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#1. Re: New Data System - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:26:35 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: New Data System on 4/19/05 8:56 PM, "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> wrote: > Interesting point. Most of the customers that ask about data are > racers. Honestly, I never dealt with the school restriction - forgot > about that. I don't see that this need be a problem. Although DE's aren't "competitive or timed events," in the organizational sense, we don't have a chronometer police. Timing can be a useful training tool at the personal level when used appropriately; drivers already use anything from their watches to electronic devices to this end. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
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#2. Re: E36 oxygen sensor installation - from Neil Maller
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:58:53 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: E36 oxygen sensor installation on 4/20/05 8:26 AM, "Andy Radin" <fourfa@hotmail.com> wrote: >> Has anyone installed the precat oxygen sensors in an E36 M3, 3.2? Any tips >> on where to access them from, or any other tricks? Or if you could point me >> toward the info, that would be great. > Access them from under the car, no need for any special sensor tool, just an > ordinary 24mm wrench. Remove the cover over the fuel rail (driver's side of > the motor) to find the plugs. There's a lot of squeezing your hands around > to unclip the long cable as it snakes around the motor. Minor correction/addition: the size is 22mm or 7/8". A special socket might be needed if the sensors are hard enough to remove to the point where an open-end wrench risks rounding their hex. An O2 sensor socket can be found at any auto parts store for small money. You'll also probably want to remove the X-brace for better access from under the car. > Here's the trick - remove and replace only one at a time, so as not to lose > track of which sensor goes to which plug. Good advice, although fortunately in this case the system is more or less self-policing. The cylinder bank 1-3 sensor is far enough forward that when you snake its wire through the clips at the back of the head its connector ends up in the proper position for the rear connector under the fuel rail cover. Conversely the 4-6 sensor's wire naturally ends up at the forward connector. Note that this is counter-intuitive: the forward O2 sensor engine harness connector is for the rear bank of cylinders and vice-versa. I found this out the hard way after installing the Jet-Hot shorty headers from Bimmerworld last year. Now the sensors are quite close together, so you lose the self-policing feature. I assumed - yeah, yeah, I know! - that the forward connector was for the forward cylinder bank. Bzzzzt: wrong! Hey, it's always freakin' something... Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
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#3. Re: Data Acquisition - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 09:07:44 -0500 From: Sue Kraft <suekraft@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: Data Acquisition Posting for Marc Plante.... marc.plante@nextel.com Another interesting data acquisition tool (though it needs a device to store the telemetry) is the Extreme Geez GCube. Whole package sells for $395, including analytical software, plus you need a data storage device to put in the car. A used palm pilot works, and they're prolly available for $50 on Ebay. The site offers a lot of information. Ron Katona (R.I.P.) used one to refine his autocrossing, and it provided a lot of very good data. I think it's capable of 1/2 hour sessions, depending on sampling frequency, so you can use it at DEs. http://www.extremegeez.com/GEEZ.html Regarding using tools like this at a DE...they're not about timing, These tools instrument your inputs and make sure that they are smooth and optimal. Yes they can point out where you can find more speed. They are also used to show how you can get your car to perform better doing less work. I usually tell my students that the goal of a DE is to get a car around the track making it do the least amount of work. The headroom you create by optimizing can either be used as a safety buffer, or it can be used to go faster, depending on your preference (How's that for politically correct). Might be an interesting Group buy. It's been a while since we threw our buying power at anything. Marc Plante Vienna, VA 1997 E36 M3/4, 62k
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#4. [E36M3] Re: New Data System - from Tom Melton
