E36M3 #3964

Thursday, October 21, 2004 11:40:38

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#1. RE: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? - from Carey Probst
#2. RE:Re: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? - from Jason Olin
#3. Ign. coils was Are the claimed HP gains really possible? - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
#4. Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net
#5. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Jay W. Hudson
#6. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Zack Steinkamp
#7. BMW Rear Shock Mount Comparison - from Ron Buchalski
#8. Carfax anyone? - from Mel Silva
#9. Re: [E36M3] BMW Rear Shock Mount Comparison - from Chester Wong
#10. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Jim Bassett

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#1. RE: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:49:46 -0400 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? Yes, maybe a lot more. I think the E36M3 has a bit more than 6 more hp than my eta even with the i cam, cai, and other tweaks. The key is having an instructor that pushes to get the most out of your car without making you uncomfortable. Several instructors had basically let bad habits go by and blamed lack of speed on the 'slow' car. After my last session, the instructor broke me of my bad habits and pointed out that a 'slow' car driven well will keep up or pass a 'fast' car driven poorly, except in the straights, but if proper technique keeps an extra 10 mph coming out of the corner it can offset a lot of hp. Earlier sessions it was not unusual to be lapped by the faster M3s, 'Vettes, etc. At the end of the weekend with this instructor I was rarely being passed, let alone lapped, and was doing some of the passing. I had been driving the M3 at Watkins Glen which is a real power track so the eta really has problems in the front and back straights and the toe of the boot (steep hill, not noticed in the M3) Obviously, I'm not going to outrun an M3 (any Exx)but smoothness and momentum make up for a lot of hp. Not sure what the hp on the eta engine is now with the mods, i cam, cai, dual valve springs, and 6000 rpm chip, plus suspension, but I'm guessing at least 50-75 hp less than a stock E36M3. Carey -----Original Message----- From: Gerry [mailto:gerry@parallel-mkt.com] Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 7:30 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 7:23:49 -0400 From: Gerry <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> Subject: Re: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? Carey, Are you saying that a good instructor is worth at least 6 horsepower? Gerry ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#2. RE:Re: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? - from Jason Olin
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 05:07:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Olin <jtolin64@yahoo.com> Subject: RE:Re: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? It depends on the instructor. Some of these big instructors, well...you have to factor in how much they weigh, and what they ate for lunch. It can ofset any HP gains. Jason 97 M3 Coupe Cosmos Black -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 7:23:49 -0400 From: Gerry <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> Subject: Re: RE: [E36M3] Re: Are the claimed HP gains really possible? Carey, Are you saying that a good instructor is worth at least 6 horsepower? Gerry __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

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#3. Ign. coils was Are the claimed HP gains really possible? - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:21:34 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Ign. coils was Are the claimed HP gains really possible? >I think the E36M3 has a bit more than 6 more hp than my eta even with >the i cam, cai, and other tweaks. >The key is having an instructor that pushes to get the most out of your >car without making you uncomfortable. No doubt. I always enjoy having a racer as an instructor, they seem to push you the most. :-) So speaking of ignition coils, are the ones in the E36 M3 ('95s) known to be a problem? I know from past discussion on the UUC list a few M50 motors seemed to have the problem but I'm curious if that was just on 325s and not on M3s. If you had to replace them what/where would you buy from? Are the aftermarket ones any good? Carlos.

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#4. Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:22:58 -0400 From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> Subject: Shark Injector & Race Gas I am taking my '96 M3 to the track tomorrow, and happen to have some 110 octane race gas left that I didn't use racing this year. My car is enabled with the Conforti Shark Injector software, and I was wondering whether the software can take advantage of higher octane fuel, by increasing timing for example? Regards, Stan Shaw Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 07:17:34 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas > > I am taking my '96 M3 to the track tomorrow, and happen to have some 110 octane > race gas left that I didn't use racing this year. My car is enabled with the > Conforti Shark Injector software, and I was wondering whether the software can > take advantage of higher octane fuel, by increasing timing for example? > > Regards, > Stan Shaw Not positive, but I think adaption may overcome the benfits of the higher octane gas. Jay

