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#1. RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? - from George R Carr Jr
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 13:13:01 -0700 From: George R Carr Jr <georgercarrjr@earthlink.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? If you have the money ... another way to effectively get more HP is to reduce weight. There are "bolt on" carbon fiber replacements for the hood, rear deck, and door panels. How many pounds per horse? This has other effects as well on tires and suspension. -- =========================== georgercarrjr@earthlink.net
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#2. RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? - from Stefano G
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:30:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? Mel you are not alone. Here is the deal in my perspective: 300HP = 60HP = $5K mods < results at the track than $5K in suspension and tires. I'm not an hp guy, more of a handling guy and that's why I originally bought an e36M3. More power would be nice but I'll take suspension improvements over hp improvements any day. Nonetheless the suspension is just about perfect for the street. Soft for the track but that's another story. If you want to spend a few $$$ and get significant hp bump get a used z06 which are about to go very cheaply as soon as the new 500hp c6 z06 start hitting the road in large numbers. Not to mention the handling is not bad either. P.S. If anyone goes for the 'vette, make sure to floor it every time you look at the interior, it'll make you feel better, because it's no BMW inside. Stefano Content with a 240-250hp (Dinan chip) 0-60mph ~5.5s '98 m3 with track tires. In response to... ************************************************** Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 09:53:27 -0600 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? I am really at a loss to understand why anyone would spend $7K to $10K on hp mods. I had typed a long series of questions, but decided they were accusational and deleted them. As far the M3 goes I think the cam kit is the upper limit of rationality, but I must be _waaay_ off the mark. Please reset my calibration. Mel ************************************************** _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#3. RE: 300 hp - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:40:14 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: RE: 300 hp on 1/19/05 2:39 PM, "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > I surfed around on Bimmerforums last night and here is a cost effective way > of getting 300hp. There are a few folks (from the forum) using modified cams > from DSR (Dyno Spot Racing http://www.dynospotracing.com/cams.htm ) I was amused that their web site, after a reasoned explanation of why advertised cam duration values aren't reliable, then lists their cams by, you guessed it, duration: "256 Street Performance" "Super Evo 264" "Evo 1.5 268" Or should we think that those numbers are only coincidental to duration? They also give an almost entirely specious list of benefits of regrind cams versus billet cams. I say "almost" because one certainly is correct: price. Neil 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - New arrival, Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S on order
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#4. 300 hp/ costs... - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:09:19 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: 300 hp/ costs... Actually its less than 2k the 540 afm used are running 150, injectors are 200. These are the prices I paid for my stuff. I missed a set of injectors for 170. 800 for Dinan EPROM/flash!! That's a rip off! Turner/conforti stuff is as good, or better. I think the shark injector is only 300 or so...My chip was 249 for all the mods I have. DSR cams are 650 without core, with core 450..used M3 cams go for 300-400 better to sell them, the matching GAIC chip for the cams 200 dollars. Without the matching chip tuned for the cams its a waste of money getting cams. If I stay NA I will use the DSR stuff or whatever James has if cost is around DSR's, or Shriek's. I want to be able to rev the car to 7600 rpm. Turbo is where I am heading now, too easy to make nice HP numbers! Nothing like feeling some boost!! It's like adding extra crack to the crack habit!! Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team
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#5. RE: 300 hp/ costs... - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:21:57 -0500 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: 300 hp/ costs... > Actually its less than 2k the 540 afm used are running 150, injectors are 200. These are the prices I paid for my stuff. I missed a set of injectors for 170. Even better news :) > 800 for Dinan EPROM/flash!! That's a rip off! Turner/conforti stuff is as good, or better. I think the shark injector is only 300 or so...My chip was 249 for all the > mods I have. Gary, for us OBDII folks, the stock Shark one (with cams) will not work and JC will not sell his cammed software (comes only with his kit). So you are either left with Active's or Dinan's flash unit. Dinan has a nice program, you can get their Stage 1 flash for $399 and then with mods you an upgrade it to Stage 2, 3 etc each for $100 until you hit Stage 5. > Nothing like feeling some boost!! It's like adding extra crack to the crack habit!! OHHHHHH YEAH ;) Ahmad
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#6. Re: [E36M3] 300 hp/ costs... - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 14:22:10 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 300 hp/ costs... On Jan 19, 2005, at 2:19 PM, GGray657@aol.com wrote: > If I stay NA I will use the DSR stuff or whatever James has if cost is > around > DSR's, or Shriek's. I want to be able to rev the car to 7600 rpm. Will the accessories (water pump, alternator, etc) hold up to that? - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#7. RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:27:22 -0600 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 300HP??? Quote from Stefano: P.S. If anyone goes for the 'vette, make sure to floor it every time you look at the interior, it'll make you feel better, because it's no BMW inside. ----------------------------------------------------------- It's the squeaks and rattling that drove me crazy! Invest in a better stereo, or better yet a nice stainless exhaust to drown out the Chevrolet Assembly Line noise. Mel
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#8. RE: [E36M3] 300 hp/ costs... - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:31:06 -0600 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 300 hp/ costs... Ya know, there are 12 step programs for guys like you... The problem is that they usually feed your addiction rather than try and help you cure it. Babies do a better job of curing this affliction. Have you seen my Eddie Bauer car seat that matches my M3 interior? Mel -----Original Message----- From: GGray657@aol.com [mailto:GGray657@aol.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 4:19 PM To: E36M3 Nothing like feeling some boost!! It's like adding extra crack to the crack habit!! Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team
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#9. Re: [E36M3] 300 hp/ costs... - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 17:56:32 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] 300 hp/ costs... In a message dated 1/19/2005 4:30:48 PM Central Standard Time, mark@pdc-racing.net writes: Will the accessories (water pump, alternator, etc) hold up to that? Sure good to 8k+ never hear of anyone blowing acc up from 9k over revs.....It would be a great set up for my 3.38 diff..with 7600 redline I could use a 3.64/3.73 diff..def have to have a six speed then! I want one now..trying to errr gather my secret funds....I figure I better have ALL the toys I really want before we have the ultimate fund reducer UFR...Le Children upgrade, coming soon! Good new is it gives me someone to play whit Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team
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#10. Twelve step program V1.0 - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 18:13:00 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Twelve step program V1.0 Gary's twelve step BMW M3 program V 1.0 1. Get used 1995 M3 2. Make list of parts you really think are cool! 3. Make new list of parts you can actually afford to buy 4. Get ticket in newly purchased M3, shock officer Bob at the speed you attained by the time you passed his nice police car, 86 in a 35, from a 90 degree right hand turn from a stop light...Officer Bob actually laughed..still got ticket... 5. Watch insurance go up 6. Buy some parts make pile in shop like squirrel, gather and collect stage. (one year) 7. Put large squirrel nest of parts on car from one year of collecting, including 3.2 motor all at the same time...longer project than planned..optamistic plan of course.. 8. Miss time Vanos bend all twelve intake valves, pull head second time.. 9. Put head back on have someone else time it, go to track...break one intake valve faulty MFG part...Thanking God it did not drop into motor... Pull head AGAIN third time, 10. Put back together again....of course adding some extra NEWLY purchased parts.. get mad time vanos again runs like a monster!!! 11. Big grin drive for ohhh one week decide it needs more power, and a six speed.. 12. Decide a Turbo or a 3.5 would be good....begin V2.0 twelve step program..... Gary Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team