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#1. Re: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes - from David Ripton
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:13:54 -0800 From: David Ripton <dripton@ripton.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes On 2004.12.21 17:24:29 +0000, Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) wrote: > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:15:05 -0500 > From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> > Subject: Winter tire sizes > > I'm in the process of selecting new winter tires for the 1998 M3/4. > Are any of you running 16" wheels w/winter tires on them? I have a Tire Rack package from a few years ago, with 16" ATP Type 5 M-Contour lookalikes and Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22s. 16" wheels picked at random are unlikely to clear the M3's brakes, but these ones fit fine. The LM-22s feel more like a good all-season tire than a hardcore snow tire. They don't howl at highway speed. They don't have miracle microcell compound. They don't get rock-hard when cold or noticably squishy when a little hot. I wouldn't want to autocross on them, but they're not so awful in the dry that I'm twitching to take them off on the first semi-nice day in February, like I was when I had "real" Blizzaks. I'm happy with this setup, in flatland Virginia. If I were much further north or higher up I'd want to garage the M3 for winter and get a semi-beater Suburu. If I were a bit further south I'd probably use all-seasons on 17" wheels rather than mild snow tires on 16" wheels. -- David Ripton dripton@ripton.net
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:20:56 -0500 From: "Carey Probst" <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes I agree they feel like a good all season tire but they are VERY good snow tires. I've used the M3 air dam as a snow plow with those tires in 6" of snow and never slowed down. Not a recommended method but occasionally required in the wilds of upstate NY where we get real snow. Also a very good, not summer performance, tire for dry winter days. Carey -----Original Message----- From: David Ripton [mailto:dripton@ripton.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 9:15 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:13:54 -0800 From: David Ripton <dripton@ripton.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes On 2004.12.21 17:24:29 +0000, Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) wrote: > Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:15:05 -0500 > From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> > Subject: Winter tire sizes > > I'm in the process of selecting new winter tires for the 1998 M3/4. > Are any of you running 16" wheels w/winter tires on them? I have a Tire Rack package from a few years ago, with 16" ATP Type 5 M-Contour lookalikes and Bridgestone Blizzak LM-22s. 16" wheels picked at random are unlikely to clear the M3's brakes, but these ones fit fine. The LM-22s feel more like a good all-season tire than a hardcore snow tire. They don't howl at highway speed. They don't have miracle microcell compound. They don't get rock-hard when cold or noticably squishy when a little hot. I wouldn't want to autocross on them, but they're not so awful in the dry that I'm twitching to take them off on the first semi-nice day in February, like I was when I had "real" Blizzaks. I'm happy with this setup, in flatland Virginia. If I were much further north or higher up I'd want to garage the M3 for winter and get a semi-beater Suburu. If I were a bit further south I'd probably use all-seasons on 17" wheels rather than mild snow tires on 16" wheels. -- David Ripton dripton@ripton.net ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#3. Re: Fan and fan clutch needed? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:25:04 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: Fan and fan clutch needed? on 12/21/04 8:34 PM, "Som Naderi" <som@dimensionracing.com> wrote: > If I'm planning on adding a water temp gauge to my A-pillar, > there's already a sensor for this, right? The one that goes to the dash? The ECT (Engine Coolant Temperature) sensor supplies a signal to the ECU, which then supplies a highly filtered signal to the dash temperature gauge. AFAIK you can't connect an aftermarket gauge to the stock ECT sensor, so you will need to install a separate sensor. Neil 96 M3 - Bastard child MB 300E - 235K miles and on its way out 525iT - Looks as if we've found a nice 2003 with 24K miles 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell Mini - Cooper S on order
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#4. Re: Winter tire sizes - from david kroth
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Winter tire sizes > Are any of you running 16" wheels w/winter tires on > them? Yes. Nokian Hakkapelitta RSi 205/55-16. They are on Sport Edition Fox 6 16" wheels from The Tire Rack. Much softer ride than 17" wheels/tires. But it's winter and I'm driving in the snow... ===== David Kroth david_kroth@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? - from arionatof@comcast.net
