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#1. Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? - from debuhr@comcast.net
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:17:27 +0000 From: debuhr@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? Scott, Since you already have a full tilt 500hp C4 race car, and are looking for a daily driver with reliability, great handling and power, I think you should look at an E46 M3. Bone stock, they are C5 quick and the handling is close to an E36 M3. An E36 may handle a little better, but the E46 M3 is pretty damned spectacular in the corners too. And since this will be a street only car, who cares. The handling of a stock E46 M3, like your ZO6, would be more than fun enough to handle any street situation. If you don't mind a little less reliability, you already know you will be happy in an E36, but these cars are getting a little long in the tooth. There are a some low milage cream puffs out there though. And the E36 is a piece of cake to work on... Dave 98 M3/4 00 C5 Hardtop 94 Z28 02 Burb > Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:31:16 -0700 > From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? > > At 12:31 AM 5/26/2005 -0500, Scott M wrote: > >Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:25:52 -0700 > >From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> > >Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? > > > >Good input. I would tend to think the stock suspension would probably do > >the trick for me. I was pretty happy with the stock set-up in the E36 M3 I > >had as well. > > I raced an E46 M3 nationally in SCCA Solo II A-Stock in 2003. I was very > impressed with this car as it did not feel as heavy as I thought it > would. Great power, handling, and very solid. Not an E30 M3 or an E36 M3, > but a better daily driver than either one of those. I would have one as a > daily driver if I didn't have too many cars already (at least that is what > my wife tells me :-). > > Rex > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#2. Re: Aux Fan Blade Replacement - from Spencer Fong
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:43:42 +0000 From: sk99m3@comcast.net (Spencer Fong) Subject: Re: Aux Fan Blade Replacement I purchased a replacement fan for my '99 from Zygmunt. It was made by Hella and I think I paid around $200. Their search engine only shows a VDO unit for $325. I can get you a part number when I get home or you can call them and see if the Hella is still available.
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#3. do ragtops get fold down rear seats? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 10:53:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: do ragtops get fold down rear seats? like the coupes? Scott
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#4. Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 11:12:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? I have now ruled out the E46 330 pp. I need an M. And I am not too sure about having $40K tied up into a car either. I have reservations about that anyway, and also some concerns about the engine reliability of the E46 and the high cost of repairs once out of warrantee. E36 may be more work since it is getting older, but repair costs are lower and mostly can do the work myself. The other thing I am thinking is I am always happier about a car when I built it to suit my tastes, so if I get an E36 it leaves many options open for mods - wheels, suspension, engine, stereo, etc. Which would be a lot more fun for me. I also keep going back to the added convenience of 4 doors too - at least then it "looks" like a business car and is not as austentacous as a E46 M3 would be - kind of flys under the radar a bit more - which is good with cops, clients, co-workers, internal execs etc. Plus 4 doors would make us more likely to use it for weekend jaunts - the 2 door thing might end up annoying my wife with the result being driving the Mazda or big SUV a bunch more... I found the car I was looking for - Estoril Blue / gray 4-door with 48K single owner miles - 97. It was listed on Autotrader for a couple days but is already sold. St. Louis. I have already resigned myself to looking nationally and it may take a really long time to find the car I am looking for, but they are out there. The one in Roundel in TX with 27K on it sold too :-( Missed out on that one too. If I sell the Z06 and don't find one w/in 1 month I may pick something up as a temporary "fun car" until I find the right M3/4. That way I won't be tempted to grab the wrong car and end up with something I am not as happy with in the long run.... Scott debuhr@comcast.net wrote: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:17:27 +0000 From: debuhr@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? Scott, Since you already have a full tilt 500hp C4 race car, and are looking for a daily driver with reliability, great handling and power, I think you should look at an E46 M3. Bone stock, they are C5 quick and the handling is close to an E36 M3. An E36 may handle a little better, but the E46 M3 is pretty damned spectacular in the corners too. And since this will be a street only car, who cares. The handling of a stock E46 M3, like your ZO6, would be more than fun enough to handle any street situation. If you don't mind a little less reliability, you already know you will be happy in an E36, but these cars are getting a little long in the tooth. There are a some low milage cream puffs out there though. And the E36 is a piece of cake to work on... Dave 98 M3/4 00 C5 Hardtop 94 Z28 02 Burb > Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:31:16 -0700 > From: Rex Tener > Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? > > At 12:31 AM 5/26/2005 -0500, Scott M wrote: > >Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:25:52 -0700 > >From: Scott M > >Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? > > > >Good input. I would tend to think the stock suspension would probably do > >the trick for me. I was pretty happy with the stock set-up in the E36 M3 I > >had as well. > > I raced an E46 M3 nationally in SCCA Solo II A-Stock in 2003. I was very > impressed with this car as it did not feel as heavy as I thought it > would. Great power, handling, and very solid. Not an E30 M3 or an E36 M3, > but a better daily driver than either one of those. I would have one as a > daily driver if I didn't have too many cars already (at least that is what > my wife tells me :-). > > Rex > > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#5. Re: Aux Fan Blade Replacement - from Hans Batra
