E36M3 #4303

Thursday, May 19, 2005 18:02:47

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: [E36M3] Pressure Plate troubles- again - from Chester Wong
#2. M3 Diet - from twisty M3
#3. RE:Considering coming back into the fold - from Michael, Dave
#4. Re: [E36M3] Pressure Plate troubles- again - from David Ngo
#5. OT - Garage Sizes, Home Car Lifts - from Jonathan Evans
#6. Lower control arm bushings - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
#7. Considering coming back into the fold - from Mo Karamat
#8. Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold - from Mark Dadgar
#9. Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold - from Scott McClung
#10. Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold - from Tom Reynolds

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Pressure Plate troubles- again - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:31:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pressure Plate troubles- again --- Jake Leverett <jake.leverett@gtri.gatech.edu> wrote: > The dealer told me the pressure plate was guaranteed for two(?, at least > one year for sure) years when I purchased the new pressure > plate. The pressure plate is still under warranty so getting a new > pressure plate should not be a problem. However I do not want to be > constantly pulling the transmission every time I hit the rev limiter. The > car has a lightened flywheel, a spring loaded clutch disc since the > lightened flywheel did away with the spring loaded dual mass flywheel, a > 3.46:1 differential, and I have always high revving four cylinder > engine,... so I find it very easy to hit the rev limiter while doing > spirited driving. Is anyone else in the group experiencing these type of > clutch related problems? If yes, what has been done to correct the problem? You're not really giving a complete picture of your setup. Which LTW flywheel? Which aftermarket sprung center clutch disc? Which specific pressure plate (E36M3 stock or some other car)? Chester

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#2. M3 Diet - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 09:39:19 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: M3 Diet So, the idea of more power is always appealing. Taking a note from Colin Chapman, however, the idea of shedding some pounds sounds fun too, as well as a bit more affordable... I think. ;) I already take the spare out for track days, and have a significantly lighter than stock exhaust, but that's all weight off the rear. I'm planning on changing out my powered vader seats for, probably, a racing seat for me and "street racer" seat for the passenger to maintain access to the rear for tires and whatnot (since passengers are rare in my car, aside from the signifcant other). I figure that could save me close to 100ish pounds, which isn't too shabby. Any other recommendations? I know the A/C probably ads a good 50 pounds, but it's a 50 lbs I REALLY appreciate when heading to our many desert tracks in CA in the middle of summer, so that's probably not going anywhere. A lightweight hood sounds appealing, but I don't want to have the street racer look either, so I'm unsure of that. Let me know your suggestions on where the best places to "add" lightness are, and don't say the driver. ;) I'm sure some sound deadening material could come out, but I'm also not quite ready to gut the interior. Thanks, Jonathan L.

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#3. RE:Considering coming back into the fold - from Michael, Dave
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 13:07:06 -0400 From: "Michael, Dave" <Dave_Michael@maxtor.com> Subject: RE:Considering coming back into the fold Scott, I had the same requirement for fold down rear seats in my m3/4 (skis, not bikes), and found that very few had been ordered with them (at least that was the case when I was looking). Then I found out that ALL Canadian cars had both fold down read seats AND heated front seats. So I found and imported a Canadian car. It is not difficult, but is time consuming. You need a letter from BMW stating that the car meets all applicable US standards. They supplied that, with the stipulation that the instrument panel is swapped out. I did that and in addition had the mileage recalibrated to be correct instead of getting the door jamb sticker ( that's what takes a long time). With two kids, I find that a 4 door is a must...... Good luck Dave

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Pressure Plate troubles- again - from David Ngo
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 10:44:07 -0700 (PDT) From: David Ngo <rudngo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Pressure Plate troubles- again I have a BTG lightweight flywheel and pressure plate setup with a 3.46 and have not had any issues with over 200 autox runs since the install. I've definitely accidentally run into the rev limiter a few times, too. Dave --- Jake Leverett <jake.leverett@gtri.gatech.edu> wrote: > Is anyone else in the group > experiencing these type of > clutch related problems? If yes, what has been done > to correct the problem? > > TIA, Jake

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#5. OT - Garage Sizes, Home Car Lifts - from Jonathan Evans
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:09:15 -0400 From: "Jonathan Evans" <jonathanevans@hotmail.com> Subject: OT - Garage Sizes, Home Car Lifts Looking at floorplans of houses made me realize that I'm not sure what my minimum size requirements are for a garage to do some shadetree mechanical work on the M3. For the past 3 cars and 6 years, my workspace to this point has been a piece of cardboard under the car in a gravel driveway. I'm ready for an upgrade. I've been reading the Griot's Garage catalog for years dreaming... So I'd like to get by with a 2 car garage, but they seem to come in varying widths and lengths. 21' X18' seems small, but would wider be better than longer? I'm probably not in the market for a 3 car garage in my area, but would like some room to work while 2 cars are parked in there. Do I need a 2.5 car garage? Is there anything to think of now if I have a house built to my specs? Special lighting or power requirements? Built in closests for air compressors? And the plan is to actually USE the garage to park two commuter cars in everyday. I can hear you laughing, I know. (The CSP Miata track toy will sit in the rain under a tarp for now, lurking ready to jump in and dissamble itself one weekend and sit for a year.) Could anyone recommend some home lifts that don't break the bank? I've seen the scissor type that raises the car maybe 4 feet, and the other that raised it almost 6 feet. The latter was easily moveable while the first was more a permanent installation. So, please share what setups work for you guys/gals or any advice you may have for a garage newbie. Hmm, any good garage books out there? Thanks -Jonathan Evans 95 M3 93 Miata CSP

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#6. Lower control arm bushings - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 12:28:00 -0600 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: Lower control arm bushings I'm in the the process of replacing the bushings on my '97. I decided to go with the offset bushings. Since the ones that came in the car have the hole in the center, I have no idea in what orientation the new offset bushing should be installed. Does anyone have a picture or can expalin exactly how to instaal the bushing? TIA, Graeme

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#7. Considering coming back into the fold - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:41:56 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: Considering coming back into the fold Scott, Coup Vs. Sedan... Other than liking the looks of the coup, the sedan is much more functional.. In my opinion... 1. Easier to put people / kids in the back seat. 2. Fold down rear seats to make stuff easier to carry. 3. From what I have heard the sedan is slightly stiffer than the coup (B pillar) 4. From a business perspective, it may look more professional to have a sedan Vs. a coup. I happened to like the looks of the sedan. The e36 may not be the fastest car out there anymore, but we all know it is a very well balanced car. Good luck in your decesion. Mo -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:12:13 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Considering coming back into the fold

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 14:55:27 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold On May 19, 2005, at 2:52 PM, Mo Karamat wrote: > 3. From what I have heard the sedan is slightly stiffer than the > coup (B > pillar) I keep seeing this and it may well be true, but it ain't 'cause the sedan has a B-pillar since the coupe has one, too. - Mark, car poet to the stars ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold I think honestly it may come down to what car I end up finding. I cannot see using even a 4-door E36 as a business car, if I have more than 1 person riding with me for the day the M3 will stay home - I know that one from experience. Mainly I need the back seat so I don't have to drive the big SUV every time the kids are with me.... Scott Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> wrote: Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:41:56 -0400 From: Mo Karamat Subject: Considering coming back into the fold Scott, Coup Vs. Sedan... Other than liking the looks of the coup, the sedan is much more functional.. In my opinion... 1. Easier to put people / kids in the back seat. 2. Fold down rear seats to make stuff easier to carry. 3. From what I have heard the sedan is slightly stiffer than the coup (B pillar) 4. From a business perspective, it may look more professional to have a sedan Vs. a coup. I happened to like the looks of the sedan. The e36 may not be the fastest car out there anymore, but we all know it is a very well balanced car. Good luck in your decesion. Mo -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:12:13 -0700 From: Scott M Subject: Considering coming back into the fold ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold - from Tom Reynolds
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Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 18:01:30 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold Well, the best way would be for your company to provide a company car. Can you take off business mileage on your taxes if you use your personal car? Or does your company reimburse you for gas money? If you could get a company car, you wouldn't have to worry about this situation at all. Don't know your situation, of course, or whether it would be worth it to talk to them about it. Best, Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 05:21 PM 05/19/2005 -0500, Scott McClung wrote: > >Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 15:12:10 -0700 (PDT) >From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] Considering coming back into the fold > >I think honestly it may come down to what car I end up finding. I cannot see using even a 4-door E36 as a business car, if I have more than 1 person riding with me for the day the M3 will stay home - I know that one from experience. Mainly I need the back seat so I don't have to drive the big SUV every time the kids are with me.... > >Scott > >Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> wrote: >Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 17:41:56 -0400 >From: Mo Karamat >Subject: Considering coming back into the fold > >Scott, > >Coup Vs. Sedan... Other than liking the looks of the coup, the sedan is >much more functional.. > >In my opinion... >1. Easier to put people / kids in the back seat. >2. Fold down rear seats to make stuff easier to carry. >3. From what I have heard the sedan is slightly stiffer than the coup (B >pillar) >4. From a business perspective, it may look more professional to have a >sedan Vs. a coup. > >I happened to like the looks of the sedan. The e36 may not be the fastest >car out there anymore, but we all know it is a very well balanced car. > >Good luck in your decesion. >Mo > > >-------------------- 3 -------------------- >Date: Thu, 19 May 2005 00:12:13 -0700 >From: Scott M >Subject: Considering coming back into the fold > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 05/09/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.11.7 - Release Date: 05/09/2005

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