E36M3 #3946

Thursday, October 07, 2004 11:46:23

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#1. Re: E36 Euro free form headlights - from John Firestone
#2. Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window - from John Firestone
#3. Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window - from arionatof@comcast.net
#4. Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from Jason Knight
#5. Need O2 sensor - from Mdriver13@aol.com
#6. RE: [E36M3] Need O2 sensor - from Jim Bassett
#7. Re: [E36M3] Need O2 sensor - from marty
#8. Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" - from twisty M3
#9. RE: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" - from Mount, Mike
#10. Re: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" - from LoweSeaton@aol.com

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#1. Re: E36 Euro free form headlights - from John Firestone
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:04:10 +0200 (CEST) From: John Firestone <johnf@freenet.de> Subject: Re: E36 Euro free form headlights On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 Boen168@aol.com wrote: > Yes, these are made by ZKW and as I understand it, became available > after 1996 in Germany. Came standard on some E36s, option on some > others. These are BMW lights but don't have the part #s per se.... I am confused. If the lights don't have BMW part numbers, how can they be BMW parts? :) I don't recall you ever had a choice of headlights when ordering a German E36, but I could be wrong. It was something few people would have worried about. -John '96 318is

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#2. Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window - from John Firestone
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:46:15 +0200 (CEST) From: John Firestone <johnf@freenet.de> Subject: Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window conversion) On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 arionatof@comcast.net wrote: > It there direction on how to do the ZZKE conversion, or how much it > is? I am really, really, interested in doing it and I have always > wondered how a 40K car doesn't come with those functions :( The conversions had the benefit of hindsight and getting Ron Stygar involved. :) I have written a fairly detailed guide to help with the installation which is probably comparable to installing a high-end alarm system. I wouldn't attempt the job, however, unless you are comfortable splicing into the factory harnesses (I have tried to minimize that) and are competent with solder and heat shrink. I am asking $100 for the controller + $150 for a mating harness + postage. I haven't heard any regrets from those who have installed it except perhaps from Ron. He now wants to add other ZZKE controller to his 318ti because sometimes its stock behavoir drives him a little batty by what it won't do! -John '96 318is

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#3. Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window - from arionatof@comcast.net
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 12:58:58 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window Sigh, The price is very good for the added functionality. But I suck at doing anything with respect to electornics, soldering, etc. So I probably will skip :( The most adventurous thing that I have done is installing the factory alarm and making Ron's service light restting tool. Johnny 98 M3/4 ~90K -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 12:46:15 +0200 (CEST) > From: John Firestone > Subject: Re: [E36M3] (LONG) A little list of electronic mods (was: rear window > conversion) > > On Mon, 4 Oct 2004 arionatof@comcast.net wrote: > > > It there direction on how to do the ZZKE conversion, or how much it > > is? I am really, really, interested in doing it and I have always > > wondered how a 40K car doesn't come with those functions :( > > The conversions had the benefit of hindsight and getting Ron Stygar > involved. :) > > I have written a fairly detailed guide to help with the installation > which is probably comparable to installing a high-end alarm system. I > wouldn't attempt the job, however, unless you are comfortable splicing > into the factory harnesses (I have tried to minimize that) and are > competent with solder and heat shrink. > > I am asking $100 for the controller + $150 for a mating harness + > postage. > > I haven't heard any regrets from those who have installed it except > perhaps from Ron. He now wants to add other ZZKE controller to his > 318ti because sometimes its stock behavoir drives him a little batty > by what it won't do! > > -John > '96 318is > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) - from Jason Knight
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 10:43:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW on eBay didn't sell) My friends and I tease my wife about her Camaro's engine being a SUHC - Single Under Head Cam. We're thinking about painting it on one of the valve covers when we get the engine back from the builder. Jason I can't think of any obligatory BMW content. Sorry. --- LoweSeaton@aol.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 20 Aug 2004 12:34:54 -0400 > From: LoweSeaton@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] It's back (was Re: The M3 LTW > on eBay didn't sell) > > Jason, SNIP > > Describing the valve arrangement is another matter. > You have OHV = overhead valve, SOHC = single > overhead camshaft, DOHC = dual overhead camshaft. > > So shorthand for the E36 M3 motor would be "L6 DOHC" > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3

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#5. Need O2 sensor - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:48:36 EDT From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Need O2 sensor Guys, Can someone lead me to the best (low cost) source for the O2 sensor that covers the 1-3 cylinders? I think I'd prefer to stick with Bosch, unless there are good reasons to switch. This is my first sensor failure. Dealer reset the CE light, but told me I'll be back. Mechanic told me to do it myself. Looks very do-able, right? Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA BSP Champion '01 & '02 SM '03 & '04

