower chain tensioner and then go from there? > > Also, how safe is the car to drive with this condition? Am I doing > damage by running the engine? > > Thanks! > - Eric >
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re.- Timing chain/valve question - from Chris Blumenthal
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Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 16:29:53 -0700 From: "Chris Blumenthal" <blumenthal@aechelon.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re.- Timing chain/valve question Tom, regrettably, the work was not done under warranty. It was done long after expiration of the warranty by an independent shop on the central CA coast near where I live. The cost was about $1400 labor and $300 parts for the timing chain replacement; replaced all associated parts, including sprockets, guiderails, etc. The VANOS replacement was $360 labor and $375 parts (VANOS unit and upper chain tensioner). It is possible that the labor would have been a bit less if I had had both jobs done at the same time, but I don't think there is a lot of overlap in the work. I believe the shop rate is $90/hr, and the parts prices were BMW list, less 10% club discount... no doubt, could have been had for less if I had shopped around. I don't like to carry in parts to the shop, except for big ticket items where shopping around makes a significant difference in the bottom line for a job. Chris > -----Original Message----- > From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:kjtar@earthlink.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 2:58 PM > To: Chris Blumenthal; E36M3 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re.- Timing chain/valve question > > > Chris, > If you don't mind, could you tell us what it cost to > fix the timing > chain, tensioner, and VANOS unit? Was it in warranty? > Thanks, > Tom Reynolds > Hereford, AZ >