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#1. It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from Rex Tener
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:35:19 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) At 03:09 PM 8/17/2004 -0700, Rex Tener wrote: >The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell: > > ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486820048&> > >I predicted to my wife it would be bid to $30K, I was only off my a >hundred bucks. It is back: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2487504461 It has a Buy It Now of $43K. >:-0 -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Low brake pedal - from Chris Turrisi
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:31:42 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low brake pedal Steve, I have been battling this same issue with my 1992, 325 JP car for the last 6 months, which has 105k miles on it.....I will give you a running list of what I have changed/replaced and why and its result... 1. Rebuilt all 4 brake calipers.....no change in pedal feel. The rear outer dust boot was torn, and I rebuild my calipers every winter with BMW parts. The calipers where not seized and had minimal if any corrosion for 100k miles on them. 2. Switched from Hawk HT-10 front and Blues rear to PF pads front and rear...no change in pedal feel. Some people thought that I might have pad deposits on the rotors. 3. Replaced all four rotors....slight change in pedal feel. This was suggested by the head of motorsports engineer for Performance Friction. He said that slightly out of round rotors, will/could cause caliper piston knock back. Basically, the "warped" rotors will push the caliper piston back and it takes the first pedal press to "reseat" the pistons and the second pedal to apply the brakes. 4. Changed both front wheel bearings and one rear wheel bearing....slight improvement in pedal feel. This was also suggested by the engineer at Performance Friction and the improvement was due to one really bad front wheel bearing and one almost bad front wheel bearing. 4. Replaced the master cylinder....slight change in pedal feel. This was suggested by Brett A, Sterling BMW in VA's master tech and Bentley book. The pedal got better but still not hard like it was when I bought the car in Feb 2002. 5. Replaced the ABS pump....no change in pedal feel. This had fixed the same problem that I have in another list members car; but did nothing for mine. 6. Replaced the vacuum booster....no change to slightly worse pedal feel (might be imagination) but definitely not better. Replaced it because it was the last piece in the system. All of the brake lines are new stainless lines and I am not losing fluid from anywhere.... My next move is to leave the pressure bleeder on over night to see if there might be a pinhole leak someplace. and then my next move is to install an M3 master cylinder and my spare M3 calipers. I have asked every BMW tech or racer that I can get my hands on and every email list that I am on, and no one has been able to solve my problem. Hope you have better luck than I do , and if you find a fix, please tell me about it.......it is getting really tiring and a little scary trying to race with a spongy brake pedal. - Chris At 09:53 AM 8/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:46:07 -0400 >From: "Steve Hazard" <SHazard@nhboston.com> >Subject: Low brake pedal > >I have a problem! > >I've been throwing $ at my low brake pedal and it still is not fixed. TMS >has bled the brakes multiple times, replaced the Master cylinder and still >the pedal is really low. Also the pedal feedback under hard braking is >kind of numb...... > >If the car is running and I pump the pedal once the pedal will return to >the proper place and have a really nice firm feel to it. If I just go to >use the brakes the pedal will go almost to the floor before firming up.... > >What do you all think it is? And what should I throw money at next? > >TIA, >Steve > > > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >*************************************************
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Low brake pedal - from Tom Melton
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Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 22:38:39 -0400 From: "Tom Melton" <Tom_Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low brake pedal Chris/Steve, Just curious, do you get a firm pedal after a single stroke of the pedal? If so, what happens if you simply let the car sit for say an hour and re-stroke the pedal, still firm? If so, keep extending the time by an hour or so (two hours, three hours). If still firm, then it is something related to movement. If related to movement, something is causing piston knockback, either out of spec rotors, or bearing, etc. I know you said you replaced both, but... Lastly, my bet is simply rotor runout. This can be a major problem on 63-82 Vettes, that have fixed calipers and fixed rotors. The only thing that moves on those is the pistons and pads. If there is hardly any runout of the rotor, instant long pedal. I know your car should have floating calipers, but, the problem can be the same, as the piston may get knocked back before the heavy mass of the caliper can move... Let me know what you find after an hour. -Tom >>> Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> 08/19/04 09:43PM >>> Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 21:31:42 -0400 From: Chris Turrisi <cturrisi@worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Low brake pedal Steve, I have been battling this same issue with my 1992, 325 JP car for the last 6 months, which has 105k miles on it.....I will give you a running list of what I have changed/replaced and why and its result... 1. Rebuilt all 4 brake calipers.....no change in pedal feel. The rear outer dust boot was torn, and I rebuild my calipers every winter with BMW parts. The calipers where not seized and had minimal if any corrosion for 100k miles on them. 2. Switched from Hawk HT-10 front and Blues rear to PF pads front and rear...no change in pedal feel. Some people thought that I might have pad deposits on the rotors. 3. Replaced all four rotors....slight change in pedal feel. This was suggested by the head of motorsports engineer for Performance Friction. He said that slightly out of round rotors, will/could cause caliper piston knock back. Basically, the "warped" rotors will push the caliper piston back and it takes the first pedal press to "reseat" the pistons and the second pedal to apply the brakes. 4. Changed both front wheel bearings and one rear wheel bearing....slight improvement in pedal feel. This was also suggested by the engineer at Performance Friction and the improvement was due to one really bad front wheel bearing and one almost bad front wheel bearing. 4. Replaced the master cylinder....slight change in pedal feel. This was suggested by Brett A, Sterling BMW in VA's master tech and Bentley book. The pedal got better but still not hard like it was when I bought the car in Feb 2002. 5. Replaced the ABS pump....no change in pedal feel. This had fixed the same problem that I have in another list members car; but did nothing for mine. 6. Replaced the vacuum booster....no change to slightly worse pedal feel (might be imagination) but definitely not better. Replaced it because it was the last piece in the system. All of the brake lines are new stainless lines and I am not losing fluid from anywhere.... My next move is to leave the pressure bleeder on over night to see if there might be a pinhole leak someplace. and then my next move is to install an M3 master cylinder and my spare M3 calipers. I have asked every BMW tech or racer that I can get my hands on and every email list that I am on, and no one has been able to solve my problem. Hope you have better luck than I do , and if you find a fix, please tell me about it.......it is getting really tiring and a little scary trying to race with a spongy brake pedal. - Chris At 09:53 AM 8/18/2004 -0500, you wrote: >Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:46:07 -0400 >From: "Steve Hazard" <SHazard@nhboston.com> >Subject: Low brake pedal > >I have a problem! > >I've been throwing $ at my low brake pedal and it still is not fixed. TMS >has bled the brakes multiple times, replaced the Master cylinder and still >the pedal is really low. Also the pedal feedback under hard braking is >kind of numb...... > >If the car is running and I pump the pedal once the pedal will return to >the proper place and have a really nice firm feel to it. If I just go to >use the brakes the pedal will go almost to the floor before firming up.... > >What do you all think it is? And what should I throw money at next? > >TIA, >Steve > > > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. 245/35-18 Tires - from Lew Becker
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 06:50:54 -0700 From: "Lew Becker" <lmb_cfls@sbcglobal.net> Subject: 245/35-18 Tires I've been running 18x8.5 BBS RC's with 245/35's on my slightly lowered (Dinan Stage 3) car for years without any problems (and no fender rolling). The Toyo's fit (I ran through a set), and so do Goodyear F1's (which I'm running now, and like a lot more than the Toyo's). Lew Becker -----Original Message----- -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:22:52 -0400 From: "geoff atkinson" <pskalc@hotmail.com> Subject: 245/35-18 Tires Hi everyone, I'm in the market for some new tires for my '95. These will be mounted on the wheels that came with the car, because I don't really want to invest in another new set...for now. The wheels are 18"x8" BBS RX's. Now, the tire size I'm looking at is 245/35/18. Good idea? Anyone done this? I found this size in a Toyo T1-S. I have decided against 225/40/18 (too narrow), 235/40/18 (too tall), and 255/40/18 (too wide and too tall, right? anyone using this?) The rear fenders are rolled somewhat. So, what's the general feelling on this... Rubbing? Good size, or not? Thanks for any help, in advance. -Geoff Atkinson
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#5. re: - from The Buch
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 07:39:58 -0700 From: The Buch <the_buch@telus.net> Subject: re: Geoff ... I run Goodyear F1s in this size with my ACS Type 3 18 X 8.5s using a 7mm spacer front and back to compensate for the 39mm offset of these particular wheels and my slightly lowered ( H&R OE ) suspension, and for the excellent stance this gives the car ... I have no clearance or rubbing at all ... I like the Goodyears for comfort and rain handling, and they do not tramline anything like the S-03s I had before, but I will probably try the Toyos next time ... a non-staggered setup has several key advantages and you will love the improvement in overall balance of the car. Regards, Doug Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 16:22:52 -0400 From: "geoff atkinson" <pskalc@hotmail.com> Subject: 245/35-18 Tires Hi everyone, I'm in the market for some new tires for my '95. These will be mounted on the wheels that came with the car, because I don't really want to invest in another new set...for now. The wheels are 18"x8" BBS RX's. Now, the tire size I'm looking at is 245/35/18. Good idea? Anyone done this? I found this size in a Toyo T1-S. I have decided against 225/40/18 (too narrow), 235/40/18 (too tall), and 255/40/18 (too wide and too tall, right? anyone using this?) The rear fenders are rolled somewhat. So, what's the general feelling on this... Rubbing? Good size, or not? Thanks for any help, in advance. -Geoff Atkinson
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#6. Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from Jason Knight
