E36M3 #4171

Thursday, March 10, 2005 08:37:34

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Loose Heat Shield - from Alan Leung
#2. Re: [E36M3] The J'A'Pness-ette of Powell - from Sue Kraft
#3. My 2 cents on camber plates - from Jim
#4. HIR bulb link - from Hans Batra
#5. Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield - from Shelhart2@aol.com
#6. Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield - from jason
#7. Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates - from Alain van der Heide
#8. Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates - from mdriver13@aol.com
#9. Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates - from Jay W. Hudson
#10. RE: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield - from Robert Chay

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#1. Loose Heat Shield - from Alan Leung
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 10:39:38 -0600 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: Loose Heat Shield <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE> <P>On a topic slightly less exciting than HIR .... someone asked about a loose heat shield making noise yesterday.  Yes it's a common problem and you can get the whole cat replaced under BMW's 80k emissions control equipment warranty.  But at your mileage the warranty option is out so I'd simply take the heat shield off.  Just remember not to run your car on tall grass  ;-></P> <P>Alan</P> <P>95 M3 - looking for new suspension<BR><BR></P></DIV></div></html>

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#2. Re: [E36M3] The J'A'Pness-ette of Powell - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 14:00:59 -0600 From: Sue Kraft <suekraft@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] The J'A'Pness-ette of Powell Sorry guys, had major eye surgery last week and have not been able to monitor the list. Things are still pretty blurry, so I'm not even going to try to wade through all the crap. J'A'P, you've had your fun, now it's time to let the stench clear. Sue

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#3. My 2 cents on camber plates - from Jim
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:00:05 -0800 From: Jim <rx3sp@lanset.com> Subject: My 2 cents on camber plates Any camber plate I have ever seen ,Original equipment like Chevys and Fords, or aftermarket ones required to enable adjustment on cars like BMW's, rely on friction to keep the plate from moving. Three little 8mm bolts is very common on BMW upper mounts, and when torqued to a whopping 18ft/lbs, there is just not much clamping force. So the method is to clamp a lot of surface area. This surface area makes it prone to stay put, which is what you want driving around town. Here is the deal, even when you jack up one side of the car to lift the front wheel off the ground, you are fighting the sway bar. The sway bar keeps the car from tilting when the car is on the road, and it keeps the car from tilting when 1 wheel is still on the road. The bigger the sway bar, the more friction at the camber plate, even with the bolts loosened. Lift BOTH front wheels off the ground so you are not fighting the sway bar, and you can move the camber/caster plate with your thumb. -- Jay Morris

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#4. HIR bulb link - from Hans Batra
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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 16:34:23 -0500 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: HIR bulb link Folks, http://bmwz.org/articles/lighting/0506trick/ Sorry if this is a re-post. regards, Hans

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield - from Shelhart2@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20:56:47 EST From: Shelhart2@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield I'm referring to the shield under the rear muffler and not the cat. My cat is fine. The rear heat shield seems to be vibrting against the body of the car at certain rpm's and drive me nuts. Can I replace the shield beneath my rear muffler or is there another option? Shel

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield - from jason
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Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 20:31:00 -0800 From: jason <jason@doomba.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield if its the same shield that broke on mine its actually the weld between the bracket and exhaust pipe. it just wasn't welded very well and broke. only takes about 5 secs each with a welder to fix. in bay area (CA)? jason On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 20:06 -0600, Shelhart2@aol.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 20:56:47 EST > From: Shelhart2@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield > > I'm referring to the shield under the rear muffler and not the cat. My cat > is fine. The rear heat shield seems to be vibrting against the body of the > car at certain rpm's and drive me nuts. Can I replace the shield beneath my > rear muffler or is there another option? > > Shel > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#7. Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates - from Alain van der Heide
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Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:40:35 -0700 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:00:05 -0800 > From: Jim <rx3sp@lanset.com> > [snip] > Here is the deal, even when you jack up one side of the car to lift the > front wheel off the ground, you are fighting the sway bar. The sway bar > keeps the car from tilting when the car is on the road, and it keeps the > car from tilting when 1 wheel is still on the road. The bigger the sway > bar, the more friction at the camber plate, even with the bolts loosened. > > Lift BOTH front wheels off the ground so you are not fighting the sway > bar, and you can move the camber/caster plate with your thumb. True. I just wish the cheapo 35 lb Aluminum jack I bring with me would go under the front of the car. But now I have a viable alternative. - Alain

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#8. Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates - from mdriver13@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:36:46 -0500 From: mdriver13@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates If I could get my jack under the front spoiler, where is the best point to place the jack? I was not aware this could be done. TIA, Bob Gill 97 ///M3 coupe Philly Region SCCA BSP Champ '01 and '02 -----Original Message----- From: Alain van der Heide <ajvdh1@comcast.net> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:46:19 -0600 Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:40:35 -0700 From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:00:05 -0800 > From: Jim <rx3sp@lanset.com> > [snip] > Here is the deal, even when you jack up one side of the car to lift the > front wheel off the ground, you are fighting the sway bar. The sway bar > keeps the car from tilting when the car is on the road, and it keeps the > car from tilting when 1 wheel is still on the road. The bigger the sway > bar, the more friction at the camber plate, even with the bolts loosened. > > Lift BOTH front wheels off the ground so you are not fighting the sway > bar, and you can move the camber/caster plate with your thumb. True. I just wish the cheapo 35 lb Aluminum jack I bring with me would go under the front of the car. But now I have a viable alternative. - Alain ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#9. Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates - from Jay W. Hudson
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 06:10:01 -0800 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates Drive the car up on ramps 1st, then jack from cross member. Or, use a floor jack on each side under the front jack points. Jay > Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:36:46 -0500 > From: mdriver13@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates > > If I could get my jack under the front spoiler, where is the best point to place the jack? I was not aware this could be done. > > TIA, > > Bob Gill > 97 ///M3 coupe > Philly Region SCCA > BSP Champ '01 and '02 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Alain van der Heide <ajvdh1@comcast.net> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 22:46:19 -0600 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates > > > Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 21:40:35 -0700 > From: "Alain van der Heide" <ajvdh1@comcast.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] My 2 cents on camber plates > > > Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 12:00:05 -0800 > > From: Jim <rx3sp@lanset.com> > > [snip] > > Here is the deal, even when you jack up one side of the car to lift the > front wheel off the ground, you are fighting the sway bar. The sway bar > keeps the car from tilting when the car is on the road, and it keeps the > car from tilting when 1 wheel is still on the road. The bigger the sway > bar, the more friction at the camber plate, even with the bolts loosened. > > > > Lift BOTH front wheels off the ground so you are not fighting the sway > bar, and you can move the camber/caster plate with your thumb. > > True. I just wish the cheapo 35 lb Aluminum jack I bring with me would go under the front of the car. But now I have a viable alternative. > > - Alain

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield - from Robert Chay
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Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 09:28:36 -0500 From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Loose Heat Shield Or you can just take it off and bent up the tabs so they don't rattle/vibrate/piss you off. That's what I did on my SS exhaust. -Bobby > -----Original Message----- > From: jason > > if its the same shield that broke on mine its actually the > weld between > the bracket and exhaust pipe. it just wasn't welded very well and > broke. > > only takes about 5 secs each with a welder to fix. in bay area (CA)? > > jason >

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