E36M3 #4025

Thursday, December 09, 2004 16:25:48

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from arionatof@comcast.net
#2. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - from Jim Bassett
#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Jim Bassett
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Robert Chay
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Som Naderi
#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Jim Bassett
#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from twisty M3
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Jim Bassett
#9. WTT: Dinan Exhaust for something else. - from Ty Vilhauer
#10. Best way to store an M3 - from Gaudio, Stefano

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from arionatof@comcast.net
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Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2004 16:30:25 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter Just follow Neil's message and look for that particular issue of Roundel. It describes the problem precisely and tell you how to fix it. A good item to work fix when you are replacing the clutch. I learned to live with mine until I have an excuse to drop the transmission. If it gets stuck after pulling out of fifth (e.g., coming to a stop at a traffic light,) I just shift it into second and out and it will be back to the middle position. Johnny 98 M3/4 93K -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org > Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 08:09:03 -0800 > From: "Som Naderi" <som@dimensionracing.com> > Subject: Re: One More thing about my shifter > > Wow. I *just* started having that problem myself and I was going to ask > some people here about it. > > I doubt it's a coincidence, though. I wonder if it has something to do with > the weather? It's been particularly cold here in San Diego the last week or > two... (yeah yeah... 40-45 degrees at night is "cold" in San Diego) :) > > It also seems to get better as the car warms up... > > - Som > > > On Tue, 7 Dec 2004 23:08:00 -0600, E36M3 wrote > > -------------------- 2 -------------------- > > Date: Sun, 5 Dec 2004 18:09:01 -0600 > > From: "Robert Exconde (M3)" <99e36m3@exconde.com> > > Subject: One More thing about my shifter > > > > One more question, > > > > My shifter is no leaning to the right. Is there a spring that I > > should replace? It will go to the left but I have to force it. I > > have heard of this on the list before but I couldn't find it. > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 12:34:19 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve Quoting Jeremy Conners <jeremy.conners@comcast.net>: > Any BTDTs on our E36M3s? As Justin said, it's inline at the slave cylinder. I removed mine, to see what change it made. Clutch take-up was much more direct, but I found that it was TOO direct for the daily stop-n-go driving I do with the M3 now. I was hoping for a bit more direct-ness, like the race car, but I found to to be that and more. So I put it back. As usual, YMMV (and most likely will :-)). Jim Bassett ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:25:39 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter Quoting Som Naderi <som@dimensionracing.com>: > Wow. I *just* started having that problem myself and I was going to ask > some people here about it. > > I doubt it's a coincidence, though. I wonder if it has something to do with > the weather? Actually, yes. The cold weather exacerbates the problem, making it much more noticeable. I've been dealing with the issue for 3 winters now. It gets fixed tomorrow! :-) > It's been particularly cold here in San Diego You live in San Diego?!? I thought you were a SF Bay Area person? Even bigger "Thanks" for doing rescue crew duty at the local races. (And for the record, Som did, in fact, have to tow me at the 25-Hour race :-) Some brilliant engineer put the fuel pump relay right next to the dead pedal, and of course my crew didn't warn me about it. I kicked it loose - TWICE! Grumblegrumblegrumble.) > It also seems to get better as the car warms up... Yep, classic symptom. As review, the issue is the Feb 2003 Roundel. I still have it, and can scan and post it if anyone would like a copy. And I'll try to post a post-fix report after I've driven the car for a couple of cold days. Cheers, Jim Bassett - only wants to meet Som in the paddock from now on :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 16:41:59 -0500 From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter I have the pdf file if anyone's interested. I bought a 4Runner last month and have driven the M3 twice since. -Bobby > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Bassett > > As review, the issue is the Feb 2003 Roundel. I still have > it, and can scan and > post it if anyone would like a copy. And I'll try to post a > post-fix report > after I've driven the car for a couple of cold days. > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett - only wants to meet Som in the paddock from now on :-) >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Som Naderi
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 14:16:55 -0800 From: "Som Naderi" <som@dimensionracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter > > It's been particularly cold here in San Diego > You live in San Diego?!? I thought you were a SF Bay Area person? > Even bigger "Thanks" for doing rescue crew duty at the local races. Well I used to live up in Santa Cruz... just moved back to San Diego about 5 months ago (after 6 years up there). I got involved with NASA about 3 years ago. They've sorta become like family up there, so now I try to fly up to work the events as often as possible. > (And for the record, Som did, in fact, have to tow me at the 25-Hour > race :-) Some brilliant engineer put the fuel pump relay right next > to the dead pedal, and of course my crew didn't warn me about it. I > kicked it loose - TWICE! Grumblegrumblegrumble.) I'll admit I was a bit worried after the second time... at that point all I'd heard was that it was an "electrical problem" -- which could have been real bad. Once you guys got it resolved (did you put on smaller shoes? :) ) it seemed pretty solid the rest of the way. I was excited to see the silver 96 car in the light of dawn! > > It also seems to get better as the car warms up... > Yep, classic symptom. > As review, the issue is the Feb 2003 Roundel. I still have it, and > can scan and post it if anyone would like a copy. And I'll try to > post a post-fix report after I've driven the car for a couple of > cold days. If it works out for you, I'd definitely be interested. I'm realizing more and more how much I rely on the neutral position to be below third gear. The good thing is that a misshift isn't a downshift... I wonder if that was something intentional in the design? I haven't seen how the shifter is designed so that might not make any sense, but imagine neutral putting the shifter under first gear when it was cold... ouch! - Som

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 8 Dec 2004 15:48:34 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter Quoting Som Naderi <som@dimensionracing.com>: > I'll admit I was a bit worried after the second time... at that point all > I'd heard was that it was an "electrical problem" -- That was the easiest way to describe it in the "heat of the moment". In other words, "Just get me back to my pit!" :-) > Once you guys got it resolved (did you put on smaller shoes? :) ) LOL! One of the mechanics duct-taped some cardboard over it. (FWIW, the OE plastic cover was removed for the roll cage install, AFAIK. Dunno if they had a make-shift cover over it for last year's event, and forgot to re-install it, or what. The car was just retrieved from the body shop 2 weeks before the event, so that's possible. What sucked was I did it a 2nd time, after knowing it was an issue. Ugh.) > it seemed pretty solid the rest of the way. Yep, pretty much. Changed a F wheel bearing at 2AM was all. > I was excited to see the silver > 96 car in the light of dawn! So was the rest of the team! :-) > I wonder if that was > something intentional in the design? According to the article, it's a machining/tolerance/lubrication issue. The fix is essentially to retrieve that particular detent plunger from the transmission, buff it with some emory cloth, them re-lube and re-install. I'll let you know how it goes. Jim Bassett ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2004 12:26:05 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter Once again, Relay (hehe!), it was an absolute pleasure and honor to drive with you. Last year the car didn't have the cover over the relay switch either, but they warned us of this beforehand. The lightbulb went on for all of us once Drew mentioned the word "relay." We all had a look of, "Oh yeeeeah!!!" Post your results with the tranny fix (M3 content) once it's done, as I'm interested to hear. I never got around to doing mine, so I still have to watch out for 3rd gear on cold mornings. Jonathan L. From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> << (FWIW, the OE plastic cover was removed for the roll cage install, AFAIK. Dunno if they had a make-shift cover over it for last year's event, and forgot to re-install it, or what. The car was just retrieved from the body shop 2 weeks before the event, so that's possible. What sucked was I did it a 2nd time, after knowing it was an issue. Ugh.) >>

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 12:52:15 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: One More thing about my shifter Quoting twisty M3 <twistym3@hotmail.com>: > Once again, Relay (hehe!), it was an absolute pleasure and honor to drive > with you. Thanks you, the honor was mine. What a truly fun car, and great team! > Last year the car didn't have the cover over the relay switch either, but > they warned us of this beforehand. The lightbulb went on for all of us once > Drew mentioned the word "relay." We all had a look of, "Oh yeeeeah!!!" And I have a tendancy sometimes to not always brace myself with my left foot, so it sometimes "floats". > Post your results with the tranny fix (M3 content) once it's done, as I'm > interested to hear. Yep, will do. Car's at Bill's shop right now. Should be cold enough when I pick it up tonight to get an idea as to the effectiveness of the fix. > I never got around to doing mine, so I still have to > watch out for 3rd gear on cold mornings. Yeah, I'm real careful not to overcompensate and end up in 1st (BTDT, not pleasant :-)). Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - last of the major "repairs" today 1993 325is #44 JP - currently lacking suspension, next on the project list, may make a guest appearance at Laguna on New Year's Eve :-) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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#9. WTT: Dinan Exhaust for something else. - from Ty Vilhauer
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 13:53:36 -0800 From: "Ty Vilhauer" <quest@pacifier.com> Subject: WTT: Dinan Exhaust for something else. Looking to trade my Dinan Gen2 exhaust, would really like the ACS one but I'm open to other offers. Not interested in AA.

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#10. Best way to store an M3 - from Gaudio, Stefano
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Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2004 17:22:20 -0500 From: "Gaudio, Stefano" <Stefano.Gaudio@NERA.com> Subject: Best way to store an M3 Here is the dilemma. For the winter I'll be driving my "spare" car a '97 Nissan Maxima SE 5spd (nothing great but it'll get the job done). This means that my '98 M3 will be sitting pretty with snow shoes in a heated garage waiting for warmer weather/temperatures. NOW the question: Should I drive it once in a while to keep everything in working conditions (battery, fluids, brakes) OR Should I NOT since that once every 1 or 2 weeks start up will accelerate engine wear due to the lack of initial lubrication since close to no oil will be on the engine walls? But then again no start-up for 2-3 months (that's all I can last w/o her) will make a really dry start-up with even worse engine wear? What to do? P.S. It has snow shoes on because I was planning on driving it all winter long, but the winter Maxima seems a better idea. Thanks in advance Stefano _____________________________________________________________ This e-mail and any attachments may be confidential or legally privileged. If you received this message in error or are not the intended recipient, you should destroy the e-mail message and any attachments or copies, and you are prohibited from retaining, distributing, disclosing or using any information contained herein. Please inform us of the erroneous delivery by return e-mail. Thank you for your cooperation. _____________________________________________________________

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