-------------------- 1 --------------------
#1. Re: [E36M3] Groaning noise again... - from Robert Brooks
Top
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 2004 21:43:37 -0700 From: Robert Brooks <m3rb@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Groaning noise again... Hi Josh, Is there anything that could have affected your parking brake adjustment? Robert >Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:21:34 +0000 >From: docwyte@comcast.net >Subject: Groaning noise again... > >Ok, did some further investigation... > >It's definately brake related and coming from the rear brakes. Tonight I removed the rear wheels and calipers, cleaned everything up and put it back together. > >The rear wheels do not spin freely! There's alot of resistance when I try to spin them vs the fronts, which spin fine. The pads weren't hanging up, in fact I'd pushed the pistons all the way in, so the pads weren't even touching the rotors. WTF? > >Went out and rebedded the pads, they're tempering in the garage now. Braking performance is fine, just getting the noise and shudder during the last few feet of a gentle stop... > >Any ideas? I don't want to replace the rear calipers if I don't need to, and they don't appear to be bad... > >-josh > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >
-------------------- 2 --------------------
#2. Re: Groaning again - from Steve Klein
Top
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:54:57 -0600 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Re: Groaning again Josh- Are you certain that the groaning is coming from the wheel? Have you tried unbolting the half shafts at the diff and rotating the wheels? Just throwing out options since I've got a grumbly diff until I have it rebuilt. Steve On Nov 8, 2004, at 10:39 PM, E36M3 wrote: > Ok, did some further investigation... > > It's definately brake related and coming from the rear brakes. > Tonight I removed the rear wheels and calipers, cleaned everything up > and put it back together. > > The rear wheels do not spin freely! There's alot of resistance when I > try to spin them vs the fronts, which spin fine. The pads weren't > hanging up, in fact I'd pushed the pistons all the way in, so the pads > weren't even touching the rotors. WTF? > > Went out and rebedded the pads, they're tempering in the garage now. > Braking performance is fine, just getting the noise and shudder during > the last few feet of a gentle stop... > > Any ideas? I don't want to replace the rear calipers if I don't need > to, and they don't appear to be bad... > > -josh
-------------------- 3 --------------------
#3. Re: Groaning noise again... - from kim.burgess@att.net
Top
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:39:22 +0000 From: kim.burgess@att.net Subject: Re: Groaning noise again... Rear wheels won't spin freely because of the drive train drag. What pads are you running? Where do you live and what have the tempuratures been. Perhaps you are hearing noise from pads being used well below their intended/normal operating temp range. My trailing arms have been groaning since RTAB replacement when I come to a full stop and release the brakes, is that what you are experiencing? Docwyte wrote: "Ok, did some further investigation...It's definately brake related and coming from the rear brakes. Tonight I removed the rear wheels and calipers, cleaned everything up and put it back together. The rear wheels do not spin freely! There's alot of resistance when I try to spin them vs the fronts, which spin fine. The pads weren't hanging up, in fact I'd pushed the pistons all the way in, so the pads weren't even touching the rotors. WTF? Went out and rebedded the pads, they're tempering in the garage now. Braking performance is fine, just getting the noise and shudder during the last few feet of a gentle stop... Any ideas? I don't want to replace the rear calipers if I don't need to, and they don't appear to be bad..."
