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#1. Re: [E36M3] STi? - from Tom Reynolds
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:57:36 -0700 From: Tom Reynolds <kjtar@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? Or that could be it. I was thinking of an older Suby. I don't know, guys, speaking of turbos, I just get _really nervous_ about anything with a turbo that doesn't have a turbo timer that is actually used. I had a '85 Dodge Lancer ES 2.2 turbo 5 speed as a new car, and before everything else failed/dropped off the car, the turbo died due apparently to coking. I think I was using synthetic oil, but no one ever told me (and I didn't know) about having to run the car to cool it down for a minute or two or three after "spirited" driving... Tom Reynolds Sand Springs, OK At 11:06 AM 05/30/2005 -0500, Scott McClung wrote: > >Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 08:59:03 -0700 (PDT) >From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? > >True - I just started looking into those. Legacy GT Limited. Sell for around $30K, but dealers are advertising them now for $26K range. I may look into those. They come with the 250hp WRX engine and 5-speed and run 0-60 and 1/4mi close to a stock E36 M3. That would be a great fun to drive yet 100% respectable business car for me, but surely would not satisfy the hot rod urge for me. But maybe I can sweet talk the wife into letting me expand the stable by 1 car and pick up a nice vette or E36 M3 coupe as my "sports car" and use the Legacy as the daily driver. This may work out well if the lease rates are reasonable. Sounds like they are trying to move the cars, which is always a good time to buy one :-) > >Scott > >"Jay W. Hudson" <jwhud@budget.net> wrote: >Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 07:08:08 -0700 >From: "Jay W. Hudson" >Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? > >There's another Subie that isn't quite as "boy racer" looking. I can't >remember the exact name but it's a Legacy GT or something like that. I've >always thought they were kinda nice looking, AWD and sporty. > >Jay >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Scott M" >To: "E36M3" >Sent: Sunday, May 29, 2005 7:26 PM >Subject: [E36M3] STi? > > >> Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:25:22 -0700 >> From: Scott M >> Subject: STi? >> >> While I generally consider them way too ricey, I am also thinking about >> possibly adding the WRX STi to my short list. I decided to drop the 330i >PP >> from my list - I want whatever I get to double as my special toy and my >> primary driver. 330i just doesn't fit the bill for me. If I had a vette >> toy still then maybe, but I don't see adding one more car to the mix at >this >> point in time. Maybe 3 years down the line. >> >> But the STi is compelling on a few levels - stock comes with 300hp, is >only >> 100lbs heavier than an E36 M3 but has AWD, should be a good handler and >fun >> to drive. Plusses are a nice warrantee and essentially zero maint / >repair >> for 3-4 years. The E36 M3 is a 7yr old car at this point (plus / minus a >> year). And with a set of snow tires / wheels it would make a great car >for >> those quick 1-2 day ski trips too. But minuses for the Subie are it's >> econo box roots, and much lower quality interior and fit / finish than a >BMW >> - not to mention the image - racer genX vs. a more mature enthousiast >> following for the E36 M3. And the ride does not seem as compliant as an >M3 >> either, but is probably not that far off. Both are good handling, nimble >> and small sedan platforms. Also not thrilled with the exhaust note of the >> boxer engine - sounds like it is missing all the time. >> >> But with all that said, there is something compelling enough about a >4-door >> with AWD, 300hp and a 6-speed for low $30's brand new with a warrantee >that >> makes me at least want to think about it for a bit. >> >> Anyone here go from an E36 M3 to a STi? Impressions? Would you do it >over? >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> ************************************************* >> Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >> Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >> Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >> Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >> Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >> Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >> Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >> DIGEST INFORMATION: >> http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >> ************************************************* >> >> > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > > >-- >Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.11.15 - Release Date: 05/22/2005 > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. 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#2. Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft - from Steve Klein
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 12:19:26 -0500 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft Hey, Group- I'm about to go back and reassemble in defeat for the day. Being a holiday, I'd imagine everyone is out and about. Sooo, for future reference, here's my question: I'm trying to replace my primary timing chain on my '95 M3 and I've gotten all the cooling system removed (a pain to drain, and for some reason my water pump won't come out more than about a quarter of an inch. Replaced by my shop two years ago), and I've got the harmonic balancer unbolted from the flange at the front of the crankshaft. Now, to get the lower timing cover off, I have to remove that flange, and that means removing that gigantomongous 22mm bolt that holds it to the front of the crankshaft. My problems are multiple: with a Lt.Wt. flywheel without the locking hole, I can't lock the flywheel in place. I'm thinking of putting the car in 5th gear to hold the engine (chocked, locked and parking brakes) so I can remove it, but I don't know if this is wise. More importantly, I don't know which direction it's threaded. Since it spins Clockwise (from the front of the car) and drives the belts (which pull anticlockwise) I'm thinking it's a left handed thread, much like the viscous clutch fan is. If anyone has any advice, been-there's or knowledge, I'd greatly appreciate it. I'm on digest, so a direct copy would be welcomed. Thanks, Steve
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 10:32:46 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft Steve. I'm pretty sure it's left-hand-thread, but you should verify. 5th gear probably won't do the trick. A better solution is to immobilize the ring gear -- a second pair of hands with a large screwdriver, or people also sell tools (esp. for Porsche, I presume for BMW) that affix to the bell housing and lock the ring gear in place. I would use a manual torque multiplier (e.g. 3x planetary setup) on it, but you probably don't have one. I suspect most garages just use an impact wrench ... --Andrew >Hey, Group- > I'm about to go back and reassemble in defeat for the day. Being >a holiday, I'd imagine everyone is out and about. Sooo, for future >reference, here's my question: > > I'm trying to replace my primary timing chain on my '95 M3 and >I've gotten all the cooling system removed (a pain to drain, and for >some reason my water pump won't come out more than about a quarter >of an inch. Replaced by my shop two years ago), and I've got the >harmonic balancer unbolted from the flange at the front of the >crankshaft. > > Now, to get the lower timing cover off, I have to remove that >flange, and that means removing that gigantomongous 22mm bolt that >holds it to the front of the crankshaft. My problems are multiple: >with a Lt.Wt. flywheel without the locking hole, I can't lock the >flywheel in place. I'm thinking of putting the car in 5th gear to >hold the engine (chocked, locked and parking brakes) so I can remove >it, but I don't know if this is wise. > > More importantly, I don't know which direction it's threaded. >Since it spins Clockwise (from the front of the car) and drives the >belts (which pull anticlockwise) I'm thinking it's a left handed >thread, much like the viscous clutch fan is. > >If anyone has any advice, been-there's or knowledge, I'd greatly >appreciate it. I'm on digest, so a direct copy would be welcomed. > >Thanks, >Steve > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#4. Re: [E36M3] STi? - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 18:56:31 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? Comparing a mid eighties Dodge turbo to practically any other turbo car isn't really fair! Those Dodge turbos were perhaps the most unreliable turbo cars ever made! Most modern turbos are both oil and water cooled, making a turbo timer mostly extraneous unless you were really pounding on the car. For the older oil cooled turbos, just driving the last few minutes gently is generally enough to cool them down. Any turbo car will require a little more maintenance and most turbos have a lifespan of around 100k miles before needing a rebuild. I've put 100's of thousands of miles on turbocharged cars with no major failures... -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 11:57:36 -0700 > From: Tom Reynolds > Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? > > Or that could be it. I was thinking of an older Suby. I don't know, guys, > speaking of turbos, I just get _really nervous_ about anything with a turbo > that doesn't have a turbo timer that is actually used. I had a '85 Dodge > Lancer ES 2.2 turbo 5 speed as a new car, and before everything else > failed/dropped off the car, the turbo died due apparently to coking. I > think I was using synthetic oil, but no one ever told me (and I didn't > know) about having to run the car to cool it down for a minute or two or > three after "spirited" driving... > Tom Reynolds > Sand Springs, OK >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft - from Steve Klein
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 15:58:06 -0500 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft Can you tell me more about the torque multiplier? I see some interesting things online, but it seems that they all have to brace against or bolt up to something. How does one use one? I'm about to add coolant and finish up after having given it my all. Frustrated, but educated. I'll definitely need some sort of mechanical advantage to get that thing off, and I can't see getting an impact wrench in there with the a/c radiator (evaporator?) in place. Is it possible to unbolt that (and the aux. fan) and swing it out of the way so I could get an impact gun in there? I don't want to disassemble the AC as well. I've been looking forward to replacing the primary chain for a while, and also dreading the inevitable Unforseen Problem, which this bolt has turned out to be. I could see that I can get that lower timing cover off once that bolt is lose, and that was even more of a tease. Back to cleanup and perhaps enjoying my 'day off'. Thanks Andrew, Steve On May 30, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Andrew Kalman wrote: > Steve. > > I'm pretty sure it's left-hand-thread, but you should verify. > > 5th gear probably won't do the trick. A better solution is to > immobilize the ring gear -- a second pair of hands with a large > screwdriver, or people also sell tools (esp. for Porsche, I presume > for BMW) that affix to the bell housing and lock the ring gear in > place. > > I would use a manual torque multiplier (e.g. 3x planetary setup) on > it, but you probably don't have one. I suspect most garages just > use an impact wrench ... > > --Andrew
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:00:17 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft Hi Steve. Re: >Can you tell me more about the torque multiplier? They look like big socket wrenches / drivers, e.g. with a coaxial 3/4" square input (female) and 1" square output (male), and a really big (like, 3-5" diameter) "head". The "handle" is a reaction bar that must be placed against something rigid (e.g. the floor in this case). The reaction bar holds one part of the internal planetary gear set stationary so that when you crank on the input, the output (through gear reduction) gives you the multiplied torque. Here's an example of a Snap-On one: http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=8783&group_ID=976&store=snapon-store&dir=catalog I think I got mine through Snap-On (or maybe a friend got it for me as a gift, I can't remember), and I don't want to think about how much it cost. I bought it for torqueing the rear wheel bearings on the 914, which are up at around 400Nm, IIRC. But there should be cheaper versions out there -- it's really a simple concept, though the production numbers are likely to be pretty low. My LWT has only a radiator (no A/C), so for me (if I were to do it) it would be an easy, clean shot at that nut. I wouldn't be surprised if someone on the list has managed to get one loose through brute force. I'm a bit more conservative, and a tool freak. :) ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com > >I see some interesting things online, but it seems that they all >have to brace against or bolt up to something. How does one use one? > >I'm about to add coolant and finish up after having given it my all. >Frustrated, but educated. > >I'll definitely need some sort of mechanical advantage to get that >thing off, and I can't see getting an impact wrench in there with >the a/c radiator (evaporator?) in place. Is it possible to unbolt >that (and the aux. fan) and swing it out of the way so I could get >an impact gun in there? I don't want to disassemble the AC as well. > >I've been looking forward to replacing the primary chain for a >while, and also dreading the inevitable Unforseen Problem, which >this bolt has turned out to be. I could see that I can get that >lower timing cover off once that bolt is lose, and that was even >more of a tease. > >Back to cleanup and perhaps enjoying my 'day off'. > >Thanks Andrew, >Steve > > > > >On May 30, 2005, at 12:32 PM, Andrew Kalman wrote: > >>Steve. >> >>I'm pretty sure it's left-hand-thread, but you should verify. >> >>5th gear probably won't do the trick. A better solution is to >>immobilize the ring gear -- a second pair of hands with a large >>screwdriver, or people also sell tools (esp. for Porsche, I presume >>for BMW) that affix to the bell housing and lock the ring gear in >>place. >> >>I would use a manual torque multiplier (e.g. 3x planetary setup) on >>it, but you probably don't have one. I suspect most garages just >>use an impact wrench ... >> >>--Andrew --
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 16:23:37 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Help with Bolt on Front of Crankshaft Plenty on eBay right now ("torque multiplier") for under $250 ... -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com
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#8. STi? - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 22:32:51 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: STi? Scott, Hello.. I was talking with a fellow at Summit point a month ago who had an STi. He said that the power and braking is very nice, but the car does not communicate to him as well as his M coup. I have another friend who had an e30m3, e36m3, and a STi, and he sold the STi for the same reason.. He said that the car felt "numb" compared to the M cars.. I have only been in an STi a few times, so I do not know enough about the car, but I thought these opinions may help... Good luck. Mo -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:25:22 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: STi? While I generally consider them way too ricey, I am also thinking about possibly adding the WRX STi to my short list. I decided to drop the 330i PP from my list - I want whatever I get to double as my special toy and my primary driver. 330i just doesn't fit the bill for me. If I had a vette toy still then maybe, but I don't see adding one more car to the mix at this point in time. Maybe 3 years down the line. But the STi is compelling on a few levels - stock comes with 300hp, is only 100lbs heavier than an E36 M3 but has AWD, should be a good handler and fun to drive. Plusses are a nice warrantee and essentially zero maint / repair for 3-4 years. The E36 M3 is a 7yr old car at this point (plus / minus a year). And with a set of snow tires / wheels it would make a great car for those quick 1-2 day ski trips too. But minuses for the Subie are it's econo box roots, and much lower quality interior and fit / finish than a BMW - not to mention the image - racer genX vs. a more mature enthousiast following for the E36 M3. And the ride does not seem as compliant as an M3 either, but is probably not that far off. Both are good handling, nimble and small sedan platforms. Also not thrilled with the exhaust note of the boxer engine - sounds like it is missing all the time. But with all that said, there is something compelling enough about a 4-door with AWD, 300hp and a 6-speed for low $30's brand new with a warrantee that makes me at least want to think about it for a bit. Anyone here go from an E36 M3 to a STi? Impressions? Would you do it over? Scott
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#9.1989 325i - from Jason Knight
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Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 19:53:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Jason Knight <knight2244@yahoo.com> Subject: <FS> 1989 325i I'm selling my e30 325i. I originally bought it from a co-worker with the intention of making it my track car. I threw some money at it, as can be seen in the spreadsheet available in the attached link, but have decided to use the wife's Camaro race car for track days instead. We're shaking up the BMW stable as well, and the 325 doesn't fit into the new scheme. Below is the page I made for the car. It's in Santa Barbara, California (as am I fortunately). I can answer any questions or take pictures of anything that anyone wants to see. http://www.z28racergirl.com/1989325i.htm Jason
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#10. WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 04:39:02 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats Looking for a pair of these. Would prefer a used set, but also need leads on good places to buy a new set, as I doubt I'm going to find a used set... Thanks! -josh