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#1. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Scott Spangenberg
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 15:22:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Not SPAM, just looking for people who are looking for a good cat-back deal like me. I just bought my car a month ago and the cat-back is near the top of my list for upgrades. I asked around and this unit is supposedly a good one, so I thought I would pass on the info. Not to mention if more people jump on the bandwagon it helps me too :-) I hate SPAM more than most people ... I'm an IT manager. I'll be happy to provide references :-) -Scott Spangenberg __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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#2. [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:48:40 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? Jay, Hello.. When you removed the valve, did you notice a difference? Better? Worse? Thanks Mo -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 06:47:05 -0700 From: "Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve My 97 M3/2 (4/97) had one. I removed it. UUC has a write-up with pics on their web site. Jay
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#3. [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:55:56 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Ted, Hello. Not sure how the AA exhaust compares to the Stromung, but I bought a AA exhaust for my e36 ~2 yrs ago, and love it. Driving around town the car sounds nice without making the annoying loud look at me sounds. When you are on the gas hard, the exhaust makes a very nice rumble. I think it is a very nice improvement from stock. It is also weighs a LOT less than the stock exhaust. Mo 98 M3/4 -------------------- 11 -------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:05:59 -0400 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Anyone know how this compares to the Stromung? I can't decided between the two. ted
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:36:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? Much better and no squishiness or audible hydraulic fluid sounds. Easier to drive too. Chester --- Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> wrote: > Hello.. When you removed the valve, did you notice a difference? Better? > Worse?
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#5. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Jim Powell
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 20:18:27 -0700 From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited No, not exactly. I have 5 of each bulb and the factory has 500 of them. There was such an uproar that it was somehow impossible to get original bulbs in native 9005 and 9006 bases that before releasing the bulbs, I figured I would head off questions "at the pass" by getting the test report ahead of time. And yes, it is illegal to distribute a 9006/9005 based bulb with this output according to the NHTSA gods. So, therefore, I will send them to a dealer in Canada where such laws don't interfere with shipping them inside of the USA. The major point will be that you do NOT have to buy them at all. They are all going to be free for the first 500 pieces. I expect shipping will probably run about $10 to get them from Canada to you. But all-in-all, a pretty small price to pay to avoid being raped by retailers in general. And the shipping money is between you and the Candian retailer, I won't get any of it. Consider it a forum benny from me to all of you since I get so much out of Suzy's list and put so little back these days. Jim -----Original Message----- From: Tom Reynolds [mailto:kjtar@earthlink.net] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:03 PM To: Jim Powell Subject: Re: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited So, to summarize, you have these bulbs stocked in the 9005 and 9006 sizes but are waiting for the beam pattern tests to come back from the factory (who makes these things? That factory?) before you will give a full test report on them. And, if we want to buy these HIR bulbs, we'd have to do it from a source outside the US as NHTSA won't allow them to be sold in the States? Just wanted to make sure I was understanding things right (as that hasn't apparently happened much in recent months...) :( Best, Tom (Reynolds) Sand Springs, OK At 12:46 PM 04/11/2005 -0500, you wrote: >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Jay G
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:08:06 -1000 From: Jay G <jguzman@hawaii.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited that's pretty cool of you jim...thanks! jay <- hoping to be one of the first 500 =) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Powell" <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> They are > all going to be free for the first 500 pieces. I expect shipping will > probably run about $10 to get them from Canada to you. But all-in-all, a > pretty small price to pay to avoid being raped by retailers in general. > And > the shipping money is between you and the Candian retailer, I won't get > any > of it. > > Consider it a forum benny from me to all of you since I get so much out of > Suzy's list and put so little back these days.
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:51:06 -0400 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Thanks Mo! I actually think I'm gonna jump on this buy, I mean almost $150 off list price is a phenominal deal and definetly don't wany anything annoying. Not to mention the weight savings and apparently it's one of the best performing exhausts in this category. Not too shabby. ted On Apr 11, 2005 8:56 PM, Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> wrote: > > Hello. Not sure how the AA exhaust compares to the Stromung, but I bought > a AA exhaust for my e36 ~2 yrs ago, and love it. Driving around town the > car sounds nice without making the annoying loud look at me sounds. When > you are on the gas hard, the exhaust makes a very nice rumble. I think it > is a very nice improvement from stock. It is also weighs a LOT less than > the stock exhaust. >
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Dorffer <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy > From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> > I am in the market for a good cat-back and came across > this group buy on Bimmerforums: > > http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339691&page=1&pp=25 > > This unit retails for $690 and the group already has a > commitment from the vendor for $550 plus shipping for > 15 units. There's a good chance it will be even > cheaper if we can get 20 or 25 people together. > > I'm not affiliated with any of the parties involved, > just looking for a good price on a good cat-back. > Take a look and sign up if you are in the market too! > From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> > > Anyone know how this compares to the Stromung? I can't decided > between the > two. I have some direct experience with the Stromung and the AA. Personally, both had their merits (and their drawbacks). The AA has always had some quality issues, particularly with the tips. I know numerous people on this list that have had issues with them. The Stromung is a nice piece from a manufacturing perspective, great bends in the piping, but there are noises at various rpms (resonance) that is quite annoying and it is fairly loud at lower rpms. Also, the tips on my Stromung tend to corrode quickly continually requiring polishing (the quality of the stainless steel isn't so good IMO and this wasn't a cheap system by any measure). Honestly, the engineering in both of these systems is severely lacking. Compared to Corsa Performance Exhaust, there is absolutely no comparison in build quality or engineering. I have gotten to spend some time with two of the Corsa/UUC Motorwerks E36 M3 exhausts (one prototype and one final production piece), both of them were fantastic in all areas. The best part by far though is their is no unwanted resonance or droning since the exhaust is tuned specifically to the E36 M3 and it is a "straight-thru" system (you can roll a golf ball through it from one end to another). I wish I could say that about my Stromung but not a chance. http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/tse3/RSC_CUTAWAY.jpg ALso, the system is that it is designed to maintain very reasonable sound levels at lower rpms, but can really open up and scream as the rpms increase on acceleration. Check out more information on Corsa here with some sound clips of their other systems, etc.: http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm UUC Motorwerks I believe also has information on their new Corsa designed E36 M3 system: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ Disclaimer: I have gotten to tour Corsa's facility to see first hand how they build and engineer their exhausts, this was very enlightening before even having any direct experience with their systems (other than in a boat once) and I never figured they would ever make any BMW systems. Spending 500 miles in an E36 M3 with a prototype and a final production piece was very convincing. I am a junkie when it comes to touring factories though, I jump at the chance to see manufacturing facilities from the inside, I even love tire manufacturing... :-) Later, Rich
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#9. CDV - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 00:59:31 -0400 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: CDV Thanks for this info, unlike some other useless drivel we got prior to this info, Andy points us to a good explanation to my ?. Too bad another list member didn't stop before he hit the send button and waste BW w/ the obvious while tying in vain to impress us w/ his superb knowledge of the build dates for some E36s instead of trying to be helpful. Thanks, Andy. Evan Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:21:43 -0700 From: "Andy Radin" <fourfa@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve more fuel for the fire: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/check_valve.htm "...an added check valve (BMW calls it a "lock valve") in the clutch hydraulic circuit that is intended to slow the engagement of the clutch as you release the pedal ... A little-known detail about the 1996-1999 M3/MZ3 3.2l (including Euro cars) is that they too have this part. ... M3s with the 3.0l engine do not have this part, nor do any other E36." Can't personally verify or deny this, just remembered seeing this page a while back...
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#10. Re: [E36M3] CDV - from LoweSeaton@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 04:38:54 EDT From: LoweSeaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] CDV In a message dated 4/12/05 12:07:06 AM Central Daylight Time, eevans@planetc.com writes: Thanks for this info, unlike some other useless drivel we got prior to this info, Andy points us to a good explanation to my ?. Too bad another list member didn't stop before he hit the send button and waste BW w/ the obvious while tying in vain to impress us w/ his superb knowledge of the build dates for some E36s instead of trying to be helpful. Oh this is too good! I don't normally get into flame wars but when called drivel .... Hmm - I wonder who this useless E36M3 list member is? I will admit I didn't know for sure the build dates of various E36 models. I had to go to Dale Beuning's _www.unofficialbmw.com_ (http://www.unofficialbmw.com) web site. I just knew there was no 328i or 323i in 1995. I was trying to impress I thought the initial web site given for the clutch delay valve information was incorrect or at least misleading. _http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm_ (http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm) It states "E36 3-Series (1994-1999) 323i, 328i and M3" The later reference to UUC's web site _http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/check_valve.htm_ (http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/html_techtip/techtips/check_valve.htm) states "1996-1999 M3/MZ3 3.2l (including Euro cars) ... <snip> ... M3s with the 3.0l engine do not have this part, nor do any other E36." Those two web sites are about as opposite as it gets. One says every E36 model has the CDV, the other one says only the 3.2L M engine models. I would argue one of them is incorrect. I'll let the more useful list members decide which. As for being helpful, about the only thing I said in my previous useless drivel was I know for a fact my 1995 M3 does NOT have a clutch delay valve. [And an automatic transmission M3 does not have a clutch] I guess this is one more reason to own a '95 M3. <g> Lowell Seaton '95 M3 - no CDV