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#6. RE: [E36M3] Need O2 sensor - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 16:58:54 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need O2 sensor > Can someone lead me to the best (low cost) source for the O2 sensor that > covers the 1-3 cylinders? I think I'd prefer to stick with Bosch, unless there > are good reasons to switch. I've had good success with Bimmerparts.com. > This is my first sensor failure. Dealer reset the CE light, but told me I'll > be back. Mechanic told me to do it myself. Looks very do-able, right? Think so, although I've not done it myself. Jim Bassett

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Need O2 sensor - from marty
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Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:44:15 -0400 From: marty <mfraiser@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need O2 sensor > > >>can someone lead me to the best (low cost) source for the O2 sensor that >>covers the 1-3 cylinders? I think I'd prefer to stick with Bosch, unless there >>are good reasons to switch. >> >> > >I've had good success with Bimmerparts.com. > > I just looked at Bimmerparts price and at $99.20 for the Bosch part it's cheaper than the $105 I found at AutoZone which was the best cost I had found. Many places seem to ask $125-$145 for same part. > > > >>This is my first sensor failure. Dealer reset the CE light, but told me I'll >>be back. Mechanic told me to do it myself. Looks very do-able, right? >> >> > >Think so, although I've not done it myself. > > I recently replaced all 4 of mine in the driveway and it is very much doable. I hope you're as lucky as I was with regard to how easily the old ones came out (they come w/ antiseize already applied). They all stick up so if they don't come right off with an open-end wrench you'll probably want the Bosch O2 sensor socket. I got a generic socket from autoparts store, beforehand, but it didn't work because there was no way to get a wrench/socket on it. The Bosch socket also has an offset flange for a socket wrench that looks like it would work, although I didn't have one to try. FYI, the connectors for the manifold sensors are under the plastic cover on the middle top of the engine - not obvious from my Bentley. hth, marty

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#8. Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:38:06 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" I was just in the midst of looking for products to solve some lubricant issues I've been having, and ran across this on the Mobil 1 Site: http://www.mobil1.com/products/racing_formula.jsp It's a Ow30 synthetic oil (an oil weight that there was much discussion on many months ago), but it appears to be geared towards high-stress applications. Any who regularly tracks their cars looked into this or used in their cars? Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" - from Mount, Mike
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Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:14:24 -0700 From: "Mount, Mike" <JMMn@pge.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" My understanding of these oils is from the 2 wheeled world but probably applicable. The motorcycle 0wXX oils are indeed racing oils and are proven to increase measurable output power from reduced pumping losses and reduced friction. On a 600cc sized bike you can expect 2 - 3 extra ponies at the rear wheel, about a 2 - 3 % output improvement. The oil is recommended by it's mfr to be replaced after every race however, so are a bit pricey in that regard. Most decent synthetics - Motul for example - for bikes run $45 or so for 4 liters and a BMW runs with ~ 8 liters in the sump. What kind of lubrication issues do you have on the car that a 0 weight oil might address? Racing at Willow Springs, I won't run that light of oil weight as I'd like to avoid seizing the motor in Turn 8. 0 weight oils would not seem to have the film strength to stay on a part enough to protect. In that regard, my understanding is they do provide LESS measured oil pressure due to their lowered viscosity. If you have bearing clearance problems this may - or may not - help. I would not expect 0 weight oils to be helpful with VANOS issues. This is only my opinion though I have stayed at a Holiday Inn before! Ciao, Mike -----Original Message----- From: twisty M3 [mailto:twistym3@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:46 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 08:38:06 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" I was just in the midst of looking for products to solve some lubricant issues I've been having, and ran across this on the Mobil 1 Site: http://www.mobil1.com/products/racing_formula.jsp It's a Ow30 synthetic oil (an oil weight that there was much discussion on many months ago), but it appears to be geared towards high-stress applications. Any who regularly tracks their cars looked into this or used in their cars? Jonathan L. _________________________________________________________________ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:39:27 -0400 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Mobil 1 "Racing Oil" Jonathan writes: http://www.mobil1.com/index.jsp -------------------- I did not see an API rating for this oil. Every other Mobil 1 is API SL/CF. I am assuming since it is not API rated, it does not have detergents and additives. A non-detergent oil is OK for a weekend but if you plan to drive on the street very much, you want an oil with additives. So if you plan to change the oil right before and after your weekend DE, I'd say this Mobil 1 Racing is OK. Lowell Seaton '95 M3

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