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#1. Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:09:15 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? Nope...they do get worn...as do the bearing ledges they ride in. We saw some visual wear on the bearing ledges and perhaps this hinders the ability to seal well and get pumped up. Having said that, we only changed out the hydraulic lifters on Dave Ngo's car and kept the used bearing ledges. His car is absolutely silent compared to mine. I think he's autox'ed a few times so maybe he can comment on before and after lifter tick while autoxing. Chester --- GGray657@aol.com wrote: > They do get worn, and make noise. I had the same problem with the VW's when I > > had them. The S52 may be different. =====
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#2. Re: lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? - from Neil Maller
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:28:15 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? on 1/24/05 4:16 PM, AVUSM3@aol.com wrote: > Does anyone have experience adding the Dual-pickup oil pump and oil pan from > the LTW, or 3.2L Euro to eliminate the problem? If so does it completely > take care of it? A considerably less expensive option, although probably not as ultimately effective as the LTW setup, is installing a Turner baffled oil pan (technically you install their baffles in your oil pan). I have one and it certainly helps. Neil 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - New arrival, Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S built and awaiting shipment
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#3. RE: [E36M3] 2nd gear shudder update and clutch question - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:32:59 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 2nd gear shudder update and clutch question Follow-up to my own comment: >Jeremy.. > >BTDT - spent an hour or so last week removing the knee panel >and laying on my head - the spring is there and as far as >I can tell - it's doing it's thing (although it's not really >noticeable.) It is connected at both ends. > >Thanks! > >Don I looked at the ETK for the E46/M3.. and guess what.. NO helper spring. The rest of the system looked the same except it looked possible that the slave cylinder is a larger diameter than the one on the E36/M3 (hard to REALLY tell on the ETK and they didn't give dimensions). If so - BMW must have tightened up their tolerances a bit in the clutch assembly since a larger slave would equate to less effort at the pedal, but also less travel at the clutch release bearing. >At 01:27 PM 1/24/2005, Jeremy Conners wrote: > > >Check to make sure the pedal assist spring doesn't have a problem. There is > >a spring that actually pulls the clutch pedal toward the floor after a set > >amount of travel. The assist alone cannot overcome a properly bled clutch, > >but if you ever have the line open and push the clutch you will see what I > >mean. Take a look at the ETK and verify that the parts are installed > >correctly and functioning properly. > > > >-Jeremy Best, _______D_o_n__________S_p_r_i_n_g__L_a_k_e__H_t_s____________©1946________ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ - http://www.njsbmwr.org/ '98 M3c/5, '03 525iT, '87 K75S
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#4. Re: Lifter ticking - from Steve Klein
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:29:32 -0600 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Re: Lifter ticking I replaced mine about a year or so ago and the ticking diminished for the most part but is still there from time to time. Has anyone replaced the bearing ledges that house the lifter bores? Since they're softer aluminum, I'd wonder if these wear enough to let some oil seep by, thereby lowering the effective pressure reaching the lifters at the ball check valves. I want to replace mine out of curiosity, but that will have to wait on cash. Steve On Jan 24, 2005, at 3:16 PM, E36M3 wrote: > From: GGray657@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW > oil pan? > > They do get worn, and make noise. I had the same problem with the VW's > when I > had them. The S52 may be different.
