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#1. Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing - from Scott Spangenberg
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing Here's an old trick for finding a vacuum leak: get a can of WD40 and start spraying around all the intake components. When you find the leak, the rpms will dip noticibly because the oil has the effect of temporarily plugging the leak. I have used this a lot in the past, but mostly on old British cars. It's a good way to prove that your throttle shaft bushings are shot on an SU carb! -Scott Spangenberg --- Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> wrote: > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 15:25:42 -0700 (PDT) > From: Doug Wirth <doug_wirth@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues > > Sounds like a Vacuum leak. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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#2. RE: [E36M3] Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? - from Sinha, Vikas
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:07:07 -0400 From: "Sinha, Vikas" <Vikas.Sinha@aam.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? I run HPS pads on the street. I see lots of stop and go traffic in Detroit, and I have not seen a pad deposit issue. It's probably a little cooler here than in Houston (got two inches of snow last weekend :/ ), so I don't know if my data point is relevant, but here it is anyway. Vik Sinha Ann Arbor, MI 97 M3/4 On Tue, April 26, 2005 6:06 pm, Mel Silva said: > It's after these stop and go driving conditions > that I get a brake vibration. I'm almost positive > that it is pad material build up because one good > stop with some heat being put into the pads > seems to clean it right up (meaning the vibration > goes away). AAM -- Scanned Symantec Mail Security ***AAM IT Security aamntpub1***
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? - from Raza Uddin
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:12:20 -0700 From: Raza Uddin <raza.uddin@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? On 4/27/05, Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > After adding that, don't expect any help from the CA/SF Bay Area > contingent <g>. I was happy to pay "only" $2.83 for premium (91) > yesterday. Grrr. I thought I was "stealing" 91 for $2.89 at a little secluded Chevron in Orinda. As for HPS pads, I have heard mixed reviews them. I think there was a discussion on the Roadfly forums that some people were having issues with the pad material coming off the backing plate when they were still at 50% thickness. They were strictly street driven and Hawk wouldn't replace them. He also tried going through Turner on his behalf and Hawk still refused. For a strictly street pad, I've been pretty happy with the Axxis Ultimates. I haven't yet had a chance to get them on track (and probably won't use them unless it is raining- the PF97s are for that), but I think they'll hold up much better than the stock Jurids. I tired to stay away from them initially as my brother had "issues" with them after track days, but considering he is running a ~3600lb (with driver)Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo pushing around 500hp and was still on his stock brakes, I think the car might have been too much for the pad. He runs them as his street pad with his StopTech and is happy with them also. Hope this helps. Drive Safely, Raza
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#4. Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing - from Walter J
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:23:29 -0400 From: Walter J <m3gtr@adelphia.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing Scott Spangenberg wrote: >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 08:58:09 -0700 (PDT) >From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing > >Here's an old trick for finding a vacuum leak: get a >can of WD40 and start spraying around all the intake >components. When you find the leak, the rpms will dip >noticibly because the oil has the effect of >temporarily plugging the leak. I have used this a lot >in the past, but mostly on old British cars. It's a >good way to prove that your throttle shaft bushings >are shot on an SU carb! > > A can of starter fluid works better for this and evaporates so your engine does not become a big shiny dust magnet.
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#5. Re: Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? - from Dat Quach (quachd)
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 09:28:06 -0700 From: "Dat Quach (quachd)" <quachd@cisco.com> Subject: Re: Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? >> Mel >> >> PS> Gas prices in Houston -->(snicker) 93 octane for $2.059/gal I just filled up the GS and it was $2.27/gal here in Austin! Dat
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:31:02 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Hawk Brake Pads - HPS experience? I have used Hawk HPS on my M3 on the street for the past year and have done 3 or 4 D/Es at them at Road America and Blackhawk Farms. I like them a lot for the street, they are a moderate/high dusting pad but the dust washes off with a little wheel cleaner even after getting wet. On the track I have experienced some fade after 15-20 minute sessions at Road America, however, that track has a couple of long straights and is is easy to manage the temperature at DE speeds and get the performance back with good brake technique. I just tried HT-10s for the first time at Road America with otherwise almost stock brakes (Euro floating rotors, SS brakelines, ATE fluid) and OH MY GOD, they are incredible. Incredible stopping power, very easy to modulate with good initial bite and no signs of fade at all. They dusted badly at first but after I had broken them in per the instructions in the box the dusting was minimal and washed off easily with a pressure washer. So I now have a new favorite track pad, the HT-10s. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL
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#7. Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak - from Christopher Bauer
