E36M3 #4108

Monday, January 31, 2005 13:26:23

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#1. Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice - from Jason Knight
#2. Re: Kumho 710 sizes - from Steven Hazard
#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Kumho 710 sizes - from Jeremy Lucas
#4. Dynoed car. - from GGray657@aol.com
#5. RE: [E36M3] Kumho 710's - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
#6. Rear shock mount removal... - from Dat Quach (quachd)
#7. RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from M540
#8. Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... - from Rex Tener
#9. Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... - from Jay W. Hudson
#10. Rad or oil catch can needed for 98 M3 in CR? - from Vern Anderson

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#1. Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice - from Jason Knight
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 16:27:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] OT: Tow Vehicle Advice We had a Chevy 1500 with the 5.4L V8 when we towed my wife's Camaro race car on an open trailer. When we got an enclosed trailer we upgraded to a 2500HD with the diesel and Alison transmission. This truck has juice pulling up the grapevine fully loaded. But enough about me. I'm a paranoid tower (dreamt about riding in the rig with the missus driving us down the freeway at 85). I've seen folks pulling their race cars with an X5 or Cayenne or whatever and think it's ludicrous. Get a full sized truck at the very least. The wife loves her '74 2002, but drives the 2500 to work most days. A big truck isn't as fun as a nice little coupe, but don't underestimate how nice it can be to be in cruise mode on the freeway. When I drive the truck I have no problem with the slow or middle lane. In the M3 I seem to lack the same level of patience. Jason --- Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> wrote: > My own personal plan: > I got a really good deal in the works on a 2002 > Toyota Tundra V8/Crew > cab with a tow rating of 7800lbs. Good enough that I > can make my number > and have enough left over to change the oil. That is > more than enough > capacity for an M3 on an open trailer with a tire > bar, tools & fuel by > my math. Oh, and it gets 18MPG on the highway... > where most of the > others could only wish for 14 - turns around in less > than a football > field and only weighs 4k. So, am I nuts or is most > of the advice I've > got thus far just overkill? I would HATE to drive a > bus to work every > day just to tow well a couple days a year. My math > says I need 6000lbs > capacity. Am I missing something that experienced > towers learn the hard > way or am I fine? after all, I have seen people > pulling cars with a > Volvo XC90, a Toureg, and once... a Bonneville. > > -- > Walter > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#2. Re: Kumho 710 sizes - from Steven Hazard
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Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 23:41:39 -0500 From: "Steven Hazard" <98m3@comcast.net> Subject: Re: Kumho 710 sizes Mike Shield's replied> It was Aaron Smith. ----- Original Message ----- From: NSimon1111@aol.com To: e36m3@bmw-m.net Cc: 98m3@comcast.net Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2005 4:04 PM Subject: Kumho 710 sizes Steve - I, too, am waiting on 245/35-18 and 285-30-18 710s. Although Kumho announced in a press release back in November that these sizes would be available in May, I've been unable to find anyone at Kumho USA (or at Tire Rack) who feels confident with that schedule. Be very interested in finding out from Mike Shields (either on or offline) about the source of his information. TIA. Neil Simon 99 M Coupe DC tags MDORPHN

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#3. Re: [E36M3] Re: Kumho 710 sizes - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 06:03:32 -0500 From: Jeremy Lucas <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Kumho 710 sizes Aaron is Rudy's right hand man. Steven Hazard wrote: >Mike Shield's replied> >It was Aaron Smith. > > >

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#4. Dynoed car. - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:46:03 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Dynoed car. I dynoed the M3 on a dynojet hit 236hp/225trq. I also decided to dyno the car with the HFM in the 7 o'clock position and the 10 o'clock position result was a loss of 7-9hp, 14-15trq. I did not think it would make that big a difference but it does. Also found out that with an SAFC you can break 240 at the wheels on a 3.2. The guy who owns the dyno is named Blake Walker. Walker Dyno Tune in Birmigham super nice and knows some crap...Anyway, his wife has a covertible M3 and he has probably 20+ pulls on it from stock to its current state. It was very interesting with a AA trackpipe and AA muffler it lost power through the entire range, 3-5hp loss. I saw the dyno chart. He also fine tuned the car with a APexi SAFC and was able to get 246hp at the wheels and in the mid 230's for torque. My next purchase and back to the dyno to tune it again... Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team

