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#1. Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats - from Hans Batra
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:37:21 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats Does this mean that an M3 coupe with fold-down rear seats with benefit from a rear strut bar? If so, is there any bar that is recommended over others? regards, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:27:18 -0800 > From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > > David, > > I am sure anything is possible, but mine has the non-fold down rear seats > also. > If you remove the trunk liner on the back of the seat area, you will find > that there > is a welded in shear panel behind the seats. I don't think it would be a > good idea > to mess with the unibody to remove this panel. The good news is that it > does add > some stiffness to the unibody. > > Chris > 97 M3/4 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:32:03 -0800 (PST) > > From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Fold Down Rear Seats > > > > > > My 1998 4 door has standard, non-fold down > > rear seats. Anyone ever swap them for the > > fold down version? > > > > Is it even possible? > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats - from Chris Teague
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 16:54:20 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats Hans, The panel behind the seats is loaded in shear, so it would help the torsional stiffiness of the unibody. Since the rear strut bars I have seen are hinged, I can't see how they would help the torsional stiffiness of the unibody. And since they don't connect to the spring area, like in front, the only help a rear strut bar could add is local stiffiness for the shocks, and I doubt it does even that. And even if it did, you would need to be running some expensive shocks (Moton's, etc.) before I would worry about a strut bar. That's my $0.02. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:37:21 -0500 > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > > Does this mean that an M3 coupe with fold-down rear seats with benefit > from > a rear strut bar? > > If so, is there any bar that is recommended over others? > > regards, > Hans
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats - from Hans Batra
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:58:56 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats Chris, Thanks for the information. Am I correct to think then that even a non-hinged bar would not really add much torsonial stiffness to the unibody, due it's mounting points? regards, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> To: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > Hans, > > The panel behind the seats is loaded in shear, so it would help the > torsional stiffiness of the unibody. Since the rear strut bars I have seen > are hinged, I can't see how they would help the torsional stiffiness of the > unibody. And since they don't connect to the spring area, like in front, > the only help a rear strut bar could add is local stiffiness for the shocks, > and I doubt it does even that. And even if it did, you would need to be > running some expensive shocks (Moton's, etc.) before I would worry about a > strut bar. That's my $0.02. > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:44 PM > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > > > > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:37:21 -0500 > > From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > > > > Does this mean that an M3 coupe with fold-down rear seats with benefit > > from > > a rear strut bar? > > > > If so, is there any bar that is recommended over others? > > > > regards, > > Hans > >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats - from Chris Teague
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 17:31:33 -0800 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats Hans, That's correct. Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> To: "Chris Teague" <cteague@cox.net>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 4:58 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats > Chris, > > Thanks for the information. Am I correct to think then that even a > non-hinged bar would not really add much torsonial stiffness to the > unibody, > due it's mounting points? > > regards, > Hans
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#5. 2 problems - from driver8 ///M3
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Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:50:15 -0800 (PST) From: driver8 ///M3 <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: 2 problems 1. with all the recent talk about thermostat problems, i noticed that my temperature guage needle is not getting all the way to the middle. earlier in the week when the temps were in the teens i could get it to the middle sitting at a stoplight by reving the engine to about 2k rpm. but once i started driving again it fell back to the 10 o'clock position. from reading the recent posts i guess it needs replacing. does anyone have a link to a decent set of directions...i wouldn't mind trying to do it myself (and will need to flush & fill radiator too)? 2. weird problem. i'm getting a strange whining sound coming from the engine compartment. this happens when braking...just as i come to a complete stop. it continues for a short time, with the sound sort of dying out. but when i accelerate again, the noise gets louder as rpms increase. it seems to be even louder if i'm turning and braking at the same time. no dash lights/warnings have appeared, and it performance doesnt seem to be affected. any ideas? thanks, russell
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#6. Re: [E36M3] BTG Racing lightened flywheel installed - from David Ngo
