E36M3 #4130

Saturday, February 12, 2005 09:07:50

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#1. Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... - from Jim Bassett
#2. Re: I need driving lessons... - from Ron Buchalski
#3. heat cycling question - from Hunt Hodgetts
#4. Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question - from Chester Wong
#5. Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question - from Jim Bassett
#6. RE: [E36M3] heat cycling question - from Seth Thomas
#7. Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... - from Som Naderi
#8. Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... - from Jim Bassett
#9. GGC BMW CCA at Infineon March 5 & 6 - from Mark Dadgar
#10. question about aluminum Thermostat housing - from Mdriver13@aol.com

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#1. Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:28:18 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... On Fri, February 11, 2005 9:37 am, Som Naderi said: > Should this be good enough to avoid > getting the front aligned again? (I just got it aligned a month ago) When I had tie rods replaced, I had the car re-aligned. But then, I tend to be, ummmm, rather "particular" about such things. :-) > Now my steering wheel needs to be turned to about 1 o'clock to get the car > to go straight. Is this easy to fix? Is it just a matter of the tie rods > being set incorrectly (left too short, right too long) Generally, this is the case, and can be adjusted by moving the tie rods an equal amount to eliminate the off-centeredness. My local alignment guy (Tony @ TC Design - gratuitous plug :-)) did this for me on the race car. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP P.S. Will you be up at THill w/NASA next weekend? First 2005 Club Race, so I'll be there.

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#2. Re: I need driving lessons... - from Ron Buchalski
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 12:38:25 -0600 From: "Ron Buchalski" <rbuchals@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: I need driving lessons... Are you a member of BMWCCA? The annual Nurburgring driving school takes place in August, and registration begins next month. You'll get plenty of lessons and track time during the three days, and you'll also have time to go out on your own during "public laps". Also, this is the only time (that I know of) where you can do multiple laps of the track without pulling off after each lap. I highly suggest it! Here's the info from Dan Tackett: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BMW CCA ITINERARY (not final yet but very close): Aug 3 Arrival (Frankfurt airport recommended), 1-hour drive to hotel in charming Bad Dürkheim (near Mannheim), evening Welcome Reception Aug 4 AM drive to visit huge automotive and transportation museum in Sinsheim http://www.museum-sinsheim.de/, PM visit Hockenheimring Formula 1 track + racing museum, 6 PM open for driving public laps on the Grand Prix course! Aug 5 Group drive through wine country and Mosel River valley to hotel in the Roman-founded city of Trier Aug 6 OPTIONS: Short autobahn drive to Nürburgring to watch DTM race day 1 OR day trip to visit Spa Formula 1 track OR day trip drive to Belgium +Luxemburg OR relaxing day in historic, tourist-friendly Trier. Aug 7 Short autobahn drive to Nürburgring http://213.239.207.198/nuerburgring.de/index.php?id=186&L=1 to watch DTM race day 2, PM check into trackside Dorint Hotel, pick up School registration packets, Welcome Dinner (likely) Aug 8 Nürburgring Driving School Day 1, 8 AM to 8 PM Aug 9 Nürburgring Driving School Day 2, 8 AM to 8 PM, BMW CCA Group Italian dinner Aug 10 AM final full-lap practice, PM Graded Lap, Evening Awards Banquet Aug 11 Farewell breakfast HOW TO RESERVE YOUR SPOT IN THE NURBURGRING SCHOOL We take reservations for the openings on a first come-first served basis. We want to give an equal chance to members who will first hear about the School in the March Roundel issue. The fairest way to sequence everybody is by telephone call, so here's how it works: *Reservations will be taken starting on Monday, March 21st at 10:00 AM Eastern time. *Call the BMW CCA National Office at 864/250-0022 *Provide your name, BMW CCA membership number, email address, telephone number, shipping address, and MC or VISA information for a $500 deposit. *You may reserve up to two spots (you and your Driving Partner) in one phone call. Have the above info for the 2nd person too. *If you have already chosen your Driving Partner (2 drivers per car maximizes the openings), let them know when you call. *You will later be notified by email whether you're in the 2005 School or on the waiting list. *Your deposit is refundable in full if you cancel before April 15th (so you can make flight and vacation plans). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -rb (Nurburgring 2000, 2001, 2002) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:05:21 -0800 (PST) From: L R <lhrc51@yahoo.com> Subject: I need driving lessons... ///M Power baby!... http://gvk.altrezia.com/m3_gtr_nurburgring.wmv

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#3. heat cycling question - from Hunt Hodgetts
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:44:36 -0800 (PST) From: Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> Subject: heat cycling question I just bought a set of 17" Michelin Pilot Sport tires and need to heat cycle them. The problem is that I'm in Atlanta and it's 38 degrees outside. What is the minimum temperature where I can effectively heat cycle tires? Hunt Hodgetts - Atlanta 95 M3, AA supercharger

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#4. Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:53:56 -0800 (PST) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question Pilot Sports or Pilot Sport Cups?? Other than that, I have no useful information to contribute :) Chester --- Hunt Hodgetts <hhodgetts@yahoo.com> wrote: > I just bought a set of 17" Michelin Pilot Sport tires > and need to heat cycle them. The problem is that I'm > in Atlanta and it's 38 degrees outside. What is the > minimum temperature where I can effectively heat cycle > tires? =====