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 14:24:30 -0400 From: "Hans Batra" <hansbatra@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Aux Fan Blade Replacement Hella & VDO make fans? I learned something new. ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Spencer Fong" <sk99m3@comcast.net> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 1:51 PM > Subject: [E36M3] Re: Aux Fan Blade Replacement > > > > Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 17:43:42 +0000 > > From: sk99m3@comcast.net (Spencer Fong) > > Subject: Re: Aux Fan Blade Replacement > > > > I purchased a replacement fan for my '99 from Zygmunt. It was made by > Hella and I think I paid around $200. Their search engine only shows a VDO > unit for $325. I can get you a part number when I get home or you can call > them and see if the Hella is still available. > > > > > > > > > > ************************************************* > > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > > ************************************************* > > > > >
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#6. 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 - from admranger
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:20:43 -0700 From: "admranger" <admranger@earthlink.net> Subject: 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 Scott, All three of these cars sit in my garage, albeit one is a race car (but I've owned and driven the stock version). If you want back seat passengers other than small children to be comfortable, get the 330i ZHP. The E46M3's power and LSD are awesome, but the 330i is much more tossable, has a better sounding exhaust, a significantly better feeling shifter (best one BMW has ever made in my opinion - rivals the excellent aftermarket ones like Rogue and UUC), and the alcantara steering wheel is wonderful (for me). There have been some issues with the 330i ZHP having a rough idle (I've had this issue). We've had the E46 M3's trans replaced under warranty for exceptionally rough shifting. E36M3 is an oldie but a goodie and warrants considerable thought given the way prices have dropped. Biggest plus for E36M3 and largest minus for all E46's is that the E46's don't have a list that is even 1percent as good as this list. Hope that helps. Kirk Lachman Sin City Chapter '95 M3 #21 I-stock '02 M3 '03 330i ZHP
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#7. Spark Plug Torque Specs - from twisty M3
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:35:07 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: Spark Plug Torque Specs Sorry to bother with something so simple, but does anyone have the torque specs hand for the spark plugs? It's a 3.2L, but I'd assume the same for either motor. Thanks, Jonathan L.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Spark Plug Torque Specs - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 12:45:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spark Plug Torque Specs On Thu, May 26, 2005 12:41 pm, twisty M3 said: > Sorry to bother with something so simple, but does anyone have the torque > specs hand for the spark plugs? It's a 3.2L, but I'd assume the same for > either motor. I wanna say 18 lb-ft, so I will. :-) Jim Bassett
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#9. Re: [E36M3] Spark Plug Torque Specs - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 15:53:35 -0400 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Spark Plug Torque Specs According to this article <http://www.pelicanparts.com/bmw/techarticles/E36-Spark-Plugs/E36-Spark-Plugs.htm>, 18.4 ft-lbs. ted On 5/26/05, twisty M3 <twistym3@hotmail.com> wrote: > Sorry to bother with something so simple, but does anyone have the torque > specs hand for the spark plugs? It's a 3.2L, but I'd assume the same for > either motor.
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#10. Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 13:20:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? Rex - I have the same problem with my wife :-) Although, I should not complain - she doesn't care what I do as long as I stay within the confines of total of 4 cars which is the same we had when we got married 13 years ago. Of course, my point is now that 1 car slot is taken up by a non registered or insured race car, it should not count. So by my math we only have 3 cars. By her math we have 4 cars. But what are ya gonna do? I try not to rock the boat on that one.... Scott Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> wrote: Date: Thu, 26 May 2005 09:31:16 -0700 From: Rex Tener Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? At 12:31 AM 5/26/2005 -0500, Scott M wrote: >Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:25:52 -0700 >From: Scott M >Subject: Re: [E36M3] 330i ZHP / E36 M3 or E46 M3 ??? > >Good input. I would tend to think the stock suspension would probably do >the trick for me. I was pretty happy with the stock set-up in the E36 M3 I >had as well. I raced an E46 M3 nationally in SCCA Solo II A-Stock in 2003. I was very impressed with this car as it did not feel as heavy as I thought it would. Great power, handling, and very solid. Not an E30 M3 or an E36 M3, but a better daily driver than either one of those. I would have one as a daily driver if I didn't have too many cars already (at least that is what my wife tells me :-). Rex ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************