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#1. RE: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:51:00 -0700 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions Chester, I agree the Pilot Alpins suck. I have heard better things about the Arctic Alpins if you have to stick with a Michelin product. I'm running Nokian WR's this year and I really like them. I have had to drive in a decent amount of snow/ice/slush and they are orders of magnitude better than the Michelins in dry/wet and snowy conditions. They don't have the absolute grip of a Blizzak on icy roads, but then they don't drive like marshmallows on dry roads! As a data point, I have never driven on the Hakawhatstherenames (but have heard rave reviews from those who have) or any Pirelli snow tire. Graeme In sunny 60 degree Colorado today, waiting for the snow tomorrow!!!! -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:36 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:52 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Snow tire opinions Hey all. Last week, I went snowboarding at Hunter Mtn in upstate NY. Of course, that was when the snow was coming down pretty hard and while in 2nd gear going down the mountain at about 5 - 10mph, the ass would start coming around. I'd like to say that it was the awesome driver prowess that kept the car off the guardrails, but I'm sure a bit of luck was involved. Anyway, these 225/45R17 Michelin Pilot Alpins absolutely suck. I had the old Pirelli snow tires from the Winter of '99 - '00 and only took them off last year when the tread was a bit worn. With the Pirellis, I could never get the rear wheels to break loose in the dry. With the Michelins, 1st gear is guaranteed to spin the wheels a bit. I've never had much confidence with these tires for some reason and last weekend certainly reaffirmed that! So...in addition to calling up Michelin and bitching (I have now go get the tires inspected at a local Sears to do anything), I'm wondering what some options are: I'm considering: - Blizzak WS-50 - Pirelli Winter 210 Snowsport - Pilot Alpin PA-2 as a worse case scenario if Michelin decides to warranty them. Any other tires I should consider? I guess there are the LM-22s and the Nokian Hakawhatever. These tires will be mounted on the factory 17x7.5 wheels. TIA, Chester ===== ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:14:50 -0500 From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number And I'll agree with Kevin. I have early production Bilstein struts/shocks that are obscenely harsh. They work well but you pay a price in comfort and noise. I'm sure most of the squeaks and rattles in my M3 are due to the pounding from the Bilsteins. I'd agree with Chester too but I don't think OEM M3 struts are good for even 20K. They are complete junk. I'm sure for the price of one stock strut you could buy 2.5 Koni or Bilstein. Just say NO! to stock struts. Lowell Seaton '95 M3 --------------------- Kevin writes: When faced with a decision in choosing between two similar OEM part numbers, I've found one golden rule which has never failed me: The correct M3 parts are always the more expensive ones. I agree with Chester, though. Spend the $'s and go with the Koni's. A little more work, but worth it. Stay away from the Bilsteins as if you're looking for stock struts, they'll be too harsh a ride.