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:10:03 -0400 From: "Tom Melton" <Tom_Melton@emoryhealthcare.org> Subject: [E36M3] Re: New Data System >>> Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> 4/20/2005 9:36:25 AM >>> I don't see that this need be a problem. Although DE's aren't "competitive or timed events," in the organizational sense, we don't have a chronometer police. Timing can be a useful training tool at the personal level when used appropriately; drivers already use anything from their watches to electronic devices to this end. This device would not be a problem if used discretely, IE - we don't know about it. We definately frown on timing devices at our events (Peachtree Chapter BMW CCA). We have to enforce the rules to the best we can to keep the event sanctioned. If we see someone with a stopwatch timing a car or cars, we explain to them that it is not allowed, and request them to stop. If we catch the same person again, we could expel them or confiscate the stopwatch. Yes, I know it happens, and yes, we cannot see everywhere, but we do what we can. Tom Melton Chief Instructor Peachtree Chapter BMW CCA
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#5. Lifts? - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:28:17 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@yahoo.com> Subject: Lifts? SWMBO *suggested* that I get a lift for the garage (whoopie!) But I have to clean the garage out (bummer..) I do have a 12' ceiling if I get the garage door modified to run along the ceiling and move the opener (whoopie!) But I will have to take down the loft I built 30 years ago (bummer) Anyone have any hints on one for less than $2,000? Twin post design, preferably with hydraulic over electric (my air-compressor is not up to lifting a car..) Used is fine also. Oh - also - used tool cabinets. If I gotta clean the place up I might as well have someplace to put the crap that's accumulated for 30 years. Sears level is fine, I'm not doing this for a living. _______D_o_n__________S_p_r_i_n_g__L_a_k_e__H_t_s____________©1946________ Don Eilenberger, Spring Lk Hts, NJ - http://www.njsbmwr.org/ '98 M3c/5, '03 525iT, '87 K75S
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#6. RE: [E36M3] Re: Data Acquisition - from Sinha, Vikas
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 10:35:01 -0400 From: "Sinha, Vikas" <Vikas.Sinha@aam.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Data Acquisition Long time lurker, first time poster. The Extreme Geez has been about halfway down on my list of "I gotta get one of those at some point" for a few years now. But since I got my M3 a year ago (via an E28 535is and an Audi A4), I've been more and more interested in data acquisition, prompted mostly by the fact that the car is so much faster than me that I just KNOW it's shaking its head at me lovingly and saying, "Don't worry, old buddy, we'll get you straightened out..." I guess that's a long and rambling way of saying: I'd be interested in a group buy. :) Regards, Vik Sinha Ann Arbor, MI 97 M3/4 > Posting for Marc Plante.... > marc.plante@nextel.com > > Another interesting data acquisition tool (though it needs a > device to store the telemetry) is the Extreme Geez GCube. > Whole package sells for $395, including analytical software, > plus you need a data storage device to put in the car. A > used palm pilot works, and they're prolly available for $50 on Ebay. [...] > Might be an interesting Group buy. It's been a while since > we threw our buying power at anything. ********************************************************************** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. www.mimesweeper.com **********************************************************************
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#7. Re: Clutch Master Cylinder, CDV, etc. - from david kroth
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:16:41 -0700 (PDT) From: david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Clutch Master Cylinder, CDV, etc. Don wrote: > It feels very nice without the CDV (which was the > goal > of the whole project, which evolved into a > disaster..) So Don, how did remvoing the CDV result in a blown clutch master cylinder? David Kroth david_kroth@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/
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#8. E46M3 Competition Pkg 19"wheels and tires for sale - from Will Turner
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:32:27 -0400 From: "Will Turner" <willt@turnermotorsport.com> Subject: E46M3 Competition Pkg 19"wheels and tires for sale I have a set of M3 Competition package "take-offs" wheels and tires for sale The tires are Michelin Sport's 225 Front and 255 Rears, They have less than 35 miles on them . The wheels / tires are perfect. $2699 for the "set" + shipping -Will **2004 WORLD CHALLENGE CHAMPIONS** **2003 WORLD CHALLENGE CHAMPIONS** Will Turner President, Turner Motorsport Inc 207 Elm St Amesbury, Ma 01913 978-388-7769 x11 978-388-4202 (fax) www.turnermotorsport.com www.tmsracing.com www.allshocks.com
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Re: Clutch Master Cylinder, CDV, etc. - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:42:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: Clutch Master Cylinder, CDV, etc. It was basically the project from hell. The gutting of the CDV was pretty straight forward. At the same time, Don wanted to replace the clutch hose (which I forgot to bill him for..hahaha) but that wasn't a problem. Then when it came time to bleed, since Mo is a bit younger than Don, I thought it would be easier for him to jump into the car while it was on a lift. Since we ran into an issue a long time ago on Wayne's car where he pushed hard on the clutch pedal and the pin that secures the master cylinder pushrod eyelet snapped, I told Mo to go real easy. On the E46, the pin that goes through the clutch pedal is plastic. On the E36, it's metal. Anyway, Mo claims he went easy but being on the bottom of the car watching the hose pressurize real quickly, I don't think he was. Anyway, with the hydraulics bled, I proceeded to put the slave cylinder back in being mindful to be careful and not drop the pin into the tranny. I got it on, then attempted to thread on a nut but it dropped. I pulled the slave just a bit to see if I could get the nut but then I heard this clunk and my heart sank. Not a problem...I've dropped a tranny before. It didn't help that we loss a helper since Mo only looks out for Mo and when he learned that we would most likely not get around to doing his car, he took off. THANKS! But we had the tranny off in 1 hour 20 minutes. Also discovered that the person who did the clutch job a few weeks ago really liked grease...greased EVERYTHING! GO FREEDMAN TIRE SERVICE! So after getting the tranny back on and attaching the slave cylinder, I wandered to the cabin of the car to see if we had clutch pedal action. Tis when I saw two broken halves of an eyelet. Another heart sinking moment.... Some epoxy and zip ties and another hour detour and we had completed Don's car. Sorry Don....it really should have taken 20 minutes. Ugh. Mo, you're no longer allowed to ask me for help. You might be able to get away with asking Wayne, but he's just too nice to say no. How is it that a guy who drops engines and rebuilds cars needs hand holding when it comes to installing pulleys, removing a CDV, etc? Don't give me the bullsh*t about being afraid to work on a E36s. Actions speak louder than words and I still remember the time I hardwired your V1 and did a pretty bang up job before we broke for lunch. Lunch comes around and no offer to buy me lunch? Wow. Last time I crawl around in your car. Chester --- david kroth <david_kroth@yahoo.com> wrote: > > It feels very nice without the CDV (which was the > > goal > > of the whole project, which evolved into a > > disaster..) > > So Don, how did remvoing the CDV result in a blown > clutch master cylinder?
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#10. Re: [E36M3] E46M3 Competition Pkg 19"wheels and tires for sale - from Steven Tom
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Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 08:55:44 -0700 From: Steven Tom <stom@qualcomm.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] E46M3 Competition Pkg 19"wheels and tires for sale Hi Will, Can you provide a little insight to using a M3 w/competition package as opposed to just modifying a regular M3. Are there extra gusset supports, better welding, less acoustic absorbing material ect. I don't believe that it has the carbon fiber roof of the CSL does it? Thanks, steve At 08:36 AM 4/20/2005, Will Turner wrote: >Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:32:27 -0400 >From: "Will Turner" <willt@turnermotorsport.com> >Subject: E46M3 Competition Pkg 19"wheels and tires for sale > > >I have a set of M3 Competition package "take-offs" wheels and tires >for sale > >The tires are Michelin Sport's 225 Front and 255 Rears, They have less >than 35 miles on them . The wheels / tires are perfect. > >$2699 for the "set" + shipping > >-Will > >**2004 WORLD CHALLENGE CHAMPIONS** >**2003 WORLD CHALLENGE CHAMPIONS** > >Will Turner >President, Turner Motorsport Inc >207 Elm St >Amesbury, Ma 01913 >978-388-7769 x11 >978-388-4202 (fax) >www.turnermotorsport.com >www.tmsracing.com >www.allshocks.com > > > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >*************************************************