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:43:16 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? I don't have it with me now, but I use Neil's instruction posted here. You can search it in the website. Chuck's website also has a lot of useful technical tips: http://www.brazeauracing.com/tech.htm HTH, -Johnny Disabled 98 M3/4 -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:45:08 -0500 > From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? > > I'm not certain yet, but it looks like I may have a shock/strut replacement > coming in the very near future on our '95 M3. I've done a bit of digging > around on the internet and haven't found any tutorials for the front end. > Does anybody have a good web link for this kicking around, or perhaps some > BTDT tips? The car is bone stock now and since I want to put as little > money into this repair as possible my inclination is to keep it this way. > What is the cheapest acceptable solution for tired shocks? > > Thanks for your help, > > Kevin > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:51:35 -0600 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? I used the Koni cut-n-gut by Noah referenced on Chuck's site for my upgrade. Mel -----Original Message----- From: arionatof@comcast.net [mailto:arionatof@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 8:44 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 14:43:16 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? I don't have it with me now, but I use Neil's instruction posted here. You can search it in the website. Chuck's website also has a lot of useful technical tips: http://www.brazeauracing.com/tech.htm HTH, -Johnny Disabled 98 M3/4 -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org > Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:45:08 -0500 > From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? > > I'm not certain yet, but it looks like I may have a shock/strut replacement > coming in the very near future on our '95 M3. I've done a bit of digging > around on the internet and haven't found any tutorials for the front end. > Does anybody have a good web link for this kicking around, or perhaps some > BTDT tips? The car is bone stock now and since I want to put as little > money into this repair as possible my inclination is to keep it this way. > What is the cheapest acceptable solution for tired shocks? > > Thanks for your help, > > Kevin > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Beer payment (slightly OT) - from Newman, Christopher
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:53:39 -0500 From: "Newman, Christopher" <CNewman@LSAC.org> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Beer payment (slightly OT) I was looking for a part once and a list-member had just what I needed. We initially figured some beers would work, but then decided cash would be better. Not quite the same, but I printed a picture of a cold one in a frosty mug and wrapped it around the cash before sending it to him. Anyway, he got a laugh out of it. And the part I received fits and looks great. All in all, a positive experience. Cheers !!! ------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 16:50:45 -0800 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Beer payment (slightly OT) You know how many of us sometimes respond to help/paying back someone with "I'll buy you a beer"? - that's typical car-work currency :-) But this being an (obviously) geographically-diverse group, only in rare circumstances does this actually happen (Hi Jonathan! :-)). Well, yesterday, I received a unexpected package. I opened it up and inside were 2 bottles of beer. OK, beer through the mail, cool,
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 06:48:03 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? Hi, Actually the cheapest solution isn't to stay bone stock. The Struts from the dealer cost more than Bilstein Sport shocks. I just replaced the suspension on my '97 several months ago. I went with sport shocks and stock springs. I upgraded the CA bushings to urethane and upgraded the RSM and added the reinforcement plates. All the parts ran about $850 and the install was done by a local shop near my house in Castro Valley, Ca. Kent M540 wrote: >Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 08:45:08 -0500 >From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> >Subject: Shock/Strut Replacement Tutorial/Tips? > >I'm not certain yet, but it looks like I may have a shock/strut replacement >coming in the very near future on our '95 M3. I've done a bit of digging >around on the internet and haven't found any tutorials for the front end. >Does anybody have a good web link for this kicking around, or perhaps some >BTDT tips? The car is bone stock now and since I want to put as little >money into this repair as possible my inclination is to keep it this way. >What is the cheapest acceptable solution for tired shocks? > >Thanks for your help, > >Kevin > > > > > -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." 1918, Theodore Roosevelt
