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#1. RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:31:45 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Quoting Graeme Weston-Lewis <gweston@lsil.com>: > Ever changed the pads on a modern Porsche? Nope. > A pair of pliers to remove 1 "R" clip and the pads virtually fall out! Same as my AP's. I guess I should be more clear, it's not the "taking the old pads out" that's the issue, it's the "compressing the pistons back in to get the new, thicker pad in". > Doesn't get any easier than that :) And how do you compress the pistons to get the new, thicker pads in? Or is there something Porsche does differently than AP/Brembo/etc? Jim Bassett - truly curious (and probably changing his brake pads incorrectly :-)) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:44:10 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) You have to do one pad at a time. A big flat head screwdriver works wonders. Remove one pad, and just lever against the rotor to push the piston back in. the piston right next to it might move so you may need two screwdrivers or just alternate back and forth between the two. Once you get one new pad in, repeat on the other side. Chester --- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > And how do you compress the pistons to get the new, thicker pads in? > > Or is there something Porsche does differently than AP/Brembo/etc? =====
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#3. RE: The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS ....was..eBay Editor's Charity Challenge - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:42:00 -0800 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS ....was..eBay Editor's Charity Challenge Ron Wrote: "The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS. Doesn't every car guy worth his salt know that Chevy makes a 454 cu in. engine, but Chrysler makes the 'Hemi'? Besides, the big Hemi's from the 60's and 70's were 426 cu in. -rb That is the common belief unless you've been reading SuperChevy!!! http://www.superchevy-web.com/tech/0404sc_hemi/ KLB
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:03:14 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Quoting Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com>: > You have to do one pad at a time. I know :-) I use a pair of channel locks, using them with the old pad to push both pistons on that side back in together, then swap out the old pad with the new. Sounds easy, but in practice is a bit tougher (probably because I'm a 133lb weakling and it takes a lot of effort to push the pistons back :-)) All in all, it probably takes me about the same amount of time to swap pads on the AP brakes as on the stock brakes (although I haven't actually timed myself). Hence my contention that they are "easier" to change pads. Ah well, as usual, YMMV :-) Jim Bassett ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.
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#5. Spreading the pads... - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:14:16 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Spreading the pads... Actually I already thought about compressing the pistons my 535turbo has four piston calipers. I use a big screw driver and do one side at a time. HOWEVER. I think I may include a tool to push the pistons back in. I can make a tool pretty cheap, it might not be snap on quality but it will work. Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:14:37 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) Hi, Interestingly enough, BMW at one time used a race pad type setup. I had a '78 530i that used two pins and a spring clip to retain pads and position them. It was a 20 minute brake job. It took longer to remove the wheel than to change the pads. Kent Chester Wong wrote: >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:44:10 -0800 (PST) >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake caliper upgrade kit (update) > >You have to do one pad at a time. A big flat head screwdriver works wonders. >Remove one pad, and just lever against the rotor to push the piston back in. >the piston right next to it might move so you may need two screwdrivers or just >alternate back and forth between the two. Once you get one new pad in, repeat >on the other side. > >Chester > >--- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > >>And how do you compress the pistons to get the new, thicker pads in? >> >>Or is there something Porsche does differently than AP/Brembo/etc? >> >> > > >===== > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > -- Please sponsor my daughter's school raffle, education is important. For more information: http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton1a.jpg http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton2a.jpg Tickets are available through me.
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#7. RE: The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS ....was..eBay Editor's Charity - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:15:52 -0500 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS ....was..eBay Editor's Charity Challenge Okay...but I was referring to factory engines, as built by Chevy and Chrysler. -rb From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> CC: <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS ....was..eBay Editor's Charity Challenge Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 11:42:00 -0800 Ron Wrote: "The engine comments (454 hemi) are BS. Doesn't every car guy worth his salt know that Chevy makes a 454 cu in. engine, but Chrysler makes the 'Hemi'? Besides, the big Hemi's from the 60's and 70's were 426 cu in. -rb That is the common belief unless you've been reading SuperChevy!!! http://www.superchevy-web.com/tech/0404sc_hemi/ KLB
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:26:52 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... Sounds interesting to me. Keep us informed! BTW, where are you guys buying the tool to compress the caliper pistons on the stock calipers? I'm kinda getting tired of using my channel locks. I was at a DE some years ago and a fella had a really nifty tool he was using on his M coupe... -josh -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:14:16 EST > From: GGray657@aol.com > Subject: Spreading the pads... > > Actually I already thought about compressing the pistons my 535turbo has four > piston calipers. I use a big screw driver and do one side at a time. HOWEVER. > I think I may include a tool to push the pistons back in. I can make a tool > pretty cheap, it might not be snap on quality but it will work. > > Gary Gray > Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:34:15 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... Big "C'" clamp with an old pad. docwyte@comcast.net wrote: >Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 20:26:52 +0000 >From: docwyte@comcast.net >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... > >Sounds interesting to me. Keep us informed! > >BTW, where are you guys buying the tool to compress the caliper pistons on the stock calipers? I'm kinda getting tired of using my channel locks. I was at a DE some years ago and a fella had a really nifty tool he was using on his M coupe... > >-josh > > > -- Please sponsor my daughter's school raffle, education is important. For more information: http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton1a.jpg http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton2a.jpg Tickets are available through me.
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#10. Wheel Fitment - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:36:10 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Wheel Fitment Hi, I'm looking at some wheels 18x8 and 18x9 staggered. They have an et38 offset. My rear fender lips are rolled. Will they fit with 235 front and 245 rears? Thanks, Kent -- Please sponsor my daughter's school raffle, education is important. For more information: http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton1a.jpg http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton2a.jpg Tickets are available through me.
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... - from Rex Tener
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 12:37:53 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... At 02:32 PM 11/12/2004 -0600, docwyte@comcast.net wrote: >BTW, where are you guys buying the tool to compress the caliper pistons on >the stock calipers? I'm kinda getting tired of using my channel locks. I >was at a DE some years ago and a fella had a really nifty tool he was >using on his M coupe... Hey Josh, Here is what I use: <http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/LIS-24400.html> I got mine from the Ultimate Garage, but I have seen it in my local auto parts stores too. -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com
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#12. Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 13:40:28 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spreading the pads... Quoting docwyte@comcast.net: > Sounds interesting to me. Me too! (Oh dog, I feel like an AOL-er :-)) > BTW, where are you guys buying the tool to compress the caliper pistons on > the stock calipers? I think I bought mine at Sears. Just about any auto parts store should have it, I would think. Searchingsearching, yep, here's the one I have: <http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=00947365000> Jim Bassett ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.