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#1. Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Greg Cagle
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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 23:10:40 -0800 From: Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> Subject: Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? Don Eilenberger wrote: > Comment/question to Garry, who wrote: Not sure who Garry is - I'm Greg. >> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:33:02 -0800, Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> >> wrote: >> > Ted - the high beams are H1s as well. I just got the Osrams >> > from powerbulbs.com, and they are very nice indeed. You can >> > put higher wattage H1s in any position if you upgrade >> > the fuses; the wiring can take it. I had 100W H1s in my >> > high beams for a long time. > > > Gary - have you measured the voltage at the back of the 100W > bulbs? Or the voltage drop (good way is to use a voltmeter > between the filament connection on the bulb to the battery jump > start point in the engine compartment. I'd be VERY curious what > you measure. Don - as I said, I no longer have the 100W bulbs in the car. I now run Euro Osram Silverstars in all four positions. I may dork around with the 100W bulbs this weekend since I have to reaim my headlights anyway; I'll see if I can get a measurement for you. > Also - the comment - in the testing I've done - a limited amount > so far on overwattage bulbs - the claimed 100W bulb I tested > actually was 68W, and the blue coating over it made it put out > considerably less light than a standard halogen bulb. When I bought the bulbs a few years back the conventional wisdom was that they weren't a lot better, if any, than the 55W. To my untrained but critical eye, I believe that to be correct; they looked about the same, which is why they no longer live in my car. They did not have a blue coating, btw. Just a straight 100W H1. I'll see if I can dig them out and figure out where they came from. > If this is true with your 100W H1 - it might explain why > your wiring hasn't been overloaded yet. I have seen BMW > wiring melt down on the 2-wheeled ones with as little as an 80W > bulb being used (usually the headlight switch, and the headlight > socket are first to go.) That's interesting but I don't see how it's relevant to the discussion. Have you any four wheeled data points? > I think the euro Silverstar or Philips VisionPlus are probably > a better idea in the long run than overwattage bulbs. Which is what I'm using now - the Euro Silverstar. - Greg -- Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com
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#2. E30 Restoration Project - from driver8 ///M3
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 04:37:28 -0800 (PST) From: driver8 ///M3 <driver8m3@yahoo.com> Subject: E30 Restoration Project A friend of a friend is looking to restore an aged E30 325. Not looking to make it a show car, just go over it completely and repair/replace worn parts, new paint, etc. Anyone on the list know of a particular shop in the Baltimore/DC area that could handle something like that? Thanks.
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#3. Re: Headlight relays - from Chip Mitchell
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 07:56:15 -0500 From: Chip Mitchell <chipmitchell@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Headlight relays So you're saying it would be helpful to replace my 10-year old relays with new ones, or with something different? Or do the stock headlights even have relays? Chip > > BTW - one more way to really increase light from your E36 - > headlight relays. You'd be surprised how a 10% drop in voltage > getting to the headlight (not at all uncommon on a BMW) can > result in ~40% less light (for real!) and it only gets worse > at the cars get older. >
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#4. Shirt eta - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:17:39 EST From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Shirt eta Looks like the T shirts will be done early next week and the knit's the end of the week or so. I am depositing all the checks Monday I have been too busy! I am going to wait and send out the shirts togeterh unless you just ordered the T shirt. Then you will get yours when i get them in. Thanks! Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team
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#5. Tires For Sale - from Martin Bullen
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:46:29 -0500 From: Martin Bullen <vze322dw@verizon.net> Subject: Tires For Sale I have 3 Bridgestone Potenza RE730, 225/45-17 that I'm looking to sell. Tires are in good shape, with no plugs or repairs. 6/32 tread remaining (original was 10/32, so they're about 1/2 worn). Looking for $50 each, plus shipping from 19301 Martin Bullen '95 M3 '97 Z3 2.8
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#6. fender rolling tool - from rfkoby@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 10:59:26 -0500 From: rfkoby@aol.com Subject: fender rolling tool TireRack now has a lower cost Fender Lip Rolling Tool. Can purchase the old one (as used) for this new price also. 1 catch, cannot do large the 74.5mm hubs on BME 5 series, and cannot do 5-130 Porsche bolt pattern. http://www.tirerack.com/accessories/tools/tools_all.jsp
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#7. Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:13:51 -0500 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? At 02:10 AM 3/25/2005, Greg Cagle wrote: >Don Eilenberger wrote: > >>Comment/question to Garry, who wrote: > >Not sure who Garry is - I'm Greg. Brain fart.. that happens sometimes. Sorry (but if there is a Garry listening..) >>>On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:33:02 -0800, Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> wrote: >>> > Ted - the high beams are H1s as well. I just got the Osrams >>> > from powerbulbs.com, and they are very nice indeed. You can >>> > put higher wattage H1s in any position if you upgrade >>> > the fuses; the wiring can take it. I had 100W H1s in my >>> > high beams for a long time. >> >>Gary - have you measured the voltage at the back of the 100W >>bulbs? Or the voltage drop (good way is to use a voltmeter >>between the filament connection on the bulb to the battery jump >>start point in the engine compartment. I'd be VERY curious what >>you measure. > >Don - as I said, I no longer have the 100W bulbs in the car. >I now run Euro Osram Silverstars in all four positions. I >may dork around with the 100W bulbs this weekend since I >have to reaim my headlights anyway; I'll see if I can get a >measurement for you. If possible - could I get a 100W one (actually just need one) from you? My next set of tests is going to be on euro housings, and having an over-wattage H1 would be very handy. I'll be able to give you some very accurate numbers. >>Also - the comment - in the testing I've done - a limited amount >>so far on overwattage bulbs - the claimed 100W bulb I tested >>actually was 68W, and the blue coating over it made it put out >>considerably less light than a standard halogen bulb. > >When I bought the bulbs a few years back the conventional >wisdom was that they weren't a lot better, if any, than >the 55W. To my untrained but critical eye, I believe that >to be correct; they looked about the same, which is >why they no longer live in my car. They did not have a >blue coating, btw. Just a straight 100W H1. I'll see if >I can dig them out and figure out where they came from. That would be cool, and if I could borrow one for a bit.. >>If this is true with your 100W H1 - it might explain why >>your wiring hasn't been overloaded yet. I have seen BMW >>wiring melt down on the 2-wheeled ones with as little as an 80W >>bulb being used (usually the headlight switch, and the headlight >>socket are first to go.) > >That's interesting but I don't see how it's relevant to >the discussion. Have you any four wheeled data points? If you have both BMW type vehicles - you'll see a lot of similarities on the design. A case of an acorn not dropping far from a tree... the wiring of the headlight circuit on the E36 series is even longer than the wiring of the circuits on a BMW K series bike, but it still uses the same size wiring. I have also read on various forums of E36's melting down the headlight connectors and housings starting to distort and melt on various E36 boards I monitor. I didn't bother marking those URL's, but will in the future since there may be some interest in others experiences. >>I think the euro Silverstar or Philips VisionPlus are probably >>a better idea in the long run than overwattage bulbs. > >Which is what I'm using now - the Euro Silverstar. Good bulb. Can't imagine why Sylvania is sticking it to the US market with the bling-blue-POS they're selling here except that blue apparently sells better (and they are prominently advertising and displaying these bulbs..) >- Greg >-- >Greg Cagle >gregc at gregcagle dot com Best, _______D_o_n__________S_p_r_i_n_g__L_a_k_e__H_t_s____________©1946________ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ - http://www.njsbmwr.org/ '98 M3c/5, '03 525iT, '87 K75S
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:24:21 -0500 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? Don, Been following this for a while. Do you have a source for the Euro Silverstars in H1? All the Silverstars I've been able to find are the 9005/6 variety. Thanks Carey Don Eilenberger wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:13:51 -0500 > From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? > > At 02:10 AM 3/25/2005, Greg Cagle wrote: > >> Don Eilenberger wrote: >> >>> Comment/question to Garry, who wrote: >> >> >> Not sure who Garry is - I'm Greg. > > > Brain fart.. that happens sometimes. Sorry (but if there is a > Garry listening..) > >>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:33:02 -0800, Greg Cagle >>>> <gregc@gregcagle.com> wrote: >>>> > Ted - the high beams are H1s as well. I just got the Osrams >>>> > from powerbulbs.com, and they are very nice indeed. You can >>>> > put higher wattage H1s in any position if you upgrade >>>> > the fuses; the wiring can take it. I had 100W H1s in my >>>> > high beams for a long time. >>> >>> >>> Gary - have you measured the voltage at the back of the 100W >>> bulbs? Or the voltage drop (good way is to use a voltmeter >>> between the filament connection on the bulb to the battery jump >>> start point in the engine compartment. I'd be VERY curious what >>> you measure. >> >> >> Don - as I said, I no longer have the 100W bulbs in the car. >> I now run Euro Osram Silverstars in all four positions. I >> may dork around with the 100W bulbs this weekend since I >> have to reaim my headlights anyway; I'll see if I can get a >> measurement for you. > > > If possible - could I get a 100W one (actually just need > one) from you? My next set of tests is going to be on euro > housings, and having an over-wattage H1 would be very handy. > > I'll be able to give you some very accurate numbers. > >>> Also - the comment - in the testing I've done - a limited amount >>> so far on overwattage bulbs - the claimed 100W bulb I tested >>> actually was 68W, and the blue coating over it made it put out >>> considerably less light than a standard halogen bulb. >> >> >> When I bought the bulbs a few years back the conventional >> wisdom was that they weren't a lot better, if any, than >> the 55W. To my untrained but critical eye, I believe that >> to be correct; they looked about the same, which is >> why they no longer live in my car. They did not have a >> blue coating, btw. Just a straight 100W H1. I'll see if >> I can dig them out and figure out where they came from. > > > That would be cool, and if I could borrow one for a bit.. > >>> If this is true with your 100W H1 - it might explain why >>> your wiring hasn't been overloaded yet. I have seen BMW >>> wiring melt down on the 2-wheeled ones with as little as an 80W >>> bulb being used (usually the headlight switch, and the headlight >>> socket are first to go.) >> >> >> That's interesting but I don't see how it's relevant to >> the discussion. Have you any four wheeled data points? > > > If you have both BMW type vehicles - you'll see a lot > of similarities on the design. A case of an acorn not > dropping far from a tree... the wiring of the headlight > circuit on the E36 series is even longer than the wiring > of the circuits on a BMW K series bike, but it still uses > the same size wiring. I have also read on various forums > of E36's melting down the headlight connectors and housings > starting to distort and melt on various E36 boards I monitor. > > I didn't bother marking those URL's, but will in the future > since there may be some interest in others experiences. > >>> I think the euro Silverstar or Philips VisionPlus are probably >>> a better idea in the long run than overwattage bulbs. >> >> >> Which is what I'm using now - the Euro Silverstar. > > > Good bulb. Can't imagine why Sylvania is sticking it to the > US market with the bling-blue-POS they're selling here except > that blue apparently sells better (and they are prominently > advertising and displaying these bulbs..) > >> - Greg >> -- >> Greg Cagle >> gregc at gregcagle dot com > > > Best, > > _______D_o_n__________S_p_r_i_n_g__L_a_k_e__H_t_s____________©1946________ > > Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ - http://www.njsbmwr.org/ > '98 M3c/5, '03 525iT, '87 K75S > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Greg Cagle
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 08:40:18 -0800 From: Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? Got mine from powerbulbs.com in the UK. - Greg Carey Probst wrote: > Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:24:21 -0500 > From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? > > Don, > > Been following this for a while. Do you have a source for the Euro > Silverstars in H1? > > All the Silverstars I've been able to find are the 9005/6 variety. > > Thanks > > Carey > > Don Eilenberger wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:13:51 -0500 >> From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? >> >> At 02:10 AM 3/25/2005, Greg Cagle wrote: >> >>> Don Eilenberger wrote: >>> >>>> Comment/question to Garry, who wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Not sure who Garry is - I'm Greg. >> >> >> >> Brain fart.. that happens sometimes. Sorry (but if there is a >> Garry listening..) >> >>>>> On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 13:33:02 -0800, Greg Cagle >>>>> <gregc@gregcagle.com> wrote: >>>>> > Ted - the high beams are H1s as well. I just got the Osrams >>>>> > from powerbulbs.com, and they are very nice indeed. You can >>>>> > put higher wattage H1s in any position if you upgrade >>>>> > the fuses; the wiring can take it. I had 100W H1s in my >>>>> > high beams for a long time. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary - have you measured the voltage at the back of the 100W >>>> bulbs? Or the voltage drop (good way is to use a voltmeter >>>> between the filament connection on the bulb to the battery jump >>>> start point in the engine compartment. I'd be VERY curious what >>>> you measure. >>> >>> >>> >>> Don - as I said, I no longer have the 100W bulbs in the car. >>> I now run Euro Osram Silverstars in all four positions. I >>> may dork around with the 100W bulbs this weekend since I >>> have to reaim my headlights anyway; I'll see if I can get a >>> measurement for you. >> >> >> >> If possible - could I get a 100W one (actually just need >> one) from you? My next set of tests is going to be on euro >> housings, and having an over-wattage H1 would be very handy. >> >> I'll be able to give you some very accurate numbers. >> >>>> Also - the comment - in the testing I've done - a limited amount >>>> so far on overwattage bulbs - the claimed 100W bulb I tested >>>> actually was 68W, and the blue coating over it made it put out >>>> considerably less light than a standard halogen bulb. >>> >>> >>> >>> When I bought the bulbs a few years back the conventional >>> wisdom was that they weren't a lot better, if any, than >>> the 55W. To my untrained but critical eye, I believe that >>> to be correct; they looked about the same, which is >>> why they no longer live in my car. They did not have a >>> blue coating, btw. Just a straight 100W H1. I'll see if >>> I can dig them out and figure out where they came from. >> >> >> >> That would be cool, and if I could borrow one for a bit.. >> >>>> If this is true with your 100W H1 - it might explain why >>>> your wiring hasn't been overloaded yet. I have seen BMW >>>> wiring melt down on the 2-wheeled ones with as little as an 80W >>>> bulb being used (usually the headlight switch, and the headlight >>>> socket are first to go.) >>> >>> >>> >>> That's interesting but I don't see how it's relevant to >>> the discussion. Have you any four wheeled data points? >> >> >> >> If you have both BMW type vehicles - you'll see a lot >> of similarities on the design. A case of an acorn not >> dropping far from a tree... the wiring of the headlight >> circuit on the E36 series is even longer than the wiring >> of the circuits on a BMW K series bike, but it still uses >> the same size wiring. I have also read on various forums >> of E36's melting down the headlight connectors and housings >> starting to distort and melt on various E36 boards I monitor. >> >> I didn't bother marking those URL's, but will in the future >> since there may be some interest in others experiences. >> >>>> I think the euro Silverstar or Philips VisionPlus are probably >>>> a better idea in the long run than overwattage bulbs. >>> >>> >>> >>> Which is what I'm using now - the Euro Silverstar. >> >> >> >> Good bulb. Can't imagine why Sylvania is sticking it to the >> US market with the bling-blue-POS they're selling here except >> that blue apparently sells better (and they are prominently >> advertising and displaying these bulbs..) >> >>> - Greg >>> -- >>> Greg Cagle >>> gregc at gregcagle dot com >> >> >> >> Best, >> >> _______D_o_n__________S_p_r_i_n_g__L_a_k_e__H_t_s____________©1946________ >> >> Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ - http://www.njsbmwr.org/ >> '98 M3c/5, '03 525iT, '87 K75S >> >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> >> > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > -- Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com
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#10. Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:03:06 -0500 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? > Got mine from powerbulbs.com in the UK. > > > Been following this for a while. Do you have a source for the Euro > > Silverstars in H1? Agreed here, got my Osram Silverstars as well. Super website, very fast and easy and FREE shipping too, even from the UK. Thumbs up for that! ted
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#11. Re: [E36M3] RE: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Murray Roblin
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 09:05:05 -0800 From: Murray Roblin <mdrlist@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:00:32 -0600, Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> wrote: > in RE: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? > > > BTW - one more way to really increase light from your E36 - > headlight relays. You'd be surprised how a 10% drop in voltage > getting to the headlight (not at all uncommon on a BMW) can > result in ~40% less light (for real!) and it only gets worse > at the cars get older. > Don, I'm a bit confused. As I understand it, the E36 already uses headlight relays, which are located in the main power box in the engine compartment. Are you suggesting that these are inadequate, or that the wiring from these relays to the headlights is inadequate? Are you suggesting that a second set of of relays be installed between the factory relays and the headlamps, with a new power cable run? Thanks, Murray -- Murray Roblin Palo Alto
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#12. Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 12:09:39 -0500 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: size of bulbs in ellipsoids? > If you wanted to contribute to part 2 of the E36 lighting article > and loan me these bulbs for a few days.. You'd get a nice thank > you in Roundel :-) And I'd fed-ex them right back to you.. Hey Don I might be able to work something out here. I ordered 2 sets of the Osrams Silverstars... one for low beams and foglights, but I think I'm going to throw another set in my hibeams as well, so I need to order another set. Contact me off list and we can work something out here. > BTW - one more way to really increase light from your E36 - > headlight relays. You'd be surprised how a 10% drop in voltage > getting to the headlight (not at all uncommon on a BMW) can > result in 40% less light (for real!) and it only gets worse > at the cars get older. Yeah I think I'm gonna stray from those 100W bulbs but I'm very interested in replacing my relays to improve my ellipsoids + 55W bulbs. Any part numbers for these or place to get these relays? Best to replace all of the relays in the fusebox on the drivers side under the hood? Anywhere else? Details!!! Thanks! ted