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#3. RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from M540
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:18:41 -0500 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number Thanks to all who have responded so far! I'll get the definitive answer to "what's on there now" when I get the car back in my hands on Friday but until then it seems like there is no consensus. If anyone knows the definition of "F+S" on the parts breakdown I'd really love to know. I may well go with the Bilsteins, we'll see. I just wanted to figure out how much the OE option was going to really cost. This car did win an awful lot of praise running these shocks when it came out. Eric, you're dead on. I was tempted to fall back on the "more expensive" rule myself if all else failed. Thank you again, Kevin
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:28:03 -0800 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number You do have a third option. If want an extremely "interesting" ride you can set your car up like the previous owner of my car did: new stock shocks in the front and new Bilstein sports in the rear. Of course he had absolutely no reason for this as his "alignment" guy just told him he need new shock and replaced them with what he wished. Needless to say, the front of the car is overly under-damped compared to the front, although it is a decent set-up for autocrossing... Drive Safely, Raza On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:46:12 -0600, Kent L. Shephard <kents@kls-consulting.com> wrote: > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:34:26 -0800 > From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number > > Hi, > > YMMV, but I like the Bilsteins with stock springs. > I didn't go with Koni because the shops I talked to hated dealing with > Koni for a failed shock and preferred dealing with Bilstein if they had > to. Once again, YMMV. > > My '97 has both front and rear Bilsteins with urethane control arm > bushings and reinforced RSM. > My previous car was an E30 M3 that was extremely stiff and handled like > it was on rails. > Anyway, if you can, ride in a car with Bilsteins/Konis and see if the > ride suits you. > > Kent > > Eric Carlson wrote: > > >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:30:57 -0500 > >From: "Eric Carlson" <eric@bluehammock.com> > >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number > > > >Kevin, > > When faced with a decision in choosing between two similar OEM > >part numbers, I've found one golden rule which has never failed me: The > >correct M3 parts are always the more expensive ones. > > > >I agree with Chester, though. Spend the $'s and go with the Koni's. A > >little more work, but worth it. Stay away from the Bilsteins as if > >you're looking for stock struts, they'll be too harsh a ride. > > > >- Eric > > > > > > > > -- > "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that > we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only > unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American > public." 1918, Theodore Roosevelt > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#5. For Sale: 3-piece LTW Replica Wing - from Mark Kelly
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:30:13 -0500 From: "Mark Kelly" <mark@garden.net> Subject: For Sale: 3-piece LTW Replica Wing Gang, Will someone please buy my 3-piece fiberglass LTW replica wing before my wife bolts it to the hood of my Nissan Titan. I'm serious, she'll do it! I bought this from Racepad.com about 3 years ago and have attempted to sell it from time to time. It is painted bright red and has never been installed. This is the 3-piece version that has the inserts for height adjustment. I can email you pics if interested. It does not include any mounting hardware, but I'll help you get any hardware you need for the install. I'm in New Jersey and local pickup would be preferred as they are a PIA to ship without damage. I will drive a reasonable distance to facilitate delivery. I'm hoping to get $250 for it, but make me an offer. -Mark Kelly
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions - from Walter J
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:46:36 -0500 From: Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions Chester Wong wrote: >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:52 -0800 (PST) >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >Subject: Snow tire opinions > >Hey all. Last week, I went snowboarding at Hunter Mtn in upstate NY. Of >course, that was when the snow was coming down pretty hard and while in 2nd >gear going down the mountain at about 5 - 10mph, the ass would start coming >around. > I used the Blizzak WS-50s for years... they rock in the snow. They are a solid, no compromise, snow and ice tire. They will not bring you happiness in any other weather... or use 3rd gear ;)
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#7. Re: [E36M3] OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? - from Doug Wirth
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:27:31 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=307076 Im not a 5er guy so not sure if this is an e39. Here you go Hans Batra <hansbatra@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 18:44:47 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" Subject: OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? All, My brother-in-law is actively looking for an M5. Southeast area preferred. Any recommendations for websites to scan other than Autotrader or Roadfly? Thanks. Hans ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* Doug
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 17:40:08 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number Hmmm...having gone through a warranty issue with Koni, I can't imagine what the problem the shops had with them. You call them up, they ask for a fax of a receipt and your registration and they sent me replacements while the bad units were still on the car! Swapped them out, boxed up the bad ones, shipped them back...that's it. Chester --- "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> wrote: > YMMV, but I like the Bilsteins with stock springs. > I didn't go with Koni because the shops I talked to hated dealing with > Koni for a failed shock and preferred dealing with Bilstein if they had > to. Once again, YMMV. =====
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#9. Re: [E36M3] OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:41:50 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Anyone know of an E39 M5 FS? Or an M5 List? http://www.m5board.com -- Jamie Howton 2002 330i 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:44:13 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:25:55 -0800 (PST), Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > The bigger and more important question is why is he even considering stock > shocks? They suck and have no warranty. Go with Konis and at least have the > lifetime warranty! And they don't go dead in 20k miles. Agreed, might as well go with some better springs too. -- Jamie Howton 2002 330i 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL