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#1. Re: [E36M3] Kumho 710's - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:28:40 -0500 From: Jeremy Lucas <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Kumho 710's see below, can't comment on any of the autocross stuff Steven Hazard wrote: >In your post you don't tell us what car(s) you were driving on the 710's and >how well set up the chassis was either. R compound life is very dependent on >proper camber set up and hot TP's. I'm currently running on a set of R3S03's >on my car at DE's and they will indeed "last" a long time BUT after 3 days >of DE's are no longer 100%. > > I don't know any tire that will allow you to do both (SOLO & racing) with peak efficiency over an extended period. Lots of factors including length of time at temperature, heat cycles, etc.. Fresh tires heat cycled tires are always the best. For Nationals, fresh tires are almost a requirement especially in the Showroom Stock C (SSC) Civic SI that I've been running for the past couple of years. If your not familiar with SSC, it's 100% FWD cars and it is extremely abusive on the front tires due to lack of camber combined with lots of body roll due to the stock springs & dampers that we are required to keep. Showroom Stock is probably one of the areas were the tire wars between the brands are the most heated. >I wonder how well the new Kumho sticks after 6 hours compared to a Toyo RA1 >after six hours? >See my point? Also how competitive are they after 60 Solo 2 runs vs the new >Hoosiers. We will know the answers to those questions as the 05 season gets >rolling. >It sure is good to hear that you went 6 hours on a set and I should have >explained myself better in my post. >After 80-85 runs on Hoosiers they still have plenty of tread left, just no >more heat cycles. They no longer are competitve AT ALL. >Did you have a lap timer in your car for the 6 hour test day? > > For the test day at MidOhio in the SSC car, I was typically running 35-40 minutes sessions with 20 minutes in between. While I had a lap timer, I don't think my lap time data, in this case, would help because I actually kept getting faster all day because it was the first time on the 710s and due to increased level of grip over the Victoracers it required some mental adjustment. In a given session there was no noticeable variation in tire performance (no "going off" 2/3 of the way through) and lap times on clean laps where within tenths. BTW, 710s require very little warm up and I guess that's why they work well at SOLO. Last year, people were getting their fastest qualifying lap, first lap out. I'm hoping they get those 225 & 245 17s out soon as I'll be running a T2 S2000 this year instead of the SSC car. For enduros in the past (VIR 13 hour, 25 Hours of Thunderhill '03 & '04) I've used Toyos because of the long life and consistency of grip. After seeing how much wear the V710s can take, I'm tempted to try them next time. Jeremy Lucas 95 M3
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#2. Did your rear shocks come with Belleville washers? - from Mark Greer
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:01:44 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> Subject: Did your rear shocks come with Belleville washers? I received a new set of Bilstien Shocks and, although they are painted a nice shade of yellow, do not appear to include the curved spring washers I'm familiar with. Should they have been included? It appears the rubber bushing could work off the lower mounting bolt without some sort of washer. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#3. Re: Master cylinder problem - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:59:19 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Master cylinder problem Ouch! Ron posted: >Looked at www.realoem.com (ETK on line with prices..) looks >like list price is $413 or so... so it's "special".. > >>>Pricing on realoem is not suggested retail. >Suggested retail on master cylinder 34 31 2 227 466 is $537.50. And no rebuild kit I could find... (funny since there are rebuild kits available for things like the calipers..) Wonder if this cylinder uses "standard" seals..? $537.50 x 0.8 = $430.. which appears to be ~ what is being quoted for it. OUCH. Means the power-bleeder is even more important. OUCH OUCH OUCH (making plans to do a brake-fluid flush REAL SOON NOW..) _______D_o_n__________S_p_r_i_n_g__L_a_k_e__H_t_s____________ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ NJ SHore BMW Riders - http://www.njsbmwr.org/ E39 Enthusiasts Group - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39/ '03 525iT, '98 M3C/5, '87 K75S
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Kumho 710's - from dhogg
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:06:19 -0500 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Kumho 710's Steve and Jeremy, OK, I'll check in. The new Hoosiers stick like glue when new. At the Glen last year I qualified on sticker RS304's and broke two lug studs - they generate that much force! Broke another one the next day. (Yes, I've also found stronger studs.) Problem is they get pretty slippy long before the tread is low. 2 race weekends is about all they can do until they're noncompetitive/practice tires. They're certainly entertaining and fun to slide around when old, but that's not the point here. If the Kumho 710's stick as well and hold in there longer, I'll be a customer. I've long used the Victoracers for practice/DE days because they hold in there for a long time, and you can even drive them to the track. Dave Hogg #20 IS
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Re: GOOD DEAL on tires - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:03:37 -0800 From: Murray Roblin <mdrlist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: GOOD DEAL on tires By going through the brand/model/size search, I found if for the $127. http://discounttiredirect.com/direct/findTireProductCategoryDetailBrnd.do?tpc=MMIHZC&tp=Passenger%2FPerformance When I went through the car model search, it was more expensive. Murray
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#6. Kumho 710 sizes - from NSimon1111@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:04:12 EST From: NSimon1111@aol.com Subject: Kumho 710 sizes Steve - I, too, am waiting on 245/35-18 and 285-30-18 710s. Although Kumho announced in a press release back in November that these sizes would be available in May, I've been unable to find anyone at Kumho USA (or at Tire Rack) who feels confident with that schedule. Be very interested in finding out from Mike Shields (either on or offline) about the source of his information. TIA. Neil Simon 99 M Coupe DC tags MDORPHN
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#7. Re: [E36M3] OT: searching ebay - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:22:00 -0800 From: Murray Roblin <mdrlist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: searching ebay If you add "-automatic" to your search query, the engine will not include posts with the term automatic.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:52:44 -0600 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice I use an F250 4x4 Supercab with the 5.4L V8 to tow my 95 M3. I get about 10MPG when towing and it never seems like it's working that hard. It's comfortable and with a tool box in the bed I have plenty of storage space, I put my extra wheels in the bed. I definately wouldn't want to drive that thing to work though. -- Jamie Howton 2002 330i 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Did your rear shocks come with Belleville washers? - from twisty M3
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:53:56 -0800 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Did your rear shocks come with Belleville washers? Same thing with my rear Bilsteins, and they WILL work themselves off the mounting bolt without the washers... trust me! ;) I ended up picking up a couple of big washers down at a hardware store, but can't remember the size. It is fun trying to get the shock back on that bolt on the side of the freeway, though. ha! Jonathan L. >From: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> >Reply-To: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> >To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >Subject: [E36M3] Did your rear shocks come with Belleville washers? >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:06:03 -0600 > >Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 15:01:44 -0500 (EST) >From: "Mark Greer" <mark.greer@excite.com> >Subject: Did your rear shocks come with Belleville washers? > > >I received a new set of Bilstien Shocks and, although they are painted a nice shade of yellow, do not appear to include the curved spring washers I'm familiar with. Should they have been included? >It appears the rubber bushing could work off the lower mounting bolt without some sort of washer. > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com >The most personalized portal on the Web! > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > >
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#10. Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice - from Cheng, Margaret
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:14:40 -0800 From: "Cheng, Margaret" <Margaret.Cheng@kp.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice >>>I had solicited tons of advice on what to buy to pull my M3 to the track >>>with... but... er... somehow I forgot that a bunch of you guys would >>>know better than the general public. >>>-- >>>Walter I tow my spec Miata with a 2500 Avalanche, which I love. My open trailer weighs ~2000 lbs, with a 2500 car on top... Plus, I usually have all the stuff that I would need to do a full brake job (pads and rotors x 4 corners), jack, air tank, 4 extra wheel/tires, 20 gallons of gas, trailer spare tire and various and sundry other things (full cooler, etc, etc.). I get 13 mph on the road, 10 mph while towing the open trailer. It's actually pretty fun to drive, but parking can be a hassle. That said, I don't commute in it; my 86 VW GTI gets the nod for fun to drive component (on the street) and 30 mph... Typically, the stated towing capacity of the truck is high enough for the stuff that you would be towing, but the rate limiting factor can often be the gross combination vehicle weight rating (GCVWR), which is the actual weight of the entire rig, including the truck, it's contents (people, too), and the trailer. This is where you can often be bumping up against the limit. Having a 4.10 vs 3.73 diff can affect your rating, as well as 4WD vs 2WD, etc. While considering the purchase, you may also know that everyone who begins to tow their car to the track will then want to upgrade to an enclosed trailer, which your 2002 Tundra (7/8's size) is unlikely to handle well. Just as on the road in a car, it's nice to have some reserve to accelerate away from something, if needed. As an aside, a 3/4 ton truck usually has upgraded brakes, tranny cooler, and other stuff that's nice to have if towing. Good luck on your decision. I have never regretted having too much power, and I recommend a Sloan's Qwik Load trailer. It's fabulous. Margaret 97 M3/4, 72,000 miles 86 VW GTI 248,000 miles