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#5. Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:14:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question On Fri, February 11, 2005 10:57 am, Chester Wong said: > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:53:56 -0800 (PST) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question > > Pilot Sports or Pilot Sport Cups?? Other than that, I have no useful > information to contribute :) I had the same question as Chester :-) The Pilot Sports are street tires and don't need to be heat cycled as such. As with any new tire, you should be fairly gentle on them for the first 100 miles or so, to effectively scrub them in. The Pilot Sport Cups are an R-compound tire, and will work best with heat-cycling. Typically you get the tire up to operating temperature (160F-200F) and then let them sit for 24-48 hours. With a 38F ambient, I would think it would be pretty difficult to get the tires up to the appropriate temperature on the street, legally and safely <g>. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - shod with Pilot Sports 1993 325is #44 JP - have driven to work on new Victoracers in the past in an attempt to moderately heat-cycle them, legally and safely of course :-)

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#6. RE: [E36M3] heat cycling question - from Seth Thomas
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:31:58 -0500 From: "Seth Thomas" <porsche993@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] heat cycling question Picture a big parking lot with not a lot of people around. Go there and drive the car in medium to tight circles increasing and decreasing the speed. Do this until the tires get up to temp or until you get nauseated. This is about the only way you can heat cycle a set of tires on the street safely. Jim is also right about the temps. Get the tire up to its operating temps of around 200 degrees. I don't know how this will work in 38 degree weather but the sun is out here so the asphalt does have some heat in it. Seth Thomas www.bimmerworldracing.com -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 2:17 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:14:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question On Fri, February 11, 2005 10:57 am, Chester Wong said: > Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:53:56 -0800 (PST) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] heat cycling question > > Pilot Sports or Pilot Sport Cups?? Other than that, I have no useful > information to contribute :) I had the same question as Chester :-) The Pilot Sports are street tires and don't need to be heat cycled as such. As with any new tire, you should be fairly gentle on them for the first 100 miles or so, to effectively scrub them in. The Pilot Sport Cups are an R-compound tire, and will work best with heat-cycling. Typically you get the tire up to operating temperature (160F-200F) and then let them sit for 24-48 hours. With a 38F ambient, I would think it would be pretty difficult to get the tires up to the appropriate temperature on the street, legally and safely <g>. Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - shod with Pilot Sports 1993 325is #44 JP - have driven to work on new Victoracers in the past in an attempt to moderately heat-cycle them, legally and safely of course :-) ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#7. Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... - from Som Naderi
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:19:47 -0800 From: "Som Naderi" <som@dimensionracing.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... For some reason I thought there was another way to do it. I remember getting my oil changed at Sears a couple years ago and they asked me if my steering wheel pointed straight. I said no, and they fixed it without charging me anything extra. I figured if they had touched the tie rods they would have at least charged me something. I feel all dumb now -- "My wheels don't point straight, do I need to align my wheels?" Thanks Walter! :) As for Thunderhill, unfortunately I won't be there this event. The people that I needed to get rides with (from the airport and to the track) either weren't going to the event or didn't get back to me until yesterday. At this point the tickets cost about $100 more than usual and I ended up saying okay to other invitations for that weekend. I hope to be at the next event, though! I haven't been to the tracks since the 25 Hour and I MISS THE SMELL!!! Good luck out there! Catch some air over turn 5 for me! - Som On Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:28:18 -0800 (PST), Jim Bassett wrote > On Fri, February 11, 2005 9:37 am, Som Naderi said: > > Should this be good enough to avoid > > getting the front aligned again? (I just got it aligned a month ago) > > When I had tie rods replaced, I had the car re-aligned. But then, I tend > to be, ummmm, rather "particular" about such things. :-) > > > Now my steering wheel needs to be turned to about 1 o'clock to get the car > > to go straight. Is this easy to fix? Is it just a matter of the tie rods > > being set incorrectly (left too short, right too long) > > Generally, this is the case, and can be adjusted by moving the tie > rods an equal amount to eliminate the off-centeredness. My local > alignment guy > (Tony @ TC Design - gratuitous plug :-)) did this for me on the race > car. > > Hope that helps, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44 JP > > P.S. Will you be up at THill w/NASA next weekend? First 2005 Club > Race, so I'll be there.

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#8. Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 14:26:08 -0800 (PST) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] New tie rods... On Fri, February 11, 2005 2:19 pm, Som Naderi said: > I figured if they had touched the tie rods > they would have at least charged me something. When done right, it takes less than 5 minutes and doesn't even involve a lift :-) > As for Thunderhill, unfortunately I won't be there this event. Bummer. > I haven't been to the tracks since the 25 Hour and I MISS THE > SMELL!!! "I love the smell of brake pads in the morning" :-) > Good luck out there! Thanks! > Catch some air over turn 5 for me! Ummm, sure (not :-)). Jim Bassett

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#9. GGC BMW CCA at Infineon March 5 & 6 - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 15:02:28 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: GGC BMW CCA at Infineon March 5 & 6 FYI, GGC BMW CCA is having a school at Infineon the weekend of March 5 & 6, 2005. BMW ownership is not required (but is certainly encouraged!). Full details at: http://www.ggcbmwcca.org/ Price is $499 for BMW CCA members and $539 for non-members (1 year BMW CCA membership included). - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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#10. question about aluminum Thermostat housing - from Mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 09:58:03 EST From: Mdriver13@aol.com Subject: question about aluminum Thermostat housing Hi group, After reading the many stories about plastic thermostat housing failures, I decided to purchase one of the aluminum type with the profile gasket from AJ-USA for $29.94. Motor has just over 40K, so this failure could happen at any time. Anyway, could someone tell me if what I'm seeing is correct. There is a small hole (1/4") that looks like it should allow coolant to flow between the two chambers. In the thermostat chamber the hole is barely visible (no larger than a pin head, but looking from the smaller chamber the hole is about 1/4" size. Should it be the same size from chamber to chamber or did I get a defective housing???? If it should be the same size, I can just drill it out myself. TIA. Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA 2nd Place BSP - PA State Championship 2004

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