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#5. RE: [E36M3] Kumho 710's - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 09:28:11 -0700 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Kumho 710's Hmmmm, interesting. I have talked to a few Kumho sponsored SCCA Club Racers about these tires. One, on his T1 'Vette, pretty much wore a set out in a 40minute race. Like down to the cords worn out. He also told me he was *much* faster than the Hoosier drivers on their R3S04's the second half of the race. The other (also a T1 'Vette driver) recommended to stick with the Victoracer V700 for DE's as in his opinion, the V710's would not last as long. Autocross wise, there is no question this is THE tire to have. At SCCA Nationals this year, during the warmup event, a friend of mine went from new (but scrubbed) A3S04's to V710's and picked up 1 full second! Maybe it's time to try these as at a DE once appropriate sizes become available. Graeme -----Original Message----- From: Jeremy Lucas [mailto:jlucas@columbus.rr.com] Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:36 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Kumho 710's Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 11:22:37 -0500 From: Jeremy Lucas <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Kumho 710's While you are correct that these are very good autocross tire, you might want to be a little more careful about posting mis-information on track use, especially on something you self-admittedly have no experience with them. They, in fact, last much longer at the track than victoracers. This is from my personal experience at SCCA Nationals & the Runoffs. The tires I used all week at the Runoffs have since been used for 2 NASA race weekends and a SCCA licensing school weekend and are now slightly beyond the point where they should have been flipped. I would have flipped them before the school but the guy using them that weekend ran out of time before hand. I also ran a set at a tire test day, earlier in the year, for about 6 hours at race pace (no rotation and no flipping) and only wore the front outside shoulder about 60% (FWD car). Victoracers would have been done after 3 hours at the same pace (ran those last year). It was pretty amazing that these tires stuck better and last longer than other Kumhos but I've been there/done that and it's a fact. They do like lower pressures at the track than typical (less than 40 hot). If your not running at a National race pace, you will get even more life from them (track days,etc..). Can't wait for the new sizes. :) Jeremy Lucas 95 M3 Steven Hazard wrote: >Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 08:56:15 -0500 >From: "Steven Hazard" <98m3@comcast.net> >Subject: Kumho 710's > >Thought some of you might like to see this. MIke is a serious local >Solo 2 guy. He runs in both our series and SCCA's. > >If this size is produced it will be my Solo II tire in the future. >These tires will not last as long at the track as the 700's or old Victoracers. >They are faster than the A compound Hoosiers. I suspect that the Club >Racing crowd will jump on these as well. > >I personally will not try this tire at DE's after the problems many had >with the 700's and even the recall last Summer of this tire due to delamination. >The other reason is they won't last long either! > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#6. Rear shock mount removal... - from Dat Quach (quachd)
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:05:28 +0100 From: "Dat Quach (quachd)" <quachd@cisco.com> Subject: Rear shock mount removal... I'm changing the rear shock mounts out on my '97 M3. I did this same operation previously on my '95 M3, but I don't recall having this much problem with it. I'm having trouble attempting to remove the 16mm nut from the top of the shock to get to the shock mount. I can't seem to get a firm grasp on the shock itself, even with the open end of a 6mm wrench (to keep the shock from turning). How has everyone removed this successfully? Is it merely using a vice grip on the end to keep the shock from turning? Thanks, Dat '97 M3

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number - from M540
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 13:33:52 -0500 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number I've done some more research on these M3 front struts and for the sake of the archives or anybody else who was interested I thought I'd pass it along. There were two parts listed in the ETK for each side and the prices between the two varied significantly. I've now been told that the "F+S" notation on one set (PN ending in 307 and 308) is the name of the manufacturer of these struts (though I cannot find any such company on the web). The other set (PN ending with 988/987) are the BOGE struts that our cars came with, though the replacements supposedly may be made by BMW now, not BOGE. If anybody can call BS on any of this, please do, it's just what I've been told by a knowledgeable-sounding dealer after talking to a lot of distinctly not knowledgeable folks. I checked the original struts on my car and although they have a big BOGE emblem on them, there isn't a part number anywhere to be found. :( Kevin Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:18:41 -0500 From: "M540" <m540@bellsouth.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Need '95 M3 Front Strut part Number Thanks to all who have responded so far! I'll get the definitive answer to "what's on there now" when I get the car back in my hands on Friday but until then it seems like there is no consensus. If anyone knows the definition of "F+S" on the parts breakdown I'd really love to know. I may well go with the Bilsteins, we'll see. I just wanted to figure out how much the OE option was going to really cost. This car did win an awful lot of praise running these shocks when it came out. Eric, you're dead on. I was tempted to fall back on the "more expensive" rule myself if all else failed. Thank you again, Kevin

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... - from Rex Tener
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 10:52:24 -0800 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... At 12:15 PM rom: "Dat Quach (quachd)" <quachd@cisco.com> >I'm changing the rear shock mounts out on my '97 M3. I did this same >operation previously on my '95 M3, but I don't recall having this much >problem with it. I'm having trouble attempting to remove the 16mm nut >from the top of the shock to get to the shock mount. I can't seem to >get a firm grasp on the shock itself, even with the open end of a 6mm >wrench (to keep the shock from turning). Hey Dat, You should be able to hold the shock shaft with the 6mm and use a 16mm box end wrench to loosen the nut. Is there any corrosion on the shock shaft at the nut? The torque on the nut should be fairly low, maybe 20 Nm. -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:17:55 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... I put the end of the shock strut in a vise and then used a box wrench to loosen the top nut. Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dat Quach (quachd)" <quachd@cisco.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 10:15 AM Subject: [E36M3] Rear shock mount removal... > Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:05:28 +0100 > From: "Dat Quach (quachd)" <quachd@cisco.com> > Subject: Rear shock mount removal... > > I'm changing the rear shock mounts out on my '97 M3. I did this same > operation previously on my '95 M3, but I don't recall having this much > problem with it. I'm having trouble attempting to remove the 16mm nut > from the top of the shock to get to the shock mount. I can't seem to > get a firm grasp on the shock itself, even with the open end of a 6mm > wrench (to keep the shock from turning). How has everyone removed this > successfully? Is it merely using a vice grip on the end to keep the > shock from turning? > > Thanks, > > Dat > '97 M3 > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#10. Rad or oil catch can needed for 98 M3 in CR? - from Vern Anderson
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Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 11:19:25 -0800 (PST) From: Vern Anderson <vernon_anderson@yahoo.com> Subject: Rad or oil catch can needed for 98 M3 in CR? Hello all, I'm finishing off my 98 M3 into an IP car for BMWCCA CR. Both the radiator overflow and oil breather seem to be closed (not venting to the atmosphere). Does anyone know if that is the case and if I need to add a catch can for either? Thanks in advance. Vern Anderson 98 M3/2

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