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#5. RE: [E36M3] Holy Price Increase!! - from Gerry Low
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:43:21 -0500 From: "Gerry Low" <gerry@parallel-mkt.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Holy Price Increase!! Jonathan, The Carbotech XP9 pads are $169 and $129 front and rear, respectively. Highlights of the product are as follows: * The initial bite is similar to the PF97 and modulation better. * Similar pad life. * The ceramic compound is not corrosive on wheels, calipers and car paint even after months on washing after a track event. * Easy clean-up with soap and water. * Rotor wear is excellent because the operating temperature starts at 250F. As an added bonus of the low operating temperature, the pads do not have to be taken out for street use. * Integrated spring clips produce no rattling. * Two additional track/race compounds (XP10 and XP11(new)) with more initial bite are available. * One street/autocross compound is available. Simply the best pad I have used in 28 years of Driving Schools. Gerry "Well, I just ordered a set of PF97 brake pads for my front brakes, as I actually liked them better than the 01 compound I tried, but MAN did they increase the prices! Last time I bought these they were under $145 with our discount. The 01s were a bit more, but I wanted to see if they were worth the money. The 97s, WITH our list discount came to $191!! Regular price was in the neighborhood of $220. As much as I love these pads, and they do seem to last quite a while, I think I just might start venturing out into some different brands. The number of track days I can get out of the 97s might very well be worth it, unless anyone's tried a pad that works as well and lasts as long... Anyone? Jonathan L." -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 1/21/2005
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#6. Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? - from David Ngo
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:21:39 -0800 (PST) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? The lifters still tick, but seem to quiet down a little quicker than before. The effect is minimal. They are considerably quieter in normal operating conditions, though. Anyone know if an Accusump would help? Dave --- Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 13:09:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup > oil pump and LTW oil pan? > > Nope...they do get worn...as do the bearing ledges > they ride in. We saw some > visual wear on the bearing ledges and perhaps this > hinders the ability to seal > well and get pumped up. Having said that, we only > changed out the hydraulic > lifters on Dave Ngo's car and kept the used bearing > ledges. His car is > absolutely silent compared to mine. I think he's > autox'ed a few times so maybe > he can comment on before and after lifter tick while > autoxing. > > Chester > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#7. Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW - from Tom Reynolds
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:53:47 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? I thought I read somewhere that the retaining springs were weak on the '95 M3? Would that have anything to do with it, maybe just get "upgraded" versions? Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 01:36 PM 01/24/2005 -0600, AVUSM3@aol.com wrote: > >Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:35:15 EST >From: AVUSM3@aol.com >Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? > > >In a message dated 1/24/2005 2:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, GGray657 >writes: > >Gary - > >Do you think the lifters physically wear out over time, or have they changed >the design on the OBDII cars? > >The lifter is a very simple design as far as I know - a hole for the oil to >enter to pump it up, and maybe a seal between the lifter and retainer? Do >you think it is the seal that is wearing? > >Thanks, > >John > >I think the only real solution is to stick new lifters in the car. I am >guessing you have a 95 with your email address. My 95 S50 motor ticked like it >was about to die it was horrible. I tried 10-30, 10-40, 20-50, regular >oil...and a bunch of different Mobil One..never made a difference..I have an S52 >motor in the car now and run 10-40 in it and it is fine. Never ticks...You may >need to put some newer lifters in it... > >Gary Gray >Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team > > > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 01/17/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.0 - Release Date: 01/17/2005
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#8. Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:00:03 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW Not so much the retaining springs as the retainers themselves. However, Jay Morris of GC says that the bench dyno'ed old valve springs and found some to be weak so it might be prudent to just replace the springs as well. When we removed Dave's valvetrain, the retainers (on a '98 M3) were a bit bent....you could definitely feel it if you held it in your hand. FWIW, Chester --- Tom Reynolds <kjtar@earthlink.net> wrote: > Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 16:53:47 -0700 > From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar@earthlink.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW > oil pan? > > I thought I read somewhere that the retaining springs were weak on the '95 > M3? Would that have anything to do with it, maybe just get "upgraded" > versions? > Tom Reynolds > Sand Springs, OK =====
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#9. 95 M3 in snow - from Alan Leung
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 18:00:39 -0600 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: 95 M3 in snow <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE> <P><BR>My experience with snow driving in my 95 M3 wasn't as good as others. I've had the car since new and have driven in Wisconsin and Minnesota. I have snow tires (Dunlop Graspic) and the car can be hopelessly stuck in fresh snow in a parking lot. Crossing the rib of snow between lanes on a highway is always an exciting proposition. I didn't win any WRC but I'm a decent driver and I was never confident driving the M3 in snow. If you do decide to keep the car and see how that works for you, make sure you get a good set of snow tires and put some sandbags in the trunk. Just my 02 cents.</P> <P>Alan<BR></P></DIV></div></html>
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#10. Sway bar link - from Steve Klein
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Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:24:56 -0600 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Sway bar link Hey, Group- I've replaced my front swaybar links and one is adjustable, and this is on stock sways with worn bushings. With the front of the car in the air, do I want to shorten the length (create tension between each link) or lengthen? Is there a rule of thumb? I'm assuming shorten since it will more quickly transfer forces from spring compression across the member, right? Thanks Steve