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 00:18:45 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] BTG Racing lightened flywheel installed Okay, I'm writing this from London after a few hours of sleep on a plane, so forgive any weird spelling. :) I have had this clutch/flywheel/pressure plate combo on my car for over two years now. I wholeheartedly agree with all of Rob's comments (even the ones about Chester ;-) ) - the package is outstanding. No fitment problems, clutch pedal feel is perfect, and the pick-up point is pretty much stock. Chatter is minimal - it's only barely noticeable when the car's stopped, the tranny fluid is hot, and the AC is on. My car does not lead an easy life - since we installed the flywheel on my car, it's been to over 30 autocrosses with an average of at least 10 runs each and six days on the track. I also use it as my daily driver and have driven about 25k miles since the install (mostly local stuff, lots of stop and go.) We recently dropped my tranny and found the flywheel in practically as-new condition and the clutch with little wear. With autocrossing, I'm most concerned with the flywheel's effect in the lower gears, and it has been excellent. I've read where some people don't recommend lightweight flywheels for the street; I don't know why, there haven't been any detrimental effects that I can perceive (other than having to shift a bit faster since the RPMs drop quicker!) I would highly recommend this package to anyone. My disclaimer - I also consider Chester and Jim to be good friends. Happy New Year! Dave <-- already jetlagged --- "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 10:36:59 -0800 > From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> > Subject: BTG Racing lightened flywheel installed > > With all of the talk about clutches and lightened > flywheels, I thought I'd > chime in and share my recent experience of > installing the kit that Chester > Wong and Jim El Nabli of BTG Racing put together for > me. As a disclaimer, > they are both guys that I consider to be good > friends. They also happen to > offer a kick-ass product and terrific customer > service. > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 05:29:46 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Fold Down Rear Seats Having just removed mine (they're 4 sale BTW) I can tell you that there are 5 brackets used for the install/pivot of the seat backs. A large, spring loaded bracket in the center at the bottom, another bracket at each side on the bottom and 2 kinda T-bars at the top that the seat backs latch onto when up. These brackets are welded in. All but the center bottom bracket are spot welded. You'd also have to have the mounting points for the side bolsters, If they aren't the same as cars with fold-down seats. If you want pics, contact me offline. When I can get some daylight, I'll be happy to oblige. If you're interested in the complete rear seat package (5 pieces plus seat belt latches), black leather with M-stripes, excellent condition, $300 plus shipping and 3% if Paypal is used. Jay > Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2004 11:32:03 -0800 (PST) > From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> > Subject: Fold Down Rear Seats > > > My 1998 4 door has standard, non-fold down > rear seats. Anyone ever swap them for the > fold down version? > > Is it even possible? > > > > ===== > David Kroth > david_kroth@yahoo.com
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#8. Leaky Crankcase valve on '95 - from Patrick Kelly
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 10:19:27 -0500 From: "Patrick Kelly" <pkelly@agincourtcapital.com> Subject: Leaky Crankcase valve on '95 I think this may only apply to the 3.0L, but I had some seepage from the crankcase vent hoses that emerge right above and behind the oil filter canister, so I picked up all the parts necessary to R&R the whole shebang. Turns out it was overkill on my part, since after examining everything, I could probably have just gotten away with replacing the white rubber O-ring that seals the plastic hose fitting into the cast VANOS cover. Not that snaking new hoses under the intake manifold wasn't fun <insert sarcasm emoticon>. BTW, why are there two hoses, anyway? The small one goes into the underside of the intake manifold, the larger diameter hose plugs into the "elbow" bellows. Sorta redundant, but what do I know? Happy New Year, Y'all Pat Kelly pkelly@agincourtcapital.com
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#9. Toying with selling the M3, make offer! - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 21:25:11 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Toying with selling the M3, make offer! Might need to move onto a 4 door car soon due to impending family expansion. :-) Toying with the idea of selling the M3. Here's the specs... 1995 M3 110k miles, fastidiously maintained. Synthetic oil and BMW oil filters every 5k miles. Cloth/Suede sport Vader seats (very rare!) Cosmos black with custom front ltw graphics ZKW euro headlites with 4300k xenons, Umnitza pnp Geniune ltw rear wing, with 3rd brake light and removable risers Geniune ltw front corner splitters Active Autowerke supercharger kit with intercooler (~300rwhp) TC Kline true choice coilovers, 450# front, 500# rear springs, externally adjustable koni's all the way round, Ground Control front camber/caster plates, TC Kline rear monoball shock mounts. BMW lower cross brace UUC Swaybarbarian swaybars with Turner Motorsport adjustable front swaybar endlinks on both sides. UUC stage 2 lightweight flywheel with E34 M5 clutch set UUC Tranny mount enforcers Ron Stygar short shift kit Schroth quick fit Rallye 4 harnesses for driver and passenger Two sets of wheels/tires, 17" Hakka's for snow and forged polished ltw 8.5" wheels for summer. M3 trunk mat, M3 floor mats Very nice stereo system with Alpine head unit, MB quart, JL Audio stealth boxes and XM radio. 3.23 lsd rear diff from '99 M3 3 spoke airbag steering wheel from '99 M3 Lighted shift knob from '99 M3 Supersprint dtm exhaust Tinted windows 35% all the way round Clifford alarm with keyless entry Euro clear front, side markers and euro rear tail lites I have a whole book of receipts on this car since I've owned it. Water pump, thermostat, radiator, O2 sensor and knock sensors replaced within the last year. BimmerHaus has worked on this car and can give an honest opinion of it. It reels in E46 M3's on straightaways, it's very quick, but with a completely linear power band. It's one of the best setup cars I've ever driven and tough as nails. Completely docile on the street, but a terror on the track. Price is dependant on how you want the car equipped, I can remove items if you don't want them, figure base price of KBB value of $10,500. I'd prefer to sell the car intact. -josh
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Toying with selling the M3, make offer! - from Mike VanAmburgh
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Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 22:24:23 +0000 From: Mike VanAmburgh <mvanamburgh@charter.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Toying with selling the M3, make offer! C'mon Josh, you don't actually want to sell this car. You just wanted to make us drool over your mods list. ;-) Mike > From: docwyte@comcast.net