E36M3 #3969

Friday, October 22, 2004 13:20:01

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#1. RE: Scattered the fan today... - from Burgess, Kim L
#2. RE: Water pump fun... - from Neil Maller
#3. Re: White goop in engine - from Neil Maller
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: White goop in engine - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Cross-threaded Rotor - from Kent L. Shephard
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Replacing RTABs... how low can the hub go? - from Jim Bassett
#7. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector - To Inject or Not - from Jim Bassett
#8. Re: [E36M3] Water pump fun... - from Jim Bassett
#9. Re: [E36M3] Replacing RTABs... how low can the hub go? - from Jim Bassett
#10. Setting cam timing with Vanos? - from GGray657@aol.com
#11. [M3] FS: brand new factory rear shocks for M3 - from Guillermo Molina

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#1. RE: Scattered the fan today... - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:19:28 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Scattered the fan today... "What's the word on replacement fans?" Euro diesel 5-blade. Euro E36 diesel FAN 11 52 2 243 303 KLBurgess

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#2. RE: Water pump fun... - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:34:18 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: RE: Water pump fun... on 10/22/04 10:19 AM, "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> wrote: > I had to look, but my '97 M3/4 was built on 09/96. Almost a year apart. > When did they switch to the plastic impeller? Wasn't the plastic impeller used from the start of E36 production in 1991? Certainly the earliest E36 M3 cars, which were made in 1994, had it. > When did they stop using it? In the May-June 1996 period. My 5/96 production car still had the plastic version - as Carlos remembers! Neil 96 M3

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#3. Re: White goop in engine - from Neil Maller
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:40:48 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: White goop in engine on 10/22/04 10:19 AM, "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> wrote: > While replacing my thermostat/water pump and radiator, I noticed that in some > places, there is white goop coating the inside of the engine. It's not the > main cooling channels as the water pup and water pump housing is perfectly > fine. > Anyone care to educate me what this stuff is? > http://gwl.rmsolo.org/WG/ Assuming it's a hard scale (can't tell for sure from the photo) then this is the result of using hard water and/or the wrong coolant chemistry in the coolant fill. BMW coolant might as well be liquid gold at about $20/gallon, but it's still cheap insurance for the engine. Distilled water at less than $2/gallon at the supermarket is just plain cheap. Neil 96 M3

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: White goop in engine - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:57:35 -0600 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: White goop in engine But why is the goop only on what looks like 1 half? The water pump is clean (no goop) as is the end of the thermostat that actually moves. The inside of the radiator is clean also. Very strange... BTW the scale is soft. I can wipe if off with a rag. Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Neil Maller [mailto:neil.maller@gte.net] Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 9:50 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Re: White goop in engine Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:40:48 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: White goop in engine on 10/22/04 10:19 AM, "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> wrote: > While replacing my thermostat/water pump and radiator, I noticed that in some > places, there is white goop coating the inside of the engine. It's not the > main cooling channels as the water pup and water pump housing is perfectly > fine. > Anyone care to educate me what this stuff is? > http://gwl.rmsolo.org/WG/ Assuming it's a hard scale (can't tell for sure from the photo) then this is the result of using hard water and/or the wrong coolant chemistry in the coolant fill. BMW coolant might as well be liquid gold at about $20/gallon, but it's still cheap insurance for the engine. Distilled water at less than $2/gallon at the supermarket is just plain cheap. Neil 96 M3 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: Cross-threaded Rotor - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 08:59:36 -0700 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Cross-threaded Rotor Good point. The moron that did it owns the problem. Neil Maller wrote: >Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:04:40 -0500 >From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> >Subject: Re: Cross-threaded Rotor > >on 10/21/04 2:30 PM, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > > >>>Any write-ups on how to change the hub? >>> >>> > > > >>I'm sure someone does, maybe Neil Maller? (His front hub write-up is on the >>same site you reference above - Ron Stygar's page at Unofficial E36.) >> >> > >Unfortunately - or fortunately, depending on whose point of view - I've >never had to do a rear hub/heel bearing. And I've never seen a write-up. >However it's my understanding that special pullers/tools are absolutely >required, and that the set runs about $250 or so. (I'd welcome any >corrections or clarifications.) > >If I were Bob: >1) I wouldn't even consider drilling out or rethreading the hub. > That would be strictly a "get home" measure if this happened > while you were at the track or something. >b) I'd have a dealer replace all the afflicted parts. >iii) The bill would go to the tire shop that buggered up the job > in the first place, or they'd be invited to meet me in small > claims court at their earliest inconvenience. > >I can't even imagine how much torque it takes to break a 12mm lug bolt. This >also means that every other lug bolt they touched should be replaced, and >that the other hub (hubs?) is also suspect. > >Neil >96 M3 > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > -- Please sponsor my daughter's school raffle, education is important. For more information: http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton1a.jpg http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton2a.jpg Tickets are available through me.

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: Replacing RTABs... how low can the hub go? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:35:25 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Replacing RTABs... how low can the hub go? Quoting Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net>: > I've done this dozens of times. There's no need to undo the trailing arm > pivot or to detach the brake line union from the trailing arm. Just to add my meager 2 cents, I've also done this several times, as Neil has described. At several races this year, I've swapped rear springs in/out on the race car in the paddock. Once the rear end is up on jack stands, removing the bottom shock bolt and a little (in my case a lot :-)) of leverage on the rear rotor/hub assembly allows me to get the springs in and out. Easily doable between sessions. Jim Bassett ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector - To Inject or Not - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:50:36 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shark Injector - To Inject or Not Quoting "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com>: > Wondering if the Shark is really worth it on the E36. Yes. > For better drivability it was worth it. You'll have similar results on the E36. The power delivery is smoother, the "dip" at ~5000-5500rpm is gone, and the injectors shut off much more smoothly when you let off the gas, reducing "bucking" and making for a smoother stop-n-go traffic experience. > For my E36 I don't have any cold > start problems. And you ahouldn't with the JimC SW. (My issue, from the previous thread, was that I pre-Injector Sharked my car, and this was before the cold start TSB was available. So I haven't had the cold start fix, mainly because I don't have an Injector to re-Shark the car.) > For those that have done the swap and removed the baffle > from the airbox; what is the seat of the pants evaluation? Well, I've got the SW and JimC intake, so my evaluation may be skewed (plus the car has been in this state for 5+ years). But there was a definite improvement in torque with the SW in addition to the aforementioned drivabiity improvement. The car seemed to accelerate better. The intake added a bit more, making the car breathe better and adding about 200-300 rpm at the end of straights in a back-to-back comparision at Laguna Seca several years ago (one event with SW only, next event couple of weeks later with intake added). Hope that helps, Jim Bassett - happy Eurosport customer 1998 M3/4 - JimC SW and intake (and Euro headlights sourced from Eurosport) 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 - JimC chip ("off-the-shelf" for S50 cams) and intake ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Water pump fun... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 09:58:29 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Water pump fun... Quoting Mel Silva <melsilva@mindspring.com>: > I didn't want to put the old one back in and have the > bearing fail on me in 1000 miles. Good idea. Although my OE pump was a metal impeller, it started leaking at the bearing at ~50,000 miles. (Uh oh, that means I have nearly 100,000 miles on the current pump, and radiator. Sh*t, must plan replacement SOON.) > I did save the old pump, I don't > know why, but I did. I've got a replaced, but good, fuel pump on my shelf, as well as a 2-year-old stock radiator. I don't take them to the track, so they're not doing me much good as spares. Not sure why I have them either. :-) Jim Bassett ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Replacing RTABs... how low can the hub go? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 10:40:46 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Replacing RTABs... how low can the hub go? Quoting Som Naderi <som@dimensionracing.com>: > Speaking of hitting, what's your car number again? ;) hehe... Uhhh, ummm, #117. Yeah, #117, that's it. <BFEvilG> Jim Bassett - trying to deal with his competition any way he can :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#10. Setting cam timing with Vanos? - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:10:17 EDT From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Setting cam timing with Vanos? I need to put the cams back in my car and was wondering if anyone has done it without tools. I have a mechanic buddy who does it without tools, he has done a ton of them. I need to figute out where to time the Vanos with the Intake cam since I bent all the intake valves last time yeahhh it was the first time.... Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team

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#11. [M3] FS:  brand new factory rear shocks for M3 - from Guillermo Molina
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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:15:23 -0400 From: "Guillermo Molina" <drwillb@msn.com> Subject: [M3] FS: brand new factory rear shocks for M3 brand new factory rear shocks for 95 M3. Not sure if they are same part number as other e36 M3. $90 includes shipping. Bill Molina _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! hthttp://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

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