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Zack Steinkamp
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:09:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Zack Steinkamp <edsarkiss@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas i can absolutely tell a difference in my car when i treat it to half a tank of 100 octane fuel from the "secret" 76 station. smoother idle, smoother power delivery, it just feels stronger. guessing from your email that you've never run the 110 in your M3 -- just make sure it's unleaded so you don't ruin your catalytic converters. zs 98 M3/4 w/conforti software and intake --- Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net wrote: > Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:22:58 -0400 > From: <Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net> > Subject: Shark Injector & Race Gas > > I am taking my '96 M3 to the track tomorrow, and > happen to have some 110 octane > race gas left that I didn't use racing this year. > My car is enabled with the > Conforti Shark Injector software, and I was > wondering whether the software can > take advantage of higher octane fuel, by increasing > timing for example? > > Regards, > Stan Shaw > Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net > Phone: (413) 599-0399 Fax: (413) 599-0421 > Excell.Net Owner/Operator http://www.Excell.Net/ > 928 Owners Club President http://www.928OC.org/ > 928Racing.net Team Member http://www.928Racing.net/ > > "Liberty once lost is lost forever." - John Adams > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#7. BMW Rear Shock Mount Comparison - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:20:18 -0400 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: BMW Rear Shock Mount Comparison Has anyone compared the two different rear shock mounts available for the E46: 33526754096 and 33521092362 The first part is used on the E46 M3 and all E46 convertibles, while the second part is used on all non-M E46s. What is the significant difference? They are priced nearly the same. Thanks, -rb

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#8. Carfax anyone? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 10:47:31 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: Carfax anyone? If anyone has an active account, can you check the following VIN: 1G1YY22P9T5118159 Thanks, Mel

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#9. Re: [E36M3] BMW Rear Shock Mount Comparison - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 08:49:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BMW Rear Shock Mount Comparison I haven't compared, but just as a point of reference, I've had the E46M3 RSMs in my car since around 25k miles? Now I have 96k miles, numerous track days and I drive in NY/NJ (crappy ass roads) and I don't drive like a granny either. These RSMs have been through stock springs, H&R OE Sport, Eibach, coilovers in the 600# spring rate range and just the other weekend, I dropped the shocks to adjust the rebound back to stock (finally!) and inspected the RSMs...they were still in one piece. Please note, that I have trimmed the rear bump stop so the shock body is probably not bottoming out against the bump stop as often which I think is why the RSMs have lasted. Also, I'm using Koni SAs in the back (the DAs are still sitting in the box and I think I'll leave them there until next track season...no point in driving around with those in the snow) so the fact that the dampening is still good whereas a stock rear shock would have been long gone might also factor in. O, the stockers that I took off at 25k miles were shot. HTH, Chester --- Ron Buchalski <rbuchals@hotmail.com> wrote: > Has anyone compared the two different rear shock mounts available for the > E46: > > 33526754096 and 33521092362 > > The first part is used on the E46 M3 and all E46 convertibles, while the > second part is used on all non-M E46s. =====

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2004 09:33:49 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector & Race Gas Quoting Stan.Shaw@Excell.Net: > I am taking my '96 M3 to the track tomorrow, and happen to have some 110 > octane > race gas left that I didn't use racing this year. My car is enabled with > the > Conforti Shark Injector software, and I was wondering whether the software > can > take advantage of higher octane fuel, by increasing timing for example? I'm not sure what kind of immediate effects you'll notice, but I regularly do this in the 325is race car w/JimC chip. But that's mainly to get the octane level up to the recommended 93-94 that the chip was made for. Being in CA, we get cr*ppy 91 octane gas at the pump, which is OK for daily-driving in the M3 (also Sharked), but not so much for track/race situations. I regularly recommend (as does JimC) that any Californian that's Sharked do this when going to the track. Most tracks have 100 on tap, and the mixing is a simple liear ratio (it's even easier at Sears Point, they have 96 on tap :-)). My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - will be at Sears this weekend, hoping for dry :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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