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Paintless dent repair wants to drill holes in my car - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 10:00:17 -0500 From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Paintless dent repair wants to drill holes in my car Only hacks will drill into a car for paintless dent removal. I've had it done once during a CCA meeting and the guy was telling me about some hacks that are too lazy to take the interior apart to do the job right. The dent he took out for me was in the driver's side rear fender just under the window (coupe). He did a great job. -Bobby > -----Original Message----- > From: Jason Knight > > My wife took the M3 to a paintless dent repair place > in order to have some dings fixed as a Xmas gift. > They want to drill a hole in the part of the door that > the latch is on, and the corresponding area on the > body of the car in order to reach the inside of the > door and the quarter panel. I'm thinking the removing > the door panel and the interior panels would give them > access to these areas without having to take a drill > to the car. They said that they will then patch the > holes, but this frankly seems a little backwards - > drilling into the car to remove some dents. Anyone > have experience with paintless dent removal, > specifically on the door or the body panel aft of the > door? > > Thanks for any words of wisdom. > > Jason >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes - from George R Carr Jr
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 09:07:24 -0700 From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Winter tire sizes At 5:24 PM -0600 12/21/04, Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) wrote: >Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:15:05 -0500 >From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> >Subject: Winter tire sizes > >I'm in the process of selecting new winter tires for the 1998 M3/4. > > > >I have Mille Miglia Glide II 17x7.5 wheels to mount them to. I would >like to install 215/55R17 but tire rack indicates that this size tire >would rub and I must go with the 215/45R17 size tire. > > > >Does anybody have experience with oversize winter tires on their sedan >and are there rub issues you had to address? > > > >Are any of you running 16" wheels w/winter tires on them? > > 4" fresh on the roads this morning and still snowing in Boulder, CO. All season radials in real snow country are really not good enough. I always recommend that those who drive in Colorado in the winter get some real snows. This applies to all vehicles including my wife's Subaru WRX which has 4 tires of the same variety as my M3. Most of the wrecks on I-70 going to/from ski country involve one or more SUVs with all season radials. It's exciting watching SUV's in front of you doing 360s on the Interstate! We see it at least a couple times each year ... Just the facts, mam. We have been running 205/55 Gislaved NordFrost II (with studs) mounted on 16" wheels on my 98 M3/4. We live in Colorado and ski a lot so I wanted something that would be able to get us there and back ... no problem. When the snow gets too deep it's tough for anything to get through. I love going around the x-Californians in their all season SUVs! If I could just get those slow vehicles out of the left lane. Tirerack recommended the Borbet typeT in a 16 x something in 1998 and promised that they would not need spacers. The wheels arrived (via my local "Tire Source") with two spacers which are needed on the front. They also did not ship longer bolts for use with the spacers. The wheels and tires have worked out very well for me. Now in their sixth winter I'm ready to replace the tires (something about stripped out studs .... how did that happen ...). I will be getting NordFrost III's (the new model). When the winter roads are clear I drive the Roadster (with the hardtop mounted in winter) and leave the studs at home. When the snow goes away each spring, the M3 gets the Pilots back. -- ====== __ __ George R Carr Jr / / / / | / | ______ 98M3/4 BL/SS / / / / |/ | o/______\o BMWCCA 156632 JTD/ / / / shark | (**=00=**) georgercarrjr@earthlink.net/ / / /__/|__/|__| []*-XX-*[] also 00MRoadster (Sharkster)
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#11. Re: [E36M3] Paintless dent repair wants to drill holes in my car - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 22 Dec 2004 11:12:24 -0500 From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Paintless dent repair wants to drill holes in my car I had the paintless dent repair done by Brian Roemer, in NJ. Great job, however, he could not remove a crease near the door latch because there is a metal plate that protects the latch. He also showed me how he could open my "locked" door without a key in less than 30 seconds...so much for the security plate! Don't have them drill!!! -- Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA