E36M3 #4229

Friday, April 08, 2005 11:37:29

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#1. Re: [E36M3] What's wrong with this? - from Rex Tener
#2. bleeding brakes - from Paul Smith
#3. RE: [E36M3] bleeding brakes - from Mel Silva
#4. Re: [E36M3] Car shipment - from J Files
#5. Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes - from Scott M
#6. 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from Lee Piccione
#7. Re: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from arionatof@comcast.net
#8. RE: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from Jeremy Conners
#9. Re: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from Jim Bassett
#10. Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes - from Carey Probst

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#1. Re: [E36M3] What's wrong with this? - from Rex Tener
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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 17:03:18 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What's wrong with this? At 02:39 PM 4/7/2005 -0600, Mark Dadgar wrote: >On Apr 7, 2005, at 1:29 PM, Wayne Miller wrote: >>>I think the HP difference is actually due to a more restrictive exhaust on >>>the MCoupe, given the tighter packaging requirements. >> >>It could be partially due to the exhaust but it also has a lower redline - I >>believe it is 7,600 RPM vs. 8,000 RPM. > >I had no idea. I wonder why? My best guess is they didn't want it to be faster than the E46 M3. They put a 3.15 rear end in too, instead of the 3.23 that all the other M Coupes had. Oh well, I bought one anyway. :-) -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com

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#2. bleeding brakes - from Paul Smith
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:37:03 -0500 From: Paul Smith <Paul.Smith@ontariosystems.com> Subject: bleeding brakes Okay, I have a DE next weekend. I need to change the brake fluid. I have the pressure bleeder. Did a search and saw some info, but need to ask. So I will Slowly fill the pressure tank with new fluid Attach cap (w/15 lbs or so) Start at rear pass caliper until new fluid comes through bubblle free Move to others. IS there no pumping of the brake pedal? Any worries about a 98 M3 with traction control? Thanks Paul smith 98M3/4/5speed Putnam bound!!!

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#3. RE: [E36M3] bleeding brakes - from Mel Silva
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:51:13 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] bleeding brakes Paul, I would start at the left front to get all the old fluid out of the reservoir. Once you see new fluid, go to rear pass as you suggest and move wheel to wheel toward the master cylinder. Don't forget the clutch slave! With the pressure bleeder there is no pumping of the brakes, but make sure you a) don't run out of fluid in the pressure tanks and b) have something to collect the spent fluid in. I use a two liter bottle with a length of vinyl tubing running between it and the caliper. With the pressure bleeder you don't have to submerge the collection line in the fluid since you're not pumping the pedal and you won't get any 'backwash' from the collection bottle. Mel -----Original Message----- From: Paul Smith [mailto:Paul.Smith@ontariosystems.com] Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:40 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] bleeding brakes Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:37:03 -0500 From: Paul Smith <Paul.Smith@ontariosystems.com> Subject: bleeding brakes Okay, I have a DE next weekend. I need to change the brake fluid. I have the pressure bleeder. Did a search and saw some info, but need to ask. So I will Slowly fill the pressure tank with new fluid Attach cap (w/15 lbs or so) Start at rear pass caliper until new fluid comes through bubblle free Move to others. IS there no pumping of the brake pedal? Any worries about a 98 M3 with traction control? Thanks Paul smith 98M3/4/5speed Putnam bound!!! ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Car shipment - from J Files
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Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 21:07:48 -0700 From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Car shipment Scott, Not to knock your potential out of state buyer, I do not doubt that they exist. Just make sure its not something like the "Nigerian Cashiers Check scam" http://www.carbuyingtips.com/nigerian-scams.htm. When we were selling my wife's E46, we got about a dozen out of state buyers asking to pay with a cashier's check and have the car shipped to them. No relevant experience with shipping, sorry. Got quotes for several, years ago, when I was buying my M3, but ended up getting it locally. For the Z3 (replaced the E46) we also picked it up locally. We sold the E46 locally, met the buyer at the bank and had them get a cashier's check then. Jim On Apr 7, 2005 9:19 AM, Scott King <vw8vgti@hotmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 12:12:36 -0400 From: "Scott King" Subject: Car > shipment > > > Folks, > > I have a potential out of state buyer for my M3 and I was wondering if > anyone could give me some advice regarding commercial transport? > > I have never shipped a vehicle and was wondering if anyone could provide > vendor recommendations or a gut check approximate cost to ship a car from > Cincinnati to Boston? > > Any info would be greatly appreciated. > > Scott King > > ************************************************* Please > help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld > http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering > http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing > http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > *************************************************

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#5. Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes - from Scott M
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Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:01:18 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes While I don't use a pressure bleeder, what I normally do first is drain *most* of the old fluid from the master first using a turkey baster. Then refill the master reservoir with fresh fluid before starting the bleeding. I also like to use the ATE Blue because it is really obvious when you get to the fresh fluid. You should be able to do 1 bleed from 1 can of that stuff, but good to have 2 on hand just in case. Tip - don't use the baster for Thanksgiving dinner next year, get one for shop use only. Then every time you lose the shop one again you can steal your wife's from the kitchen and then get a replacement later. Not that I've ever done that ;-) More than once or twice :-/ Scott on 4/7/05 6:59 PM, Mel Silva at melsilva@mindspring.com wrote: > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:51:13 -0500 > From: "Mel Silva" <melsilva@mindspring.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] bleeding brakes > > Paul, > I would start at the left front to get all the old fluid out of the > reservoir. Once you see new fluid, go to rear pass as you suggest and move > wheel to wheel toward the master cylinder. Don't forget the clutch slave! > With the pressure bleeder there is no pumping of the brakes, but make sure > you a) don't run out of fluid in the pressure tanks and b) have something > to collect the spent fluid in. I use a two liter bottle with a length of > vinyl tubing running between it and the caliper. With the pressure bleeder > you don't have to submerge the collection line in the fluid since you're not > pumping the pedal and you won't get any 'backwash' from the collection > bottle. > > Mel > > -----Original Message----- > From: Paul Smith [mailto:Paul.Smith@ontariosystems.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 8:40 PM > To: E36M3 > Subject: [E36M3] bleeding brakes > > > Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2005 20:37:03 -0500 > From: Paul Smith <Paul.Smith@ontariosystems.com> > Subject: bleeding brakes > > Okay, I have a DE next weekend. I need to change the brake fluid. I have the > pressure bleeder. > Did a search and saw some info, but need to ask. > > So I will > Slowly fill the pressure tank with new fluid > Attach cap (w/15 lbs or so) > Start at rear pass caliper until new fluid comes through bubblle free > Move to others. > > IS there no pumping of the brake pedal? > Any worries about a 98 M3 with traction control? > > Thanks > Paul smith > 98M3/4/5speed > Putnam bound!!! > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#6. 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from Lee Piccione
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:56:07 -0400 From: Lee Piccione <leepic@smart.net> Subject: 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? Gruppe, Anyone know the logic/reason why the 3.0 has 7 qts of oil versus the 6 qts in the 3.2? Thanks, Lee '95 M3 Violet (removing 3.0 for 3.2)

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#7. Re: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from arionatof@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 14:29:27 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? 3.2 only uses 6 qt? I always thought that it was 6.9 qt ... Johnny 98 M3/4 ~97K -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org > Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:56:07 -0400 > From: Lee Piccione <leepic@smart.net> > Subject: 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? > > Gruppe, > > Anyone know the logic/reason why the 3.0 has 7 qts of > oil versus the 6 qts in the 3.2? > > Thanks, > Lee > '95 M3 Violet (removing 3.0 for 3.2) > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#8. RE: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from Jeremy Conners
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Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 10:55:45 -0400 From: "Jeremy Conners" <Jeremy.Conners@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? ETK lists: S50 B30 @ 7.0 l (7.4 qt) S50 B32 @ 5.5 l (5.8 qt) S52 B32 @ 6.5 l (6.9 qt) Is there a difference in the oil paths in the head (or elsewhere) that necessitates extra capacity? Of course I fill my S52 B32 to the full mark +0.5 liters. Jeremy 97 M3 // > Anyone know the logic/reason why the 3.0 has 7 qts of // > oil versus the 6 qts in the 3.2?

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#9. Re: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 08:51:15 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 3.0 v. 3.2 oil capacities??? At 05:56 AM 4/8/2005, Lee Piccione wrote: >Anyone know the logic/reason why the 3.0 has 7 qts of >oil versus the 6 qts in the 3.2? No reason at all, since my 3.2 takes almost 7 quarts to fill to the MAX mark. :-) Jim Bassett

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#10. Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:28:19 -0400 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes I agree but switch between ATE Blue and Gold each time becuase it is much easier to see the change in color. If you do this frequently, in my case 2-3 times a year, the brake fluid doesn't get dirty enough to see the change using the same color. Carey Scott M wrote: >Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2005 23:01:18 -0700 >From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] bleeding brakes > >While I don't use a pressure bleeder, what I normally do first is drain >*most* of the old fluid from the master first using a turkey baster. Then >refill the master reservoir with fresh fluid before starting the bleeding. >I also like to use the ATE Blue because it is really obvious when you get to >the fresh fluid. You should be able to do 1 bleed from 1 can of that stuff, >but good to have 2 on hand just in case. > > > >

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