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:46:32 -0500 From: Christopher Bauer <chrisbauer@vzavenue.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing you can also do it with carb cleaner, and the rpm's will shoot up Chris 97M3 ---- Original message ---- >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 11:06:16 -0500 >From: Scott Spangenberg <cpmustang2001@yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] M50 Manifold Issues ... leak testing > >Here's an old trick for finding a vacuum leak: get a >can of WD40 and start spraying around all the intake >components. When you find the leak, the rpms will dip >noticibly because the oil has the effect of >temporarily plugging the leak.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:04:22 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:46 AM, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com wrote: >> Hawk HP Plus and Porterfield R4S seem like decent choices. Any >> opinions? > > I would agree, those are fine probably even into the intermediate > levels. The R4Ss suck. Really, they do. They WILL overheat and fade on the track. They WILL squeal like a garbage truck. You think they won't, and they will lull you into a false sense of security for the first thousand or two miles, but they will eventually start howling like a city bus on a crack high. They WILL dust like a mofo until your front wheels are covered in grey dust instead of black. Really. Find something else. Trust me on this one. - Mark, been there done that on multiple cars ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#9. Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) - from Greg Cagle
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:13:37 -0700 From: Greg Cagle <gregc@gregcagle.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) I don't run my car on the track, but I had the R4S pads on my car for street use for about a year. I was able to get them not to squeal, but only with LIBERAL application of anti-squeal goo, and I had to refresh it a couple of times as the squeal kept coming back. They don't dust as much as the Pagids IMHO but not a whole lot less, and there really wasn't any improvement as far as performance over the stock pads in my estimation. I've got Pagids now, which don't squeal 8^). - Greg Mark Dadgar wrote: > The R4Ss suck. Really, they do. > > They WILL overheat and fade on the track. > > They WILL squeal like a garbage truck. You think they won't, and they > will lull you into a false sense of security for the first thousand or > two miles, but they will eventually start howling like a city bus on a > crack high. > > They WILL dust like a mofo until your front wheels are covered in grey > dust instead of black. > > Really. Find something else. Trust me on this one. > > - Mark, been there done that on multiple cars > ----- > mark@pdc-racing.net > > Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: > http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > > > > -- Greg Cagle gregc at gregcagle dot com
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#10. Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) - from Jason Knight
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:17:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) Don't sugarcoat it Mark. Tell us how you really feel. Jason --- Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> wrote: > Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:04:22 -0700 > From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? > (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) > > > The R4Ss suck. Really, they do. > > They WILL overheat and fade on the track. > > They WILL squeal like a garbage truck. You think > they won't, and they > will lull you into a false sense of security for the > first thousand or > two miles, but they will eventually start howling > like a city bus on a > crack high. > > They WILL dust like a mofo until your front wheels > are covered in grey > dust instead of black. > > Really. Find something else. Trust me on this one. > > - Mark, been there done that on multiple cars
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#11. Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:21:12 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) On Apr 27, 2005, at 10:16 AM, Greg Cagle wrote: > I don't run my car on the track, but I had the R4S pads on my car for > street use for about a year. I was able to get them not to squeal, > but only with LIBERAL application of anti-squeal goo, and I had to > refresh it a couple of times as the squeal kept coming back. I tried anti-squeal goop, beveling the pads, felt backing, anti-seize, sacrifices of small barnyard animals, etc etc. It always came back. They suck. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar
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#12. Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:21:46 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) Weird .. I run R4S's on 4 different cars -- Alfa, BMW, Jag and Mazda. I love them for the _street_ because: i) They don't squeal. Ever. ii) They don't wear rotors at all (over 100,000 miles with these pads). ii) Their dust is a light _brown_ color, kinda rust-colored, and is non-corrosive and washes off easily. Trivially, in fact. iv) They work fine as a street pad, with panic stops, etc. Under no circumstances should you use them on the track, though. No good for track use. Oh well, YMMV. ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com >Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2005 10:04:22 -0700 >From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: Track pad experience??? (cobalt -> hawk HT-14) > >On Apr 27, 2005, at 5:46 AM, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com wrote: >>>Hawk HP Plus and Porterfield R4S seem like decent choices. Any opinions? >> >>I would agree, those are fine probably even into the intermediate levels. > >The R4Ss suck. Really, they do. > >They WILL overheat and fade on the track. > >They WILL squeal like a garbage truck. You think they won't, and >they will lull you into a false sense of security for the first >thousand or two miles, but they will eventually start howling like a >city bus on a crack high. > >They WILL dust like a mofo until your front wheels are covered in >grey dust instead of black. > >Really. Find something else. Trust me on this one. > >- Mark, been there done that on multiple cars >----- >mark@pdc-racing.net > >Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: >http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar > --