E36M3 #4042

Friday, December 17, 2004 12:45:32

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#1. Kids, don't try this at home.... - from Chester Wong
#2. RE: Stupid Human Tricks - from Vince Throckmorton
#3. Re: [E36M3] Cold Natured - from Theodore Serbinski
#4. RE: [E36M3] head units and connections - from jakeadavis@comcast.net
#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... - from docwyte@comcast.net
#6. Re: [E36M3] head units and connections - from Greg Cagle
#7. Re: [E36M3] OT: Stupid human tricks; changing to winter tires - from docwyte@comcast.net
#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... - from Kent L. Shephard
#9. Radio Problem: FM Band out... - from scott noltensmeier
#10. [E36M3] Was: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions...Now Mini Cooper S - from Wayne Miller
#11. Re[2]: [E36M3] head units and connections - from Andrej Dolenc

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#1. Kids, don't try this at home.... - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 08:14:52 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Kids, don't try this at home.... http://www.easttyroneemedia.co.uk/wrb1%20site/Videos/crazym5.WMV YEOOOOWWW!!! =====

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#2. RE: Stupid Human Tricks - from Vince Throckmorton
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:27:52 -0600 From: "Vince Throckmorton" <vince@rjthrockmorton.com> Subject: RE: Stupid Human Tricks What you need is a 6, 8 or 10 foot pipe! You'll be able to loosen them with one finger. VINCE THROCKMORTON R.J. Throckmorton Sales Company 2650 Ossenfort Rd. Wildwood, MO 63038 TEL:636-227-7222 FAX:636-458-3585 MBL:314-614-0165 www.rjthrockmorton.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Cold Natured - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 12:15:11 -0500 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Cold Natured I had a similar problem with my old 95 325i... right around the 100k mark, so I swapped in a new waterpump and thermostat and the car heated up correctly again. ted

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#4. RE: [E36M3] head units and connections - from jakeadavis@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:22:51 +0000 From: jakeadavis@comcast.net Subject: RE: [E36M3] head units and connections Alpine makes fine speakers. Check http://www.autotoys.com/New_Tech/DIY_2000/BMW_ALPINE_RADIO/bmwalpineradiospeaker.html There are probably more speakers on the market than any other piece of auto audio gear and they arguably make the biggest difference in the final sound of the system. Biggest recommendation is listen to them! While we can make audiophile arguments all day about which sound the best, the one that you like is, in the final argument, the right one. Specifically for the E36, I'd make some recommendations, based in part on installation ease. Two approaches, use the stock locations as much as possible (for stealth) or buy a set of speaker 'pods' like the Q-logics that replace the kick panel (http://www.qlogic.ws/2003/home/). Stock location pretty much means a 3 way system. Speaker pods allow easy installation and use of a 2 way system. My bias is toward a really good set up front...to my tastes the rears are just for fill (if even that). That said, there are some 3 way systems that are easy to install and make. I also preferred the stock locations as the soundstage is higher. I felt the kick panel installs I listened to had the soundstage down around my waist and knees. My own choice was the Dynaudio System 340 (not a cheap choice!) http://www.dynaudio.com/ . The mid and tweeter replaced the factory bits with just a little trimming. The 7" midbass went in the kick panel and did require a little metal work. Stock rear speakers are there, but rarely used. A 'bass-ackwards' sub is in the trunk, possibly to be replaced with the stealthboxes. Boston Acoustics makes a mid and high end 3 way system which should work. Enough rambling.... Jake -------------- Original message -------------- > > Does anyone have any informed opinions on Alpine's speakers? > > Reed > > > > Buy the Alpine 9835, use its internal amp and spring for a > > front set of Boston, Infinity, or similar midpriced separates > > and it'll kill the stock system. > >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:27:15 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... Damn, $27k? That's a pretty good chunk of change. Awfully close to a Mitsu Evo/WRX STi at that point... > Slightly OT but following that thought, we've recently ordered a new Mini > Cooper S as a daily driver to supplement the M3. The idea is to avoid winter > driving and limit the miles put on the M3 so that it'll last "forever." > Optioned with almost everything - now including a limited slip diff for > $500, woohoo! - the Mini came out to over $27K, so it's not quite the cheap > and cheerful fun it used to be. Still, not too bad. >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] head units and connections - from Greg Cagle
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:31:38 -0800 From: Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] head units and connections A few quibbles - using the stock locations on the E36 doesn't necessarily force a 3 way system installation. I installed a fine set of Polk Audio separates in the stock location and just didn't use the midrange location - I left it filled with the original speaker but it's not wired to anything. Regarding the soundstage, the Sony head unit I have now has something called "DSO" (for Dynamic Soundstage Optimization or something like that) that does a great job of fixing the soundstage issues. Second, about the rear deck being "mostly fill." It's possible to put good 6x9s back there, and with a good amp you can get fairly strong bass, although not much else 8^). - Greg jakeadavis@comcast.net wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:22:51 +0000 From: jakeadavis@comcast.net > Subject: RE: [E36M3] head units and connections > > Alpine makes fine speakers. Check > http://www.autotoys.com/New_Tech/DIY_2000/BMW_ALPINE_RADIO/bmwalpineradiospeaker.html > > > There are probably more speakers on the market than any other piece > of auto audio gear and they arguably make the biggest difference in > the final sound of the system. Biggest recommendation is listen to > them! While we can make audiophile arguments all day about which > sound the best, the one that you like is, in the final argument, the > right one. > > Specifically for the E36, I'd make some recommendations, based in > part on installation ease. Two approaches, use the stock locations as > much as possible (for stealth) or buy a set of speaker 'pods' like > the Q-logics that replace the kick panel > (http://www.qlogic.ws/2003/home/). Stock location pretty much means a > 3 way system. Speaker pods allow easy installation and use of a 2 way > system. > > My bias is toward a really good set up front...to my tastes the rears > are just for fill (if even that). That said, there are some 3 way > systems that are easy to install and make. I also preferred the stock > locations as the soundstage is higher. I felt the kick panel installs > I listened to had the soundstage down around my waist and knees. > > My own choice was the Dynaudio System 340 (not a cheap choice!) > http://www.dynaudio.com/ . The mid and tweeter replaced the factory > bits with just a little trimming. The 7" midbass went in the kick > panel and did require a little metal work. Stock rear speakers are > there, but rarely used. A 'bass-ackwards' sub is in the trunk, > possibly to be replaced with the stealthboxes. > > Boston Acoustics makes a mid and high end 3 way system which should > work. > > Enough rambling.... > > Jake > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > >> Does anyone have any informed opinions on Alpine's speakers? >> >> Reed >> >> >> >>> Buy the Alpine 9835, use its internal amp and spring for a front >>> set of Boston, Infinity, or similar midpriced separates and it'll >>> kill the stock system. >> >> > > ************************************************* Please help support > the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport > http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering > http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > -- Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com

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#7. Re: [E36M3] OT: Stupid human tricks; changing to winter tires - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:32:28 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Stupid human tricks; changing to winter tires An IMpact gun with 650 ft lbs of torque in reverse is the great equalizer! Well, that and making sure that the shop doesn't gorilla torque the bolts on in the first place... -josh -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 04:22:28 -0800 (PST) > From: Jason Olin > Subject: OT: Stupid human tricks; changing to winter tires > > Ok- > > This does not make me look very good, but I thought my misery might bring a > smirk to the group. Disclaimer: I am a very amateur mechanic (Miata: no > problem; 97 M3: problem). > > So, it was time to change the wheels with the summer tires to the wheels with > the winter tires. My little 20th month old boy watched as I took the BMW lug > wrench (from the trunk) and started to loosen the nuts. So, having noticed that > the local repair shop (Rolfs) had overtorqued them, I took the wrench, attached > a large 3-foot cast iron pipe to the end of it, and started hopping on it. No > problem! Hop one-- hop two-- and snap, the bolts loosen up. A few minutes > later I've got the rear wheels changed. My boy smiles at his Daddy's funny > hopping dance. This method had seemed to work fine in the past, though I did > bash my thumb onto the hood once a couple of years back when a particularly > tight bolt gave way. So now, I keep my hands out of the way from the car. > > On to the front wheels. The first bolt goes fine. The second bolt was not so > easy, until I realized that I had the wrench facing the wrong way and was > actually tightening the thing?! It was the third bolt that got me. I was > hopping and hopping, trying to take my mass and convert it into kinetic energy. > Except, this-- I slipped. My foot twisted suddenly, and OUCH! I sprained the > damn thing. Now I was really hopping, but this time in pain! My boy laughs at > his Daddy's new funny hopping dance. I limped back into the house, where my > wife reprimanded me for being an idiot who is too lazy to toss the wheels into > the car and bring it to the shop. > > Today I'm bringing the car back to Rolfs and letting them do it. ...and so this > brings up a question-- > > How do you loosen really tight lug nuts? Or should I not give up and start > using my one good foot that's left?? Or should I build a platform and drop > heavy weights onto the wrench? I'm sure there's a physicist out there who could > tell me exactly how high the platform needs to be and the size of the mass. > > Happy holidays, > > Jason > > PS-- I should point out that in removing my old shifter knob I was able to pull > it out without bashing my own head. So, there is hope. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 09:41:22 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... Hi, My brother has an "S'. He paid about $27K a couple of years ago. Not a cheap date. To get the Works package be prepared for about another $4500 above that. A Mini-S with the hot engine can set you back close to $35K out the door. Kent docwyte@comcast.net wrote: >Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 17:27:15 +0000 >From: docwyte@comcast.net >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions... > >Damn, $27k? That's a pretty good chunk of change. Awfully close to a Mitsu Evo/WRX STi at that point... > > > -- Please sponsor my daughter's school raffle, education is important. For more information: http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton1a.jpg http://www.kls-consulting.com/shelton/shelton2a.jpg Tickets are available through me.

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#9. Radio Problem: FM Band out... - from scott noltensmeier
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 10:25:11 -0800 (PST) From: scott noltensmeier <snoltens@yahoo.com> Subject: Radio Problem: FM Band out... The FM on my radio just went out. The AM, cassette, and CD are OK. - Any thoughts??? Thanks, Scott E36M3 96' 2d

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#10. [E36M3] Was: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions...Now Mini Cooper S - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:38:50 -0500 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: [E36M3] Was: A-pillar gauges and cooling questions...Now Mini Cooper S My dad bought an S when they first came out and I drove it for a few months. It really is a fun car - quick but not fast and it handles very well. The car rides a bit rough but not too bad, the steering feel is great and you can hold lots of stuff and park in anywhere. We considered the Cooper Works package when it was released but at $4,500 + dealer installation ($1k), it didn't seem worth it. A few months ago we replaced just the pulley and that made a tremendous difference. Now with the pulley and the cold weather here in NYC, the car has graduated to being at the tail end of fast. One could argue that the replacement pulley could void the warranty but with the $4,500+ saved I could probably buy a new engine if it ever came to that. I still have to do the software update from Superchips (I am a dealer) but I know people who run new pulleys without any software and have no issues. -Wayne

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#11. Re[2]: [E36M3] head units and connections - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Fri, 17 Dec 2004 13:44:42 -0500 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re[2]: [E36M3] head units and connections Greg Cagle writes: > A few quibbles - using the stock locations on the E36 doesn't > necessarily force a 3 way system installation. I installed a > fine set of Polk Audio separates in the stock location and just > didn't use the midrange location - I left it filled with the > original speaker but it's not wired to anything. Ditto, mine is set up the same way. Only mine are Boston speakers. > Second, about the rear deck being "mostly fill." It's possible > to put good 6x9s back there, and with a good amp you can get > fairly strong bass, although not much else 8^). You can replace the rear speakers with JL Audio Stealthboxes for even more bass. I had them for a while, and didn't particularly care for how they sounded (a bit sloppy, and they didn't hit that deep). I pulled the rear speakers and have a sub in the trunk. The speaker holes are all that's needed to get lotsa clean bass into the passenger cabin. Andrej

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