E36M3 #4100

Thursday, January 27, 2005 12:57:13

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions - from Carey Probst
#2. Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions - from Andrej Dolenc
#3. RE:Snow tire opinions - from Michael, Dave
#4. Re: [E36M3] Suspension Setup - from dhogg
#5. Snow tire opinions - from dhogg
#6. Re: [E36M3] RE: lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
#7. E36M3 production - from Msebmwman@aol.com
#8. RE: [E36M3] E36M3 production - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
#9. Snow tire opinions - from Robert Manger
#10. Control arm quandry - from Walter J

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions - from Carey Probst
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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 23:42:10 -0500 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions Chester, I'd recommend the LM-22 over the WS-50 any day. I'd also recommend a smaller wheel, higher profile tire than the 17s. I have the LM-22s on the M3 on 16" wheels and it plows through anything Upstate NY has thrown at me in the last 4 years and they feel good and solid on dry pavement. I have the WS-50s on the 325e on stock wheels. They pull good in the show and have worked almost as well as the LM-22s but don't feel as stable at speed. Can't speek for the others. Carey Chester Wong wrote: >Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:52 -0800 (PST) >From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> >Subject: Snow tire opinions > > > >I'm considering: >- Blizzak WS-50 >- Pirelli Winter 210 Snowsport >- Pilot Alpin PA-2 as a worse case scenario if Michelin decides to warranty >them. > >Any other tires I should consider? I guess there are the LM-22s and the Nokian >Hakawhatever. > >These tires will be mounted on the factory 17x7.5 wheels. > >TIA, >Chester > >===== > > > > > > >

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#2. Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:01:51 -0500 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Snow tire opinions Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Any other tires I should consider? I guess there are the LM-22s and the Nokian > Hakawhatever. > These tires will be mounted on the factory 17x7.5 wheels. Snowboarding? Ewww. OK, only if you do it like this dude does: http://www.whistler-insider.com/snowbeer.bmp Anyway, back to the subject at hand. Local tire shop (shameless plug - Radial Tire) turned me on to Vredestein snow tires. Stiff enough to handle with some semblance of performance when the roads are dry, yet still retain good snow capabilities to get around. We've only had 1 significant snowfall here in DC, these tires got me around great. So far, so good. Andrej '97 M3

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#3. RE:Snow tire opinions - from Michael, Dave
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 04:06:09 -0500 From: "Michael, Dave" <Dave_Michael@maxtor.com> Subject: RE:Snow tire opinions I run Nokian HakkaQ (205/55-16) on all 4 corners and am amazed at how well they do. In a snowy ski area parking lot (Hunter Mt, ironically), I was able to plow snow with my bumper in order to reach the condo. The Q has been replaced I think by the Rsi. Its also a bit squishy on dry pavement (though no nearly as bas as the 1st generation Blizzaks). One more data point. Dave

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Suspension Setup - from dhogg
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:49:44 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Suspension Setup Dave, I'm running the SA Koni's on my street car with the stock springs and X-brace, and it's not a bad compromise for 100% street. Definitely do the X-brace. If you were going to step up the springs for 100% street and you're concerned about ride, I'd go for the H&R Sport (not OE Sport) springs. 0.75" lower and definitely stiffer but not bone-jarring at all. Adding Eibach bars will increase the harshness over bumps but give greater cornering control. It's a tradeoff. I ran this setup for a while in I-Stock with some minor success, but I was the softest-sprung car out there. Dave Hogg

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#5. Snow tire opinions - from dhogg
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 06:57:07 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Snow tire opinions Chester, The Dunlop SP Winter Sport M2 in 225/45-17 is almost as good as your old Pirelli's. This is my first season with them instead of my Winter 210's and they do a nice job dry or white. Dave Hogg

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#6. Re: [E36M3] RE: lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? - from ChuckBrazeau@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 07:37:23 EST From: ChuckBrazeau@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: lifter ticking with dual-pickup oil pump and LTW oil pan? I don't have an oil pressure gauge, so i'm not sure if the oil pressure was stablized during braking and cornering after the baffle install (i imagine it was because others with the baffles and gauges state an improvement), however the baffle installation did not help my lifter ticking at all for auto-x. I just live with it. Chuck Brazeau 1995 BMW M3 - Violet on Black SCCA Solo2 - B-Street Prepared #95 _http://www.brazeauracing.com/_ (http://www.brazeauracing.com/) In a message dated 1/26/2005 12:42:32 PM Central Standard Time, AVUSM3@aol.com writes: Does your car tick at all after installing the TMS baffles? (http://www.brazeauracing.com/)

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#7. E36M3 production - from Msebmwman@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:20:27 EST From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: E36M3 production I found this information one the web. http://www.bmwmregistry.com/ E36M3 production information. ECE is Europe NA is North America USA is US SA I believe is South Africa Regards, Marc 3.0 How many of each version were built? ECE coupe (LHD): 11,284 built from 03/92 thru 07/95 ECE coupe (RHD): 3,152 built from 03/93 thru 07/95 ECE GT coupe (LHD and RHD): 356 built from 05/95 thru 08/95 SA coupe (RHD): 748 built in SKD form from 11/92 thru 01/94 USA coupe manual (LHD): 8,515 built from 02/94 thru 01/96 USA coupe automatic (LHD): 1,705 built from 12/94 thru 01/96 ECE convertible (LHD): 1,403 built from 03/94 thru 08/95 ECE convertible (RHD): 572 built from 09/94 thru 08/95 ECE sedan (LHD): 868 built from 06/94 thru 07/95 ECE sedan (RHD): 415 built from 10/94 thru 07/95 How many of each version were built? ECE coupe (LHD): 6,117 built from 09/95 thru 12/98 ECE coupe (RHD): 2,845 built from 11/95 thru 12/98 NA coupe (LHD): 11,793 built from 04/96 thru 04/99 ECE convertible (LHD): 1,763 built from 11/95 thru 09/99 ECE convertible (RHD): 2,107 built from 12/95 thru 09/99 NA convertible manual (LHD): 2,252 built from 03/98 thru 08/99 NA convertible automatic (LHD): 4,017 built from 03/98 thru 08/99 ECE sedan (LHD): 1,296 built from 11/95 thru 01/98 ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98 NA sedan manual (LHD): 4,574 built from 09/96 thru 05/98 NA sedan automatic (LHD): 4,036 built from 09/96 thru 05/98 SA sedan (RHD): 168 as Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits from 11/96 thru 04/97, 532 as complete cars from 04/97 thru 10/98

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#8. RE: [E36M3] E36M3 production - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:09:27 -0700 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] E36M3 production Ow! That made my head hurt. This is a little more clear. Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Msebmwman@aol.com [mailto:Msebmwman@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 7:26 AM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] E36M3 production Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 09:20:27 EST From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: E36M3 production I found this information one the web. http://www.bmwmregistry.com/ E36M3 production information. ECE is Europe NA is North America USA is US SA I believe is South Africa Regards, Marc 3.0 How many of each version were built? ECE coupe (LHD): 11,284 built from 03/92 thru 07/95 ECE coupe (RHD): 3,152 built from 03/93 thru 07/95 ECE GT coupe (LHD and RHD): 356 built from 05/95 thru 08/95 SA coupe (RHD): 748 built in SKD form from 11/92 thru 01/94 USA coupe manual (LHD): 8,515 built from 02/94 thru 01/96 USA coupe automatic (LHD): 1,705 built from 12/94 thru 01/96 ECE convertible (LHD): 1,403 built from 03/94 thru 08/95 ECE convertible (RHD): 572 built from 09/94 thru 08/95 ECE sedan (LHD): 868 built from 06/94 thru 07/95 ECE sedan (RHD): 415 built from 10/94 thru 07/95 3.2 How many of each version were built? ECE coupe (LHD): 6,117 built from 09/95 thru 12/98 ECE coupe (RHD): 2,845 built from 11/95 thru 12/98 NA coupe (LHD): 11,793 built from 04/96 thru 04/99 ECE convertible (LHD): 1,763 built from 11/95 thru 09/99 ECE convertible (RHD): 2,107 built from 12/95 thru 09/99 NA convertible manual (LHD): 2,252 built from 03/98 thru 08/99 NA convertible automatic (LHD): 4,017 built from 03/98 thru 08/99 ECE sedan (LHD): 1,296 built from 11/95 thru 01/98 ECE sedan (RHD): 694 built from 12/95 thru 01/98 NA sedan manual (LHD): 4,574 built from 09/96 thru 05/98 NA sedan automatic (LHD): 4,036 built from 09/96 thru 05/98 SA sedan (RHD): 168 as Complete Knock Down (CKD) kits from 11/96 thru 04/97, 532 as complete cars from 04/97 thru 10/98 ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Snow tire opinions - from Robert Manger
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 10:10:55 -0500 From: Robert Manger <Robert_Manger@Mastercard.com> Subject: Snow tire opinions Hi Chester, I highly recommend the Nokian Hakkapalitas RSI or WR, The RSI is their dedicated snow tire with a new design for this year. The WR is what they deem to be an all season but is very much an H rated snow tire for the areas that don't get constant snow. I have the RSI's on my wife's car and they have been great. They are a little pricey though, mail order is $148 each, since I know you can mount your own tires. Other wise sold usually only at small tire shops for the generous price of $160+(this was for a 205/55/16 size). rob Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 15:32:52 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Snow tire opinions Hey all. Last week, I went snowboarding at Hunter Mtn in upstate NY. Of course, that was when the snow was coming down pretty hard and while in 2nd gear going down the mountain at about 5 - 10mph, the ass would start coming around. I'd like to say that it was the awesome driver prowess that kept the car off the guardrails, but I'm sure a bit of luck was involved. Anyway, these 225/45R17 Michelin Pilot Alpins absolutely suck. I had the old Pirelli snow tires from the Winter of '99 - '00 and only took them off last year when the tread was a bit worn. With the Pirellis, I could never get the rear wheels to break loose in the dry. With the Michelins, 1st gear is guaranteed to spin the wheels a bit. I've never had much confidence with these tires for some reason and last weekend certainly reaffirmed that! So...in addition to calling up Michelin and bitching (I have now go get the tires inspected at a local Sears to do anything), I'm wondering what some options are: I'm considering: - Blizzak WS-50 - Pirelli Winter 210 Snowsport - Pilot Alpin PA-2 as a worse case scenario if Michelin decides to warranty them. Any other tires I should consider? I guess there are the LM-22s and the Nokian Hakawhatever. These tires will be mounted on the factory 17x7.5 wheels. TIA, Chester ----------------------------------------- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE This e-mail message and any attachments are only for the use of the intended recipient and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, distribution or other use of this e-mail message or attachments is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail message in error, please delete and notify the sender immediately. Thank you.

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#10. Control arm quandry - from Walter J
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2005 13:48:00 -0500 From: Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> Subject: Control arm quandry I decided to check my oil pump nut and replace every wear item on the way there... my M3 has about 30 track days and 80k miles on the original control arms so they are directly in my sites...(and I keep whacking my forehead on them) I did a quick search and discovered that the sexy aluminum E30 M3 arms fit but there is some chatter about whether that is a brilliant stroke to eliminate unsprung weight or a quick way to get weaker balljoints. Anybody got the straight dope? My car is now 80% track duty and 20% fun buggy. The low-hanging fruit (springs/sways/shocks) have all been upgraded as stuff wore out broke or was just in the way while fixing something else. Should I go with a different than OE bushing while I'm at it? Anybody using those Treehouse offset units (I have the FE camber shimmed to -2.8 and castor suffered a bit)? -- Walter

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