E36M3 #4097

Wednesday, January 26, 2005 17:46:45

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#1. 24 lb injectors - source and details - from Vern Anderson
#2. Track Brake Pads (was: Holy Price Increase!) - from Kirk Lachman
#3. Re: 24 lb injectors - source and details - from Vern Anderson
#4. Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from M540
#5. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Jamie Howton
#6. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Chester Wong
#7. RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Eric Carlson
#8. Snow tire opinions - from Chester Wong
#9. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Kent L. Shephard
#10. OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? - from Hans Batra

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#1. 24 lb injectors - source and details - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:32:21 -0800 (PST) From: Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: 24 lb injectors - source and details Hello all, I'm finishing my cam kit install this weekend, but the injectors are backordered. I will probably need to source these myself in order to finish the project. From my research into the archives, it seems that many folks just use 24lb Ford Motorsport injectors, is there a specific part number for those? Certain kinds that fit for M3's? eBay seems like a popular source to pick them up, any others? Thanks! Vern Anderson 98 M3/2

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#2. Track Brake Pads (was:  Holy Price Increase!) - from Kirk Lachman
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:05:25 -0800 (GMT-08:00) From: Kirk Lachman <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: Track Brake Pads (was: Holy Price Increase!) Ok, had to chime in on the brake pad issue. First off, I go through brake pads like a congressman goes through your tax dollars... My technique is marginal which results in high brake pad wear, or at least higher than my wallet would like. I've been told that my technique is something like this: drive tell you see a diety of your choosing, wave at said diety, check rearview mirror to see diety with mouth agape, then begin to lightly apply brakes... For my technique in my 3175lb (dry) I-stock club race car on Toyo RA-1s with full 3 inch brake ducting to backing plates, the best combo for a sprint race in summer is the Hawk HT-14 front, HT-10 rears. For cooler weather (or enduros where I show some mild restraint in my braking), I run the Hawk HT-10s all around. Latest data point was a two hour enduro at Phoenix International Raceway Thanksgiving weekend. The HT-10s showed minor wear on the front and even less on the rear (freshly bedded in pads from a practice session on used stock type rotors). I never experienced any brake fade or lack of feel, etc. The entry into PIR turn two is a decreasing radius turn that you trail brake into (or go off into the weeds...). I never had a problem modulating the braking through this turning/braking zone throughout the event. FWIW, I ran in the 1:11's at PIR so I wasn't poking along. Brakes were smoking hot during the pit stop (I love the smell of brake pads in the afternoon...). I have recently heard good things about the Cobalt line of brake pads (a club racing sponsor), but I don't have any first hand knowledge at this point. FWIW, I got my HT-10s from James at Bimmerworld (a list sponsor). Side note: make sure you wear hearing protection when racing with Porsche GT3R's. They are loud and they were running 1:03's or so... Had to cringe every time one lapped me... Cheers, Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock

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#3. Re: 24 lb injectors - source and details - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) From: Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: 24 lb injectors - source and details Just realized that Bimmerworld sells them (the Bosch ones, $219 for a set of 6) and had them in stock. They are on the way and I should be able to finish the install Sat morning. I'll give everyone a full report when everything is operational. Thanks! Vern Anderson --- Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hello all, > > I'm finishing my cam kit install this weekend, but > the > injectors are backordered. I will probably need to > source these myself in order to finish the project. > From my research into the archives, it seems that > many > folks just use 24lb Ford Motorsport injectors, is > there a specific part number for those? Certain > kinds > that fit for M3's? eBay seems like a popular source > to pick them up, any others? Thanks! > > Vern Anderson > 98 M3/2 >

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#4. Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from M540
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:27:04 -0500 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number All: Can anyone tell me what the proper BMW part number is for the front struts on a 1995 M3 (10/4 build date)? I've spoken to two different dealers and a couple of different part houses today and nobody can come up with a totally solid answer. It seems that two sets of struts come up in whichever databases they are using (Worldpac for one) but the fine print on both says that they are for 325's and other non-M E36 cars or cars "without the sport suspension option". The part numbers I've been given are 31 31 1 092 307/308 (left and right) and 31 31 2 226 987/988. The second set is significantly more expensive than the first but different sources seem divided over which is the proper part. Thank you for the help, Kevin

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:47:41 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number The numbers that you have been quoted match what is shown in ETK(BMWs P/N database). Here is a screenshot of the page so you can see for yourself: http://www.howton.net/strut.jpg. I am not sure what the F+S means, maybe someone else can help with that. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2002 330i 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:25:55 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number The bigger and more important question is why is he even considering stock shocks? They suck and have no warranty. Go with Konis and at least have the lifetime warranty! And they don't go dead in 20k miles. Chester --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> wrote: > The numbers that you have been quoted match what is shown in ETK(BMWs > P/N database). Here is a screenshot of the page so you can see for > yourself: http://www.howton.net/strut.jpg. I am not sure what the > F+S means, maybe someone else can help with that. =====

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Eric Carlson
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:30:57 -0500 From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number Kevin, When faced with a decision in choosing between two similar OEM part numbers, I've found one golden rule which has never failed me: The correct M3 parts are always the more expensive ones. I agree with Chester, though. Spend the $'s and go with the Koni's. A little more work, but worth it. Stay away from the Bilsteins as if you're looking for stock struts, they'll be too harsh a ride. - Eric > -----Original Message----- > From: M540 [mailto:m540@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:36 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number > > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:27:04 -0500 > From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> > Subject: Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number > > All: > > Can anyone tell me what the proper BMW part number is for the > front struts on a 1995 M3 (10/4 build date)? I've spoken to > two different dealers and a couple of different part houses > today and nobody can come up with a totally solid answer. It > seems that two sets of struts come up in whichever databases > they are using (Worldpac for one) but the fine print on both > says that they are for 325's and other non-M E36 cars or cars > "without the sport suspension option". The part numbers I've > been given are 31 31 1 092 > 307/308 (left and right) and 31 31 2 226 987/988. The second > set is significantly more expensive than the first but > different sources seem divided over which is the proper part. > > Thank you for the help, > > Kevin

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#8. Snow tire opinions - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:52 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Snow tire opinions Hey all. Last week, I went snowboarding at Hunter Mtn in upstate NY. Of course, that was when the snow was coming down pretty hard and while in 2nd gear going down the mountain at about 5 - 10mph, the ass would start coming around. I'd like to say that it was the awesome driver prowess that kept the car off the guardrails, but I'm sure a bit of luck was involved. Anyway, these 225/45R17 Michelin Pilot Alpins absolutely suck. I had the old Pirelli snow tires from the Winter of '99 - '00 and only took them off last year when the tread was a bit worn. With the Pirellis, I could never get the rear wheels to break loose in the dry. With the Michelins, 1st gear is guaranteed to spin the wheels a bit. I've never had much confidence with these tires for some reason and last weekend certainly reaffirmed that! So...in addition to calling up Michelin and bitching (I have now go get the tires inspected at a local Sears to do anything), I'm wondering what some options are: I'm considering: - Blizzak WS-50 - Pirelli Winter 210 Snowsport - Pilot Alpin PA-2 as a worse case scenario if Michelin decides to warranty them. Any other tires I should consider? I guess there are the LM-22s and the Nokian Hakawhatever. These tires will be mounted on the factory 17x7.5 wheels. TIA, Chester =====

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:34:26 -0800 From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number Hi, YMMV, but I like the Bilsteins with stock springs. I didn't go with Koni because the shops I talked to hated dealing with Koni for a failed shock and preferred dealing with Bilstein if they had to. Once again, YMMV. My '97 has both front and rear Bilsteins with urethane control arm bushings and reinforced RSM. My previous car was an E30 M3 that was extremely stiff and handled like it was on rails. Anyway, if you can, ride in a car with Bilsteins/Konis and see if the ride suits you. Kent Eric Carlson wrote: >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:30:57 -0500 >From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number > >Kevin, > When faced with a decision in choosing between two similar OEM >part numbers, I've found one golden rule which has never failed me: The >correct M3 parts are always the more expensive ones. > >I agree with Chester, though. Spend the $'s and go with the Koni's. A >little more work, but worth it. Stay away from the Bilsteins as if >you're looking for stock struts, they'll be too harsh a ride. > >- Eric > > > -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." 1918, Theodore Roosevelt

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#10. OT:  Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS?  Or an M5 List? - from Hans Batra
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:44:47 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? All, My brother-in-law is actively looking for an M5. Southeast area preferred. Any recommendations for websites to scan other than Autotrader or Roadfly? Thanks. Hans

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