E36M3 #3941

Sunday, October 03, 2004 12:16:48

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
#2. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from Chester Wong
#3. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from Kent L. Shephard
#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from Chester Wong
#5. Re: [E36M3] OBD II Scan tool - from Jamie Howton
#6. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 prices vs. E30M3s - from Boen168@aol.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] Kudos to James and BimmerWorld - from Chris Papademetrious
#8. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 prices vs. E30M3s - from Rex Tener
#9. E36 Euro free form headlight? - from Travis Hale
#10. Re: Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from John Firestone

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 16:31:06 -0400 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? Chester says: Yes, it's not too difficult. I actually have a complete new kit sitting in my basement. --------------------------- :-) Hey Chester! If it is not that difficult, why is it still sitting in your basement? I admit I have NOT done the coupe rear window power opener upgrade. But last I heard, it is not super easy or cheap. Don't you have to fish a few wires under the carpet and up to the windows? And I thought the cost is over $500? I personally have only seen one coupe with the power windows and it was a European delivery so they might have been factory installed. Another tempting option is adding power lumbar support to the Darth Vader seats. But once again, I gave up when I heard how much trouble and expense they are. I don't have heated seats so there is added work to get power to the seats. Lowell Seaton '95 M3

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? --- LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > :-) Hey Chester! If it is not that difficult, why is it still sitting in > your basement? Haha. We did the retrofit in Wayne's E36M3 before he totalled it ;) I had another kit lying around because someone said he wanted it, I ordered it, and then he wrecked his car. Ugh. I don't usually have a thought, "Man, I wish I could open the rear windows," so I haven't installed it on my car. > I admit I have NOT done the coupe rear window power opener upgrade. But last > I heard, it is not super easy or cheap. Don't you have to fish a few wires > under the carpet and up to the windows? And I thought the cost is over $500? > I personally have only seen one coupe with the power windows and it was a > European delivery so they might have been factory installed. Well, it's not as easy as changing oil, but then again, I consider things like replacing the VANOS, changing the head gasket, installing a LTW flywheel as pretty easy :) Tee-hee. Once you remove the driver side seat, and remove the door sill cover thing, the carpet lifts out readily ;) Ok, ok...maybe it isn't that easy. I'll just go back to the Elise and deal with the minimalist car ;) Chester =====

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 2004 14:12:49 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? Hey, I'm not one of those that gets scared too easy. On previous cars I've owned, I've done everything from engine tear downs to clutch jobs to water pumps to fuel injectors. I would view this as easy if the motors and hardware are available. Expense is another story. Kent Chester Wong wrote: >Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:38:29 -0700 (PDT) >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? > > >--- LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > > >>:-) Hey Chester! If it is not that difficult, why is it still sitting in >>your basement? >> >> > >Haha. We did the retrofit in Wayne's E36M3 before he totalled it ;) I had >another kit lying around because someone said he wanted it, I ordered it, and >then he wrecked his car. Ugh. I don't usually have a thought, "Man, I wish I >could open the rear windows," so I haven't installed it on my car. > > > > > -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." 1918, Theodore Roosevelt

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:31:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? That's a good attitude! I have to find out how much I paid for all this stuff. Everything is included including the little trim pieces you push onto the side panels in the back to make the exit of the cables all nice and purty. Chester --- "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> wrote: > Hey, > > I'm not one of those that gets scared too easy. > On previous cars I've owned, I've done everything from engine tear downs > to clutch jobs to water pumps to fuel injectors. > > I would view this as easy if the motors and hardware are available. > Expense is another story. > > Kent =====

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#5. Re: [E36M3] OBD II Scan tool - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 09:48:10 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OBD II Scan tool I have the autoenginuity scan tool and am very happy with it for the most part. It has worked well on my 330i, F250 and Focus. I wish it worked with my 95 M3. I have used it to read error codes and reset the check engine light without major issue. It did read out some kind of incorrect Pcode from my 330i as well as the codes that meant something, the code was P7400 which isn't a BMW code (according to BMW). It didn't prevent me from diagnosing my problem, however. I haven't tried the "dyno" software out although I did download it. No major problems to report, I am a satisfied customer. Regards Jamie Howton

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#6. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 prices vs. E30M3s - from Boen168@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 11:53:32 EDT From: Boen168@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 prices vs. E30M3s I guess a lot has to do with the condition of the cars. Excellent, clean, original E30M3s in So. California with mileages over 100K still command premium prices in the $15K to $17K region. I purchased my 107K miler '88 M3 in '98 for $13.5K from its original owner with full history, keys, window sticker, bill of sale, gas purchases log books etc and have been recently offered $18K plus for it, now with 131K miles.. No, I ain't selling. The E30M3 is a car I always wanted after seeing my first one in '87 but could not afford the $35K sticker at the time. Regards, David '88 M3 '95 M3 '90 325i shopping cart car In a message dated 10/1/2004 1:38:22 PM Pacific Standard Time, e36m3@bmw-m.net writes: As a previous owner of an E30 M3 a good clean E30 won't fetch $17-18K unless it's also low miles. 1988 models with no real problems go for about $8K-10K. Add about $1-2K for newer years/year. Some colors are less desirable than others. White cars with black interior were track cars for some driving schools and got really beat. There were a total of about 14K cars build over the five year life from 1987-1991. All were hand build and all had engines that were build by maybe two technician from start to finish.

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Kudos to James and BimmerWorld - from Chris Papademetrious
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 13:07:10 -0400 From: Chris Papademetrious <chrispy@ieee.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Kudos to James and BimmerWorld Mel Silva wrote: > I also wanted to take the time to publicly say that James Clay and > BimmerWorld are a top notch outfit and we are lucky to have them not only as > sponsors, but as actual participants on the list. Mel, it's funny you posted this, as I was about to do the very same thing. I bought a set of BBS RK wheels through him to combine with a set that I already had. Through my own error, I came to find out that the offsets of the two sets of wheels didn't match. James has been very helpful in going the extra mile to get me squared away. His attention to my situation has been personal and outstanding. It's good to have him on our team. - Chris

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#8. Re: [E36M3] E36M3 prices vs. E30M3s - from Rex Tener
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Date: Sat, 02 Oct 2004 10:46:13 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E36M3 prices vs. E30M3s At 10:56 AM 10/2/2004 -0500, Boen168@aol.com wrote: >I guess a lot has to do with the condition of the cars. Excellent, clean, >original E30M3s in So. California with mileages over 100K still command >premium >prices in the $15K to $17K region. Yes, and location has a lot to do with it too. I call it the M car California tax, the ten to twenty percent more that M cars sell for here over what they sell for in the rest of the country. Rex

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#9. E36 Euro free form headlight? - from Travis Hale
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 00:53:14 -0500 From: Travis Hale <TravisHale@gmail.com> Subject: E36 Euro free form headlight? I have these on my m3 and have been thinking about switching to a HID setup. This means i'll need projectors to go along with them. Anyway, i've never really seen the euro free form lights anywere else and most people have no idea what i'm talking about when i mention them. The question i have is do they have any value? Will I be able to sell them to help cover the cost of new headlights? I'm hopeing some people on here have atleast heard of them.

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#10. Re: Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? - from John Firestone
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Date: Sun, 3 Oct 2004 19:09:40 +0200 (CEST) From: John Firestone <johnf@freenet.de> Subject: Re: Rear Window Conversion (manual to Euro Power)? I installed the electric vent window kit after the car was about a month, as a project of opportunity while I was restoring the car's rear fog lights. As Chester writes, it isn't hard just a bit tedious as you have to pull up the driver's side carpet and add to the rat's nest in the fusebox while you are laying and hooking up the wiring harnesses. Since I had to get under the carpet and into the fusebox for the rear foglights, the vent windows were not much more work. I have since added a couple modified Autoloc window modules, ganged both rear windows on one switch, added made them one-touch open and close. I find I use them quite a bit more as I no longer have to press and hold one switch then the other for 8 + 8 = 16s. -John '96 318is

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