E36M3 #4237

Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:17:29

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Walter J
#2. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Chester Wong
#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: Extracting a broken tap - from Wayne Miller
#4. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Scott Spangenberg
#5. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Hans Batra
#6. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? - from Rich Dorffer
#7. RE: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Dave DeBuhr
#8. RE: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? - from Robert S. Hatrak II
#9. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Jim Bassett
#10. [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from dhogg

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Walter J
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:59:01 -0400 From: Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Mo Karamat wrote: >When you are on the gas hard, the exhaust makes a very nice rumble. > ....and when tearing down the straights at WOT it shrieks enough to make onlookers think you have a straight pipe. :) You won't be disappointed. -- Walter

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#2. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:06:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited Whoa....Jim, people might actually start thinking that you're a nice guy! =) Chester --- Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> wrote: > The major point will be that you do NOT have to buy them at all. They are > all going to be free for the first 500 pieces. I expect shipping will > probably run about $10 to get them from Canada to you. But all-in-all, a > pretty small price to pay to avoid being raped by retailers in general. And > the shipping money is between you and the Candian retailer, I won't get any > of it. > > Consider it a forum benny from me to all of you since I get so much out of > Suzy's list and put so little back these days. > > Jim

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: Extracting a broken tap - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:30:51 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <m3@waynemiller.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Extracting a broken tap The broken tap story: On the E46M3 there is a V-shaped brace running from just in front of the rear wheels to a point on the rear sub frame right under the diff. I managed to break the tap off in the center hole under the diff. It is an M10 x 1.5 and I was just cleaning up the threads - not actually tapping much. I was using very little pressure and going forwards and back like you are supposed to. I wasn't using any kind of lubricant which was probably my downfall but I had just planned on cleaning out the threads so I didn't expect much of a problem. All of the sudden, the tap just snapped. My guess is that since I was doing this under the car (with it on the lift) I probably was not applying the pressure exactly vertically so the break may have been due to more of a shear loading than the twist loading (which there wasn't much of). I have just been driving the car without the brace for a while and now that it is warmer I am looking to fix it. We'll see how the tap extractor does once it arrives. -Wayne

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#4. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Scott Spangenberg
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:32:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited I am a new member and missed the initial thread on this. Can somebody fill me in? What spec are these bulbs? I would definitely like the chance to upgrade my lights! -Scott --- Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 06:06:58 -0700 (PDT) > From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> > Subject: RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited > > Whoa....Jim, people might actually start thinking > that you're a nice guy! =) > > Chester > > --- Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> wrote: > > The major point will be that you do NOT have to > buy them at all. They are > > all going to be free for the first 500 pieces. I > expect shipping will > > probably run about $10 to get them from Canada to > you. But all-in-all, a > > pretty small price to pay to avoid being raped by > retailers in general. And > > the shipping money is between you and the Candian > retailer, I won't get any > > of it. > > > > Consider it a forum benny from me to all of you > since I get so much out of > > Suzy's list and put so little back these days. > > > > Jim > > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our > sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance > http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Hans Batra
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 12:06:56 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy I tried to find a sound clip of the Corsa on the UUC site but didn't have any luck. Have they not posted it yet, or did I not look hard enough? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Dorffer" <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:56 AM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy > Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 21:53:04 -0700 (PDT) > From: Rich Dorffer <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy > > > From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> > > I am in the market for a good cat-back and came across > > this group buy on Bimmerforums: > > > > http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=339691&page=1&pp=25 > > > > This unit retails for $690 and the group already has a > > commitment from the vendor for $550 plus shipping for > > 15 units. There's a good chance it will be even > > cheaper if we can get 20 or 25 people together. > > > > I'm not affiliated with any of the parties involved, > > just looking for a good price on a good cat-back. > > Take a look and sign up if you are in the market too! > > > > From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> > > > > Anyone know how this compares to the Stromung? I can't decided > > between the > > two. > > I have some direct experience with the Stromung and the AA. Personally, both had their merits > (and their drawbacks). The AA has always had some quality issues, particularly with the tips. I > know numerous people on this list that have had issues with them. The Stromung is a nice piece > from a manufacturing perspective, great bends in the piping, but there are noises at various rpms > (resonance) that is quite annoying and it is fairly loud at lower rpms. Also, the tips on my > Stromung tend to corrode quickly continually requiring polishing (the quality of the stainless > steel isn't so good IMO and this wasn't a cheap system by any measure). > > Honestly, the engineering in both of these systems is severely lacking. Compared to Corsa > Performance Exhaust, there is absolutely no comparison in build quality or engineering. I have > gotten to spend some time with two of the Corsa/UUC Motorwerks E36 M3 exhausts (one prototype and > one final production piece), both of them were fantastic in all areas. The best part by far > though is their is no unwanted resonance or droning since the exhaust is tuned specifically to the > E36 M3 and it is a "straight-thru" system (you can roll a golf ball through it from one end to > another). I wish I could say that about my Stromung but not a chance. > > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/tse3/RSC_CUTAWAY.jpg > > ALso, the system is that it is designed to maintain very reasonable sound levels at lower rpms, > but can really open up and scream as the rpms increase on acceleration. > > Check out more information on Corsa here with some sound clips of their other systems, etc.: > http://www.corsaperf.com/autohome.htm > > UUC Motorwerks I believe also has information on their new Corsa designed E36 M3 system: > http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ > > Disclaimer: I have gotten to tour Corsa's facility to see first hand how they build and engineer > their exhausts, this was very enlightening before even having any direct experience with their > systems (other than in a boat once) and I never figured they would ever make any BMW systems. > Spending 500 miles in an E36 M3 with a prototype and a final production piece was very convincing. > I am a junkie when it comes to touring factories though, I jump at the chance to see > manufacturing facilities from the inside, I even love tire manufacturing... > > :-) > > Later, > > Rich > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? - from Rich Dorffer
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:12:33 -0700 (PDT) From: Rich Dorffer <e36m3digest@ameritech.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? Evan wrote> > Thanks for this info, unlike some other useless drivel we got > prior to this > info, Andy points us to a good explanation to my ?. Too bad > another list > member didn't stop before he hit the send button and waste BW w/ the > obvious while tying in vain to impress us w/ his superb > knowledge of the > build dates for some E36s instead of trying to be helpful. Evan, you really have a lot of f*cking nerve for commenting on Lowell's usefulness (or lack thereof) because he posted about build date and model information and the potential issue with the link that had been provided about the CDV, where his skepticism appeared to be merited (along with an observation about the number of cars you have tried to sell via this list). Let's recap your last few posts: 1 - complained about Lowell 2 - asked about CDV 3 - asked where to buy a E39 540i tranny and tried to sell another car 4 - blathered on about your E39 540i issues 5 - E39 540i 6 speed FS again with a correction 6 - E39 540i 6 speed FS Useless drivel indeed. On the other hand, I find that Lowell provides much more relevant and helpful input to the topic being discussed. Note: I only know Lowell or Evan from this email list and have no affiliation with either. Later, Rich

