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#1. Re: [E36M3] STi? - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:47:42 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? >Hello.. I was talking with a fellow at Summit point a month ago who had an >STi. He said that the power and braking is very nice, but the car does not >communicate to him as well as his M coup. I have another friend who had an >e30m3, e36m3, and a STi, and he sold the STi for the same reason.. He said >that the car felt "numb" compared to the M cars.. I've tracked my E30 M3, my E36 M3, and my friend's M Coupe and STi. I would not agree with the "numb" comment. The STi is an absolute monster on the track, it rockets out of corners has decent enough brakes (as if 4 piston calipers could be bad <g>), and you can even dial out the understeer by changing the center diff bias or whatever it's called, hell you can get break the rear tires loose with the diff set all the way towards the rear (it's some fr/rr split that I don't know specifically). I think my only issue with the car is that as Neil Maller says it best, is a tiny little sh!tbox. So my opinion on STi's is that it's too fast for the street, I hate the sound the engine/exhaust makes, and I've never been a Subaru fan so it doesn't stir anything inside of me, other than that the car can be a daily driver/autox car/track monster, even in stock form. Carlos.
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#2. M3 exhaust --> E36 325i ... questions? - from Theodore Serbinski
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 11:11:14 -0400 From: Theodore Serbinski <stanson@gmail.com> Subject: M3 exhaust --> E36 325i ... questions? Hey guys, Slightly off topic but I can't seem to find this info. A few weeks back I replaced my M3 exhaust with the AA Gen III exhaust (which I might say is a wonderful sounding exhaust, exactly as everyone says, not too loud, but when you want it, it sounds great). At the same time I replaced both the exhaust and muffler (which were cracked) hangers. Muffler gaskets were in good condititon so didn't need replacing. So now I'm giving my old M3 exhaust to my brother who drives a 1995 325i. However, we're having a bit of trouble figuring out whether the muffler hangers, exhaust hangers, and muffler gaskets are the same as my 1997 M3. On bimmerparts.com, they list the muffler hangers as different parts, but yet look exactly the same. Gaskets aren't coming up under the right title either. Tried calling a few places and have heard mixed results. Based on my thinking, I am assuming go ahead and buy 1997 M3 muffler hangers, 1995 325i exhaust hangers, and 1997 M3 exhaust gaskets. Can anyone back up or refute or clarify this thinking? Thanks! ted
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#3. Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:44:05 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats on 5/30/05 11:56 PM, docwyte@comcast.net wrote: > Looking for a pair of these. Would prefer a used set, but also need leads on > good places to buy a new set, as I doubt I'm going to find a used set... Josh, I bought my Recaro Speeds privately (previously owned but never installed), however here are some places I know of that sell them: <http://www.tcklineracing.com/seats.htm> <http://www.speedwaremotorsports.com/seat/rec.asp> <http://www.northstarmotorsports.com/products/?sfID1=4&sfID2=5&manufacturerI D=20> I'm sure that there are many others: try Google. Choice may depend as much on your location as anything else, since these are awkward items to ship. I was able to take the wagon and go pick them up 150 miles away, which made things simpler and cheaper. If you want the Speed version I have, with the sewn in slot for sub belts, they may be special order and take a while according to the PO. However now that I've seen how they're constructed I can also see that it would be possible to have an upholstery shop sew in a slot without much difficulty or expense, since no structural modification to the seat frame is needed. If/when you get them I can give you some tips on installation, since I've recently finished doing that. They're are very nice seats, but I should mention that they're probably not for people with a large frame. I'm 6 ft/190 lbs, and the 20 lbs I could certainly stand to lose isn't located in my butt. Fit is snug in a good way, but I wouldn't want to be any bigger in the hips. If you're like one of those 250 lb students that I always seem to get as passengers at the track then make sure you try them out first. Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats - from Chester Wong
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 08:49:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats HAHA! For me, it's the opposite...getting the 250 lb instructors! ;) I forgot to put into the comments/notes section for the Summit Point school a request for a svelte instructor....imagine big bubba's surprise when he realizes he can't fit.... :o Chester --- Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> wrote: > the hips. If you're like one of those 250 lb students that I always seem to > get as passengers at the track then make sure you try them out first.
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#5. RE: STi? - from Stefano G
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 12:56:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: RE: STi? Hi Scott, I'm certain a few of the e36 M3 guys looked at the STi as a worthy competitor however... As you mentioned you are comparing a 7 year old car with a new one so if you are going to consider "saving $$$" on maitenance remember that the M3 will save you $20K in purchase price. That's a lot of maintenance $$$. The M3 with snow tires will do just fine in the winter. Finally if you have $$$ burning in your pocket I highly suggest you look at an EVO RS. Stefanocontent with the 7 years old M3. in response to --------------------Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 19:25:22 -0700From: Scott M Subject: STi?While I generally consider them way too ricey, I am also thinking aboutpossibly adding the WRX STi to my short list. I decided to drop the 330i PPfrom my list - I want whatever I get to double as my special toy and myprimary driver. 330i just doesn't fit the bill for me. If I had a vettetoy still then maybe, but I don't see adding one more car to the mix at thispoint in time. Maybe 3 years down the line.But the STi is compelling on a few levels - stock comes with 300hp, is only100lbs heavier than an E36 M3 but has AWD, should be a good handler and funto drive. Plusses are a nice warrantee and essentially zero maint / repairfor 3-4 years. The E36 M3 is a 7yr old car at this point (plus / minus ayear). And with a set of snow tires / wheels it would make a great car forthose quick 1-2 day ski trips too. But minuses for the Subie are it'secono box roots, and much lower quality interior and fit / finish than a BMW- not to mention the image - racer genX vs. a more mature enthousiastfollowing for the E36 M3. And the ride does not seem as compliant as an M3either, but is probably not that far off. Both are good handling, nimbleand small sedan platforms. Also not thrilled with the exhaust note of theboxer engine - sounds like it is missing all the time.But with all that said, there is something compelling enough about a 4-doorwith AWD, 300hp and a 6-speed for low $30's brand new with a warrantee thatmakes me at least want to think about it for a bit.Anyone here go from an E36 M3 to a STi? Impressions? Would you do it over?Scott-------------------- _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#6. Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats - from Neil Maller
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 13:13:18 -0500 From: Neil Maller <neil.maller@gte.net> Subject: Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats on 5/31/05 10:49 AM, Chester Wong at chester_p_wong@yahoo.com wrote: > HAHA! For me, it's the opposite...getting the 250 lb instructors! ;) I > forgot to put into the comments/notes section for the Summit Point school a > request for a svelte instructor....imagine big bubba's surprise when he > realizes he can't fit.... :o I do actually try to take that into consideration for certain cars. At our April school we sometimes have a Lotus with the factory roll bar where the diagonal passes forward and down between the passenger's knees. The instructor has to be short and slender enough to fit. And of course crazy enough to agree to it... Neil Fort Wayne, IN 96 M3 - Bastard child 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD!
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#7. Re: [E36M3] Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:06:20 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats >The instructor has to be short and slender enough to fit. And of course crazy >enough to agree to it... Yeah that Simon sure is a trooper! :-) Carlos.
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#8. Re: [E36M3] Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats - from docwyte@comcast.net
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:43:46 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats Thanks Neil. I've sat in them before and they're a very good fit for me, comfy too! Good tips on the sub strap hole, as they're much cheaper without it and if I can get an upholstery shop to add it cheaply, that's the way to go. I'm going to be installing them in my porsche 944 turbo, so I'm not sure if your tips will cross over... -josh -------------- Original message -------------- > Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 10:44:05 -0500 > From: Neil Maller > Subject: Re: WTB: Recaro SRD/Speed seats > > on 5/30/05 11:56 PM, docwyte@comcast.net wrote: > > > Looking for a pair of these. Would prefer a used set, but also need leads on > > good places to buy a new set, as I doubt I'm going to find a used set... > > Josh, > > I bought my Recaro Speeds privately (previously owned but never installed), > however here are some places I know of that sell them: > > > > D=20> > I'm sure that there are many others: try Google. > > Choice may depend as much on your location as anything else, since these are > awkward items to ship. I was able to take the wagon and go pick them up 150 > miles away, which made things simpler and cheaper. > > If you want the Speed version I have, with the sewn in slot for sub belts, > they may be special order and take a while according to the PO. However now > that I've seen how they're constructed I can also see that it would be > possible to have an upholstery shop sew in a slot without much difficulty or > expense, since no structural modification to the seat frame is needed. > > If/when you get them I can give you some tips on installation, since I've > recently finished doing that. They're are very nice seats, but I should > mention that they're probably not for people with a large frame. I'm 6 > ft/190 lbs, and the 20 lbs I could certainly stand to lose isn't located in > my butt. Fit is snug in a good way, but I wouldn't want to be any bigger in > the hips. If you're like one of those 250 lb students that I always seem to > get as passengers at the track then make sure you try them out first. > > Neil > Fort Wayne, IN > 96 M3 - Bastard child > 03 525iT - Sterling Grey Metallic > 77 MGB - Original owner, need to sell > 05 Mini - Cooper S with LSD! > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* >
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#9. RE: [E36M3] STi? - from Mo Karamat
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 23:46:24 -0400 From: Mo Karamat <karamatm@optonline.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] STi? Carlos, Like I said, it is not my opinion, but what I have heard from others... Enjoy Mo -----Original Message----- From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com [mailto:Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:48 AM To: karamatm@optonline.net Cc: e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] STi? >Hello.. I was talking with a fellow at Summit point a month ago who had an >STi. He said that the power and braking is very nice, but the car does not >communicate to him as well as his M coup. I have another friend who had an >e30m3, e36m3, and a STi, and he sold the STi for the same reason.. He said >that the car felt "numb" compared to the M cars.. I've tracked my E30 M3, my E36 M3, and my friend's M Coupe and STi. I would not agree with the "numb" comment. The STi is an absolute monster on the track, it rockets out of corners has decent enough brakes (as if 4 piston calipers could be bad <g>), and you can even dial out the understeer by changing the center diff bias or whatever it's called, hell you can get break the rear tires loose with the diff set all the way towards the rear (it's some fr/rr split that I don't know specifically). I think my only issue with the car is that as Neil Maller says it best, is a tiny little sh!tbox. So my opinion on STi's is that it's too fast for the street, I hate the sound the engine/exhaust makes, and I've never been a Subaru fan so it doesn't stir anything inside of me, other than that the car can be a daily driver/autox car/track monster, even in stock form. Carlos.
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#10. Stock cams to sell? - from James Clay
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Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2005 14:18:44 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Stock cams to sell? Looking for a nice set of E36 M3 cams. Anyone have a set of takeouts to sell? Please email privately with price. Thanks. James James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com <http://www.bimmerworld.com/> http://www.bimmerworldracing.com <http://www.bimmerworldracing.com/> Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648