-------------------- 4 --------------------
#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: Groaning noise again... - from docwyte@comcast.net
Top
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:56:54 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Groaning noise again... They're axxiss ultimates. Temps have been pretty stable, getting noise right when I come up to a stop, the last few feet before I come to a complete stop... -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 05:39:22 +0000 > From: kim.burgess@att.net > Subject: Re: Groaning noise again... > > Rear wheels won't spin freely because of the drive train drag. What pads are you > running? Where do you live and what have the tempuratures been. Perhaps you are > hearing noise from pads being used well below their intended/normal operating > temp range. > My trailing arms have been groaning since RTAB replacement when I come to a full > stop and release the brakes, is that what you are experiencing? >
-------------------- 5 --------------------
#5. re: Groaning noise again... - from Robert Manger
Top
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 09:04:38 -0500 From: Robert Manger <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: re: Groaning noise again... hey Joshy Just a shot in the dark, but since you mentioned the rear wheels don't spin easily and you've looked at the pistons. What about the emergency brakes, maybe they are hanging up or not fully released. Rob Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2004 04:21:34 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Groaning noise again... Ok, did some further investigation... It's definately brake related and coming from the rear brakes. Tonight I removed the rear wheels and calipers, cleaned everything up and put it back together. The rear wheels do not spin freely! There's alot of resistance when I try to spin them vs the fronts, which spin fine. The pads weren't hanging up, in fact I'd pushed the pistons all the way in, so the pads weren't even touching the rotors. WTF? Went out and rebedded the pads, they're tempering in the garage now. Braking performance is fine, just getting the noise and shudder during the last few feet of a gentle stop... Any ideas? I don't want to replace the rear calipers if I don't need to, and they don't appear to be bad... -josh ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail message and any attachments are only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, distribution or other use of this e-mail message or attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.
-------------------- 6 --------------------
#6. HID Failure? - from Jake McClean
Top
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:44:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jake McClean <sin@mail.value.net> Subject: HID Failure? Hey all, I've got a 95 M3 which has a full HID system which I believe is comprised of Phillips hardware. The HID system was already installed in the car when I bought it. Recently, I've discovered that when leaving the car sitting for anything over 8-10 hours, the headlights will not turn on immediately. I'll start the motor and flip the headlight switch, but all I get is the parking lights. After a minute or two of just sitting there, the headlights will pop on, seemingly on their own... and then they behave just fine. If I shut the car down or turn the lights off, they'll pop on immediately when I flip them back on.. the problem only seems to exist when the car has been sitting for a bit. Any ideas? This doesn't really sound like a loose connection to me. Could this be a sign that some element of my HID hardware is dying? I've got zippo experience with HID lighting, so I don't really know where to begin! Jake 95 M3
-------------------- 7 --------------------
#7. Options when replacing Vaders? - from Hans Batra
Top
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:52:25 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Options when replacing Vaders? Gruppe, I have a 97 Coupe and my only complaint is that the Vaders are not comfortable or supportive for me (I'm 5' 7", 175 lbs). Anyone have any suggestions for seats? My Vaders are black manual ones. What's available that one can install without too much difficulty? What do you guys think about replacing the Vaders with the BMW sport seats? Not sure if they were available in a manual version, or how difficult it would be to connect powered sport seats. My favorite factory seats were the ones in my 1986 325es. They were fantastic. Thanks for any comments/suggestions. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake McClean" <sin@mail.value.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: [E36M3] HID Failure? > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:44:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Jake McClean <sin@mail.value.net> > Subject: HID Failure? > > Hey all, > > I've got a 95 M3 which has a full HID system which I believe is comprised > of Phillips hardware. The HID system was already installed in the car > when I bought it. > > Recently, I've discovered that when leaving the car sitting for anything > over 8-10 hours, the headlights will not turn on immediately. I'll start > the motor and flip the headlight switch, but all I get is the parking > lights. After a minute or two of just sitting there, the headlights will > pop on, seemingly on their own... and then they behave just fine. If I > shut the car down or turn the lights off, they'll pop on immediately > when I flip them back on.. the problem only seems to exist when the car > has been sitting for a bit. > > Any ideas? This doesn't really sound like a loose connection to > me. Could this be a sign that some element of my HID hardware is > dying? I've got zippo experience with HID lighting, so I don't really > know where to begin! > > Jake > 95 M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
-------------------- 8 --------------------
#8. RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? - from Patrick Goss - PA
Top
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:22:57 -0500 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? Have you considered the M sedan front seats? I really like mine. They may be harder to find since the sedans were only made 2 years. Patrick -----Original Message----- From: Hans Batra [mailto:hansbatra@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:59 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:52:25 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Options when replacing Vaders? Gruppe, I have a 97 Coupe and my only complaint is that the Vaders are not comfortable or supportive for me (I'm 5' 7", 175 lbs). Anyone have any suggestions for seats? My Vaders are black manual ones. What's available that one can install without too much difficulty? What do you guys think about replacing the Vaders with the BMW sport seats? Not sure if they were available in a manual version, or how difficult it would be to connect powered sport seats. My favorite factory seats were the ones in my 1986 325es. They were fantastic. Thanks for any comments/suggestions. Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake McClean" <sin@mail.value.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:49 PM Subject: [E36M3] HID Failure? > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:44:26 -0800 (PST) > From: Jake McClean <sin@mail.value.net> > Subject: HID Failure? > > Hey all, > > I've got a 95 M3 which has a full HID system which I believe is comprised > of Phillips hardware. The HID system was already installed in the car > when I bought it. > > Recently, I've discovered that when leaving the car sitting for anything > over 8-10 hours, the headlights will not turn on immediately. I'll start > the motor and flip the headlight switch, but all I get is the parking > lights. After a minute or two of just sitting there, the headlights will > pop on, seemingly on their own... and then they behave just fine. If I > shut the car down or turn the lights off, they'll pop on immediately > when I flip them back on.. the problem only seems to exist when the car > has been sitting for a bit. > > Any ideas? This doesn't really sound like a loose connection to > me. Could this be a sign that some element of my HID hardware is > dying? I've got zippo experience with HID lighting, so I don't really > know where to begin! > > Jake > 95 M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
-------------------- 9 --------------------
#9. RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? - from David Ngo
Top
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 12:33:51 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? The luxury package seats are also the same style as the sedan seats. Dave --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 15:22:57 -0500 > From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? > > Have you considered the M sedan front seats? I > really like mine. They may > be harder to find since the sedans were only made 2 > years. > > Patrick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Hans Batra [mailto:hansbatra@yahoo.com] > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 2:59 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 14:52:25 -0500 > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > Subject: Options when replacing Vaders? > > Gruppe, > > I have a 97 Coupe and my only complaint is that the > Vaders are not > comfortable or supportive for me (I'm 5' 7", 175 > lbs). > > Anyone have any suggestions for seats? My Vaders > are black manual ones. > > What's available that one can install without too > much difficulty? What do > you guys think about replacing the Vaders with the > BMW sport seats? Not > sure if they were available in a manual version, or > how difficult it would > be to connect powered sport seats. > > My favorite factory seats were the ones in my 1986 > 325es. They were > fantastic. > > Thanks for any comments/suggestions. > > Hans > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jake McClean" <sin@mail.value.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 12:49 PM > Subject: [E36M3] HID Failure? > > > > Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 08:44:26 -0800 (PST) > > From: Jake McClean <sin@mail.value.net> > > Subject: HID Failure? > > > > Hey all, > > > > I've got a 95 M3 which has a full HID system which > I believe is comprised > > of Phillips hardware. The HID system was already > installed in the car > > when I bought it. > > > > Recently, I've discovered that when leaving the > car sitting for anything > > over 8-10 hours, the headlights will not turn on > immediately. I'll start > > the motor and flip the headlight switch, but all I > get is the parking > > lights. After a minute or two of just sitting > there, the headlights will > > pop on, seemingly on their own... and then they > behave just fine. If I > > shut the car down or turn the lights off, they'll > pop on immediately > > when I flip them back on.. the problem only seems > to exist when the car > > has been sitting for a bit. > > > > Any ideas? This doesn't really sound like a loose > connection to > > me. Could this be a sign that some element of my > HID hardware is > > dying? I've got zippo experience with HID > lighting, so I don't really > > know where to begin! > > > > Jake > > 95 M3 > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Check out the new Yahoo! Front Page. www.yahoo.com
-------------------- 10 --------------------
#10. RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? - from Jim Bassett
Top
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 13:38:29 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Options when replacing Vaders? Quoting Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM>: > Have you considered the M sedan front seats? AKA BMW Sports Seats that Hans mentioned :-) > I really like mine. They may > be harder to find since the sedans were only made 2 years. And that they wouldn't have the release to allow back seat access if they were installed in a Coupe. But Sports Seats from a 325/328 Coupe would fit the bill. Cheers, Jim Bassett ex-1996 328is w/Sports Seats/Sports package 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.