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from Dave DeBuhr
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:28:19 -0700 From: "Dave DeBuhr" <debuhr@comcast.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy If the Corsa for the E36 is as good as the one I put on my C5 Vette, it is probably about as good as it gets. Very high quality stuff! -----Original Message----- From: Walter J [mailto:m3gtr@adelphia.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 5:07 AM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 07:59:01 -0400 From: Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy Mo Karamat wrote: >When you are on the gas hard, the exhaust makes a very nice rumble. > ....and when tearing down the straights at WOT it shrieks enough to make onlookers think you have a straight pipe. :) You won't be disappointed. -- Walter ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? - from Robert S. Hatrak II
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 09:52:37 -0700 From: "Robert S. Hatrak II" <rob@hatrak.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Clutch Delay Valve - Did you notice a difference without it? Lowell has never been anything but helpful to those on this list and doesn't deserve to be slammed for sharing his truly superb knowledge of the E36 M3. Keep on posting, Lowell. Rob

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#9. RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 10:08:43 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] HIR Bulbs revisited On Tue, April 12, 2005 6:36 am, Scott Spangenberg said: > I am a new member and missed the initial thread on > this. Can somebody fill me in? You can fill yourself in (OK, that just sounds wrong :-)), by checking the list archives at: http://www.bmw-m.net/Digest/ Click on ALL-DIGEST-SEARCH.htm to access the search feature. Happy searching :-) Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP

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#10. [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy - from dhogg
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Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2005 13:16:36 -0400 From: "dhogg" <dhogg@suscom.net> Subject: [E36M3] Bimmerforums AA cat-back group buy I made the mistake of selling my AA exhaust last year. It was a Gen 1 and the tips went bad but AA sent redesigned ones to me for free. The new design (Gen 2 or 3) had no issues whatsoever for 40,000 miles. It does not drone but it's great under WOT. I actually "failed" a pre-autocross straight-line braking test because the inspector wanted to ask me what kind of exhaust I had. "It sounded sooo good," he said. I passed after I disclosed the AA brand. I pulled it off the car because we live in an uptight neighborhood and the housewives were complaining that I was driving too fast and would maim their kids. I now go the same speed (5 mph over the limit) and have no complaints. Pretty high compliment of the AA exhaust, I'd say. Dave Hogg

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