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) Has it already been duly noted that this one has the EXTREMELY RARE L6 engine? Surely such a unique vehicle is worth $40k+! Jason --- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:35:19 -0700 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay > didn't sell) > > At 03:09 PM 8/17/2004 -0700, Rex Tener wrote: > >The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell: > > > > > ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2486820048&> > > > >I predicted to my wife it would be bid to $30K, I > was only off my a > >hundred bucks. > > It is back: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2487504461 > > It has a Buy It Now of $43K. >:-0 > > -- > Rex Tener > rex_tener@yahoo.com > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#7. RE: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:54:39 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) Also, from the pictures it appears that the 5 pt. harnesses were installed incorrectly. There does not appear to be a cut in the seats which would indicate they have been routed around the front. Maybe the owner sings soprano now and that's why he's selling? Carey -----Original Message----- From: Jason Knight [mailto:knight2244@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:24 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 08:18:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) Has it already been duly noted that this one has the EXTREMELY RARE L6 engine? Surely such a unique vehicle is worth $40k+! Jason --- Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:35:19 -0700 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay > didn't sell) > > At 03:09 PM 8/17/2004 -0700, Rex Tener wrote: > >The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell: > > > > > ><http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=24868200 48&> > > > >I predicted to my wife it would be bid to $30K, I > was only off my a > >hundred bucks. > > It is back: > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2487504461 > > It has a Buy It Now of $43K. >:-0 > > -- > Rex Tener > rex_tener@yahoo.com > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:54 -0400 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) Jason, I will argue L6 is the correct designation. It stands for inLine 6. L is the common way to designate a straight inline arrangement of cylinders. V is the other common designation used for V type arrangement of cylinders. There is also the Mazda rotary engine and Porsche horizontally opposed "Boxter" engine. I don't know what the common designation for them. And Volkswagen has come out with that 1000 hp W16 engine that is two V engines connected to the same crankshaft. Describing the valve arrangement is another matter. You have OHV = overhead valve, SOHC = single overhead camshaft, DOHC = dual overhead camshaft. So shorthand for the E36 M3 motor would be "L6 DOHC" Lowell Seaton '95 M3 -------------------------------- Jason writes: Has it already been duly noted that this one has the EXTREMELY RARE L6 engine? Surely such a unique vehicle is worth $40k+! Jason
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#9. Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from treehouse@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:12:04 -0500 From: <treehouse@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) <LoweSeaton@aol.com> >L is the common way to designate a straight inline arrangement of cylinders Huh? I think "i" is the letter your looking for. As in; i4 or i6 also in caps; I4 or I6. Stands for Inline. Right? Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi TreehouseRacing.com - Home of the Eyeball Arm M50conversion.com Noble M12 Installation Site 615.500.1331 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: <LoweSeaton@aol.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:54 -0400 > From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) > > Jason, > > I will argue L6 is the correct designation. It stands for inLine 6. L is the common way to designate a straight inline arrangement of cylinders. V is the other common designation used for V type arrangement of cylinders. There is also the Mazda rotary engine and Porsche horizontally opposed "Boxter" engine. I don't know what the common designation for them. And Volkswagen has come out with that 1000 hp W16 engine that is two V engines connected to the same crankshaft. > > Describing the valve arrangement is another matter. You have OHV = overhead valve, SOHC = single overhead camshaft, DOHC = dual overhead camshaft. > > So shorthand for the E36 M3 motor would be "L6 DOHC" > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3 > -------------------------------- > Jason writes: > > Has it already been duly noted that this one has the > EXTREMELY RARE L6 engine? Surely such a unique > vehicle is worth $40k+! > > Jason > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from gobuffs93@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 17:54:17 +0000 From: gobuffs93@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) I have to agree with Lowell...I usually see it referred to as L6 not I6. Bruce -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:12:04 -0500 > From: > Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) > > > >L is the common way to designate a straight inline arrangement of cylinders > > Huh? I think "i" is the letter your looking for. As in; i4 or i6 also in > caps; I4 or I6. > > Stands for Inline. > > Right? > > Jon > ______________________________________________ > > Jon Siccardi > TreehouseRacing.com - Home of the Eyeball Arm > M50conversion.com > Noble M12 Installation Site > 615.500.1331 > ______________________________________________ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "E36M3" > Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 11:43 AM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) > > > > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:54 -0400 > > From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) > > > > Jason, > > > > I will argue L6 is the correct designation. It stands for inLine 6. L is > the common way to designate a straight inline arrangement of cylinders. V > is the other common designation used for V type arrangement of cylinders. > There is also the Mazda rotary engine and Porsche horizontally opposed > "Boxter" engine. I don't know what the common designation for them. And > Volkswagen has come out with that 1000 hp W16 engine that is two V engines > connected to the same crankshaft. > > > > Describing the valve arrangement is another matter. You have OHV = > overhead valve, SOHC = single overhead camshaft, DOHC = dual overhead > camshaft. > > > > So shorthand for the E36 M3 motor would be "L6 DOHC" > > > > Lowell Seaton > > '95 M3 > > -------------------------------- > > Jason writes: > > > > Has it already been duly noted that this one has the > > EXTREMELY RARE L6 engine? Surely such a unique > > vehicle is worth $40k+! > > > > Jason > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >