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#1. Radiator For Sale - from Martin Bullen
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:53:02 -0500 From: Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> Subject: Radiator For Sale Last year I bought and put on the shelf a new radiator, but never got around to installing it (I've never even opened the box). Now that the M3 is closing on 70k miles, I'm ready to replace the rad as part of a full cooling system update, but decided to go with the aluminum unit from Zionsville. So, I have a new-in-box E36 radiator that I'd like to sell. Zygmunt (bimmerparts.com) has these on special for $155.88. I'm asking $140, plus shipping from 19301. Martin Bullen '95 M3 '97 Z3 2.8
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Jeremy Conners
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:55:18 -0500 From: "Jeremy Conners" <jeremy.conners@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) This is my question as well. Where's the value added? What about volume consumption differences from stock? Are you upgrading the master cylinder? Why not increase the effective radius of the braking system? If you're increasing the brake system capability, why not increase the thermal inertia of the rotor? Cooling capacity? Details please... Jeremy // -----Original Message----- // From: Mark Dadgar [mailto:mark@pdc-racing.net] // Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 1:03 PM // To: E36M3 // Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) // // Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 09:59:42 -0800 // From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> // Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) // // On Nov 11, 2004, at 9:52 AM, GGray657@aol.com wrote: // > I found the calipers I am going to use front and rear. They have dust // > seals // > and can be built with either a race type piston with thermal barrier // > or the // > stock dust seals. Price for the kit will run 500-800 front only. Kit // > will include // > the following. Calipers, brackets, lines, pads. This will be a direct // > bolt on // > to the E36 M3 brake rotor. Options will be, ducted backing plates, and // > possibly a two piece rotor. // // I'm curious, what is the benefit you are looking to get from this? // Improved pedal feel? Access to a wider variety of pads? // // - Mark // ----- // mark@pdc-racing.net
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#3. Re: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge - from treehouse@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:52:28 -0600 From: <treehouse@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge > Also, why is the air filter on the wrong side of the engine? Shhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! This is a very secret mod allowing fresh air to mix with exhaust TRIPLING the Net Horsepower! Actually it's because it does seem to be fitted with a supercharger or turbo requiring extensive plumbing and a new location for the air filter. Jon ______________________________________________ Jon Siccardi TreehouseRacing.com - Home of the Eyeball Arm M50conversion.com 615.333.9118 ______________________________________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 4:42 PM Subject: RE: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:38:13 -0500 > From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge > > Cool stuff! I like the sense of humor on these guys: > > What's the plan? > Increase power with a turbo and then sort the chassis with motorsport parts-brakes, suspension, roll-cage-so the car is good in a straight line and cornering. Then we'll add some ICE. Shouldn't this be secret? In that case, we're putting a 454 Hemi in it with Holley double-pumpers and a Weiand huffer. It's gonna be in the nines. > > Also, why is the air filter on the wrong side of the engine? > > http://www.editorscharitychallenge.com/eurotrash/trackday/ <http://www.editorscharitychallenge.com/eurotrash/trackday/> > > - E > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Ron Buchalski [mailto:rbuchals@hotmail.com] > Sent: Thu 11/11/2004 5:22 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge > > > > Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:21:13 -0500 > From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> > Subject: eBay Editor's Charity Challenge > > Check this out on eBay: > > http://www.editorscharitychallenge.com/ > > > In particular, check out the entry entitled "Eurotrash": > > http://www.editorscharitychallenge.com/eurotrash/ > > The results don't look too promising. Many of the other vehicles beat the > Eurotrash. > > -rb > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#4. Looking for an Estoril Blue M3 - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 01:39:11 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: Looking for an Estoril Blue M3 Hey guys. I am looking for an Estoril Blue M3. Here are all the specs that I prefer. Coupe, Gray interior, 5spd, mods are okay, under 90K. If you guys know of any car like this for sale please let me know. I have searched Ebay, Autotrader and the local paper/classifieds. I live in Atlanta but location of the car is of little concern. Thanks for your help. Seth Thomas www.bimmerworldracing.com
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#5. RE: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:24:56 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge The car has a turbo installed, so the intake gets moved to the right side. The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS. Doesn't every car guy worth his salt know that Chevy makes a 454 cu in. engine, but Chrysler makes the 'Hemi'? Besides, the big Hemi's from the 60's and 70's were 426 cu in. -rb Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 17:38:13 -0500 From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] eBay Editor's Charity Challenge Cool stuff! I like the sense of humor on these guys: What's the plan? Increase power with a turbo and then sort the chassis with motorsport parts-brakes, suspension, roll-cage-so the car is good in a straight line and cornering. Then we'll add some ICE. Shouldn't this be secret? In that case, we're putting a 454 Hemi in it with Holley double-pumpers and a Weiand huffer. It's gonna be in the nines. Also, why is the air filter on the wrong side of the engine? http://www.editorscharitychallenge.com/eurotrash/trackday/ <http://www.editorscharitychallenge.com/eurotrash/trackday/> - E
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Looking for an Estoril Blue M3 - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:37:29 -0500 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Looking for an Estoril Blue M3 Hey Seth, that is the same type of car I just bought, but mine was a sedan :) Anyways, not sure of any for sale right now, but here are other places I was checking on a daily basis before I found mine (was very picky): http://www.turnermotorsport.com/html/showadds.asp?Type=car http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=168 http://www.cars.com (actually found mine on here + local listing) http://www.roadfly.org/bmw/classifieds/cars/listads.php?cat=207 ted
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:55:50 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) In a message dated 11/11/2004 9:03:02 PM Central Standard Time, jeremy.conners@comcast.net writes: This is my question as well. Where's the value added? What about volume Consumption differences from stock? Are you upgrading the master cylinder? Why not increase the effective radius of the braking system? If you're increasing the brake system capability, why not increase the thermal inertia Of the rotor? Cooling capacity? Details please... The value is from the ability to swap pads without removing the entire caliper since its generally a PITA to do every time you track the car. Which I do regularly until I have my race car back going in 05. The caliper will be considerably stiffer and perform much better under high load conditions like track or race conditions, lighter, and easier to swap pads for those who do track day/race. And of course they look cool especially red!!! 1. As far as "volume consumption" brakes do not consume the fluid they store fluid and use the fluid for pressure. If you are missing fluid something is wrong with the brake system or you need to replace worn pads the fluid will be ba ck to normal with new pads watching the fluid level will tell you how much pad you have left or have used. 2. You do not need to increase the master cylinder if the calipers match the stock calipers fluid requirements. There should be no difference in fluid volume requirements. 3. The rotor size is fine, it transfers plenty of thermal energy for daily use, track use, and racing. Most of the club racers use stock rotors on their cars. The only students I have ever instructed that could get remotely close to needing more brakes have been A/Advanced run group students with modified cars. Increasing the rotor diameter also adds extra unsprung weight to the rotational mass of the wheel...This itself will take more energy to slow down due to the weight. Slapping big rotors on a car is not the best solution to more effective braking. 4. Cooling...Cooling comes directly from the backing plates, and having a properly ducted brake system. The ducted backing plates would only be needed on a track/race car. For everyday use you do not need that much cooling, if you had it the brakes would never reach operating temperature. I will have ducted backing plates on my car BUT will not attach the ducting unless I use the car on the track. Hope that helps, I am not just going to slap on some calipers and sell them. I am going to test it first, if it does not perform properly I will scrap the project. I am extremely anal about how my car performs, especially braking at a race track. So anal I do not like other people to work on my car at all. The only thing I cannot do is mount tires and alignments. Other than that I do all my own work. And my car is heavily modified. Thanks for all the questions and interest! Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team And Car Guy!
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:45:57 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Has anyone ever used this system by RPI? http://www.rpiequipped.com/store/c192104.2.html Jeremy Conners wrote: >Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2004 21:55:18 -0500 >From: "Jeremy Conners" <jeremy.conners@comcast.net> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) > >This is my question as well. Where's the value added? What about volume >consumption differences from stock? Are you upgrading the master cylinder? >Why not increase the effective radius of the braking system? If you're >increasing the brake system capability, why not increase the thermal inertia >of the rotor? Cooling capacity? Details please... > > > -- Please sponsor my daughter's school raffle, education is important. For more information: http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton1a.jpg http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton2a.jpg Tickets are available through me.
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:58:01 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Quoting GGray657@aol.com: > The value is from the ability to swap pads without removing the entire > caliper since its generally a PITA to do every time you track the car. Just my 2 cents, but unless you have a proper pad/pistion spreader, changing pads on a multi-pistion caliper is actually HARDER than with the stock calipers. Just my experience, having made MANY pad changes on the M3's stock calipers, and on the race cars 4-pot AP Racing system. > The caliper will be > considerably stiffer and perform much better under high load conditions like > track or > race conditions, l This is a definite plus. Several people who have driven the race car have commented favorably on the brake pedal feel. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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#10. RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:15:30 -0700 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Ever changed the pads on a modern Porsche? A pair of pliers to remove 1 "R" clip and the pads virtually fall out! Doesn't get any easier than that :) Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 11:03 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:58:01 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Quoting GGray657@aol.com: > The value is from the ability to swap pads without removing the entire > caliper since its generally a PITA to do every time you track the car. Just my 2 cents, but unless you have a proper pad/pistion spreader, changing pads on a multi-pistion caliper is actually HARDER than with the stock calipers. Just my experience, having made MANY pad changes on the M3's stock calipers, and on the race cars 4-pot AP Racing system. > The caliper will be > considerably stiffer and perform much better under high load conditions like > track or > race conditions, l This is a definite plus. Several people who have driven the race car have commented favorably on the brake pedal feel. Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP/A5 ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************