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#1. Falken Azenis 615 and Master Cyl? - from Steve Klein
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Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 22:17:43 -0500 From: Steve Klein <klein@robinsonad.com> Subject: Falken Azenis 615 and Master Cyl? This Saturday, I had 225/45/17 Falken Azenis 615s installed on my 7.5" M Contours ('95 M3) and I absolutely love them. They grip so much, they remind me how much I hate my H&R OE Sport springs. Asking for a tighter radius in mid turn was simply uneventful. I can't wait to start autocrossing! They feel fantastic at speed and are nearly silent. It rained hard most of Saturday evening as tornados and severe storms rolled through, so I had plenty of chances to see how they handled the wet. At full tread, they took inch-plus standing water impressively well. Even on the highway, they were firmly planted with no indications of hydroplaning at all. Hauling the car down on stock pads and rotors is a dream as well. So, here's an issue it's highlighted that I've been sensing for a while: On my LM-22s and well-worn GT-F1s, under threshold braking, the front right always seems to lock up first, causing ABS to kick in on that wheel only. With these tires, for the first time I could feel the car rotating around the front right wheel on braking since it wasn't locking up, and this is indicating a problem somewhere in the system. I've got the kits to rebuild the front calipers, and I'll be doing that shortly, but this seems more like it would be a master cylinder issue, with the seal for one circuit (L.Front/R.Rear) leaking enough that I'm effectively getting more pressure at the calipers on the other circuit (R.Front/L.Rear). Does this make sense? Am I justified in suspecting this from the MC? Thanks in advance for your help, Steve (Hope to replace the primary timing chain this weekend as the last component in quieting down the engine chatter most attribute to VANOS. Pics and writeup will follow.)
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#2. Scott's play car dilemma - from Msebmwman@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:53:41 EDT From: Msebmwman@aol.com Subject: Scott's play car dilemma Scott; I don't think you have any alternative except to consider what the current exchange rate would be for your toy. What is your wife wanting most right now either explicitly expressed or strongly implied? Stone, kitchen remodel, master bath remodel, newer commuter car, cruise, trip to europe? You'll have to get her that trinket in exchange for you getting your trinket. That's the exchange rate and sometimes it's cheap and sometimes it's expensive. Go to it and good luck! Regards, Marc 95M3
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#3. Re: [E36M3] Scott's play car dilemma - from Scott M
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Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:17:21 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Scott's play car dilemma I decided this was not the time to angle for adding 1 car to the stable. I will stay with 2 toys and the almost new SUV. My strategy will be to make the street toy much more useable as a primary daily driver, unlike the Z06 which is just $40K worth of garage art for the most part. I am focusing on finding a late E36 M3 coupe or sedan with reasonable miles on it. That will leave plenty of money left over to do some more work on the race car, and to mod the M3 as I see the need arise. Wife is good on her transportation, her car is only 1.5 years old - of course, hard to believe she is pushing 27K miles on it already!! Thank goodness it has a 4 cly and gets 25mpg around town... Scott '04 Nissan Armada '04 Z06 - For Sale '03 Mazda Protege5 '91 Corvette - road race car on 6/6/05 11:02 PM, Msebmwman@aol.com at Msebmwman@aol.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 01:53:41 EDT > From: Msebmwman@aol.com > Subject: Scott's play car dilemma > > Scott; > > I don't think you have any alternative except to consider what the current > exchange rate would be for your toy. > > What is your wife wanting most right now either explicitly expressed or > strongly implied? Stone, kitchen remodel, master bath remodel, newer commuter > car, > cruise, trip to europe? You'll have to get her that trinket in exchange for > you getting your trinket. > > That's the exchange rate and sometimes it's cheap and sometimes it's > expensive. > > Go to it and good luck! > > Regards, > Marc > 95M3 > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#4. RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal - from Michael, Dave
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:07:17 -0400 From: "Michael, Dave" <Dave_Michael@maxtor.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal docwyte@comcast.net wrote: >It's the pad compound, not the fluid. Most "dustless" pads just don't stop the car under >any really aggressive conditions, they just can't handle the heat. Chances are you've >glazed the pads, I'd take them out and file them down, then reinstall them and re-bed them. >Just realize that their performance envelope is very small. I can understand how maybe dustless pads would fade sooner/worse than high carbon pads due to glazing etc. But I don't see how that explains the soft pedal. In any case, I have concluded that I was boiling the fluid. I just find it hard to believe that 6 or 8 stops from 60 will do that to ate fluid..... Thanks for all the suggestions Dave
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#5. RE: [E36M3] FS: Forgeline 17x9 w/BFG R1 245/40, 255/40 - from Robert Chay
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:32:34 -0400 From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] FS: Forgeline 17x9 w/BFG R1 245/40, 255/40 I also have Brembo 320mm brakes if there's any interest. They're powder-coated blue and I have a set of Pagid Orange for the track and Reds for the street. The orange was used for one weekend at Laguna Seca and have tons of material left. I paid $3300 a few years ago. Make a reasonable offer. I'll probably start posting these on bimmerforums and ebay in a week or so if there's no interest. Thanks, -Bobby > -----Original Message----- > > I have a set of Forgelines for sale. > > $1600 or B/O > > http://www.rchay.com/images/Forgelines.JPG > > They've been sitting in garbage bags for a couple of years in > a cool storage > area. > Straight but with some curb rash. > No center caps > BFG R1 in 245/40 and 255/40 sizes. They have 1 20min session > and 1 autox on > the tires. > > I would like to sell them locally (NY/NJ area). If interested, please > respond to this e-mail. > > Thanks, > > -Bobby > > Ps. I also have 3 ACS Type 3 18x8 wheels with Pilot Sports (2x225/40, > 1x255/35). Make offer. >
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#6. Re: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal NOW: ultimates - from Stefano G
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:18:38 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stefano G" <stefanoale@excite.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal NOW: ultimates Ultimates have 1 good thing, they are cheap. This is my experience with streetable pads on my '98 M3: In Stopping Power Order... 1) Hawkes HP+ track worthy but they dust like a mother and squeal like pigs getting slaughtered (pretty graphic but you get the idea) 2) Hawkes HPS my pick. they do squeal on rare occasion 3) Stock Pagids/Jurids/textars 4) Ultimates very quite, soft, cheap but they don't stop all that well... Stefano In response to :-------------------- Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 01:02:47 +0000 From: docwyte@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal Some people like the Ultimates. I ran them and personally thought they stunk. ----------------- _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!
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#7. RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 10:03:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal On Tue, June 7, 2005 7:12 am, Michael, Dave said: > I can understand how maybe dustless pads would fade sooner/worse than > high carbon pads due to glazing etc. But I don't see how that explains > the soft pedal. Pedal feel is a function of the pad/compound. (And number of caliper pistons, but that's another discussion :-)) > In any case, I have concluded that I was boiling the fluid. I just find > it hard to believe that 6 or 8 stops from 60 will do that to ate > fluid..... It won't, and you didn't :-) With all the work you did on the brake system, you may need to do another bleed to get any residual air out of the system. But I'm placing my money on the pads. Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - stock pads, good pedal feel 1993 325is #44 JP - race pads & calipers, GREAT pedal feel :-)
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#8. RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal - from Michael, Dave
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 14:16:03 -0400 From: "Michael, Dave" <Dave_Michael@maxtor.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal > Pedal feel is a function of the pad/compound. (And number of > caliper pistons, but that's another discussion :-)) Jim The pedal goes soft only when the brakes fade/go away. At all other times, the pedal is firm. I can't figure out a way that pad compound can cause that sort symptom.....maybe gas build up under the pads? Hmmm Dave > -----Original Message----- > From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:04 PM > To: Michael, Dave > Cc: E36M3 > Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal > > > On Tue, June 7, 2005 7:12 am, Michael, Dave said: > > I can understand how maybe dustless pads would fade > sooner/worse than > > high carbon pads due to glazing etc. But I don't see how > that explains > > the soft pedal. > > Pedal feel is a function of the pad/compound. (And number of > caliper pistons, but that's another discussion :-)) > > > In any case, I have concluded that I was boiling the fluid. I just > > find it hard to believe that 6 or 8 stops from 60 will do > that to ate > > fluid..... > > It won't, and you didn't :-) > > With all the work you did on the brake system, you may need > to do another bleed to get any residual air out of the system. > > But I'm placing my money on the pads. > > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 - stock pads, good pedal feel > 1993 325is #44 JP - race pads & calipers, GREAT pedal feel :-) > >
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#9. RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 11:25:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal On Tue, June 7, 2005 11:16 am, Michael, Dave said: > Jim > > The pedal goes soft only when the brakes fade/go away. OK; and that's normal when pads fade. > At all other > times, the pedal is firm. OK. > I can't figure out a way that pad compound can > cause that sort symptom.....maybe gas build up under the pads? Maybe, but as I understand it, that isn't much of an issue with today's pads. More likely, you're asking the pads to do more than they are able to do. Street pads and/or cheap pads WILL fade very quickly, especially in hard driving situations. Either don't expose these particualr pads to that type of use, or change the pads. Jim Bassett > > Hmmm > > > Dave > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:04 PM >> To: Michael, Dave >> Cc: E36M3 >> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Brake Fade + Soft Pedal >> >> >> On Tue, June 7, 2005 7:12 am, Michael, Dave said: >> > I can understand how maybe dustless pads would fade >> sooner/worse than >> > high carbon pads due to glazing etc. But I don't see how >> that explains >> > the soft pedal. >> >> Pedal feel is a function of the pad/compound. (And number of >> caliper pistons, but that's another discussion :-)) >> >> > In any case, I have concluded that I was boiling the fluid. I just >> > find it hard to believe that 6 or 8 stops from 60 will do >> that to ate >> > fluid..... >> >> It won't, and you didn't :-) >> >> With all the work you did on the brake system, you may need >> to do another bleed to get any residual air out of the system. >> >> But I'm placing my money on the pads. >> >> Jim Bassett >> 1998 M3/4 - stock pads, good pedal feel >> 1993 325is #44 JP - race pads & calipers, GREAT pedal feel :-) >> >> > >
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#10. How long for new lifters to quiet down? - from Andrew Kalman
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Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2005 15:57:05 -0700 From: Andrew Kalman <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: How long for new lifters to quiet down? Hi All. I (finally, after 6 months or so) put my LWT's engine back together on Saturday. In addition to replacing all the valve springs and retainers, I also replaced three of the hydraulic lifters. I dropped them in a can of oil first, but stupid me, I forgot to manually "pump them up" (HANS UND FRANZ!) before installing them. Well, now that I have the engine running, I have some pretty loud lifter tick / noise. I presume they still have some air left in them. How long will it take for them to quiet down? Can I drive safely at <4,000rpm in an effort to fill them up? Or should I wait and let the engine idle until they quiet down? I let it idle for around 10 minutes, and they seemed to get a little quieter, but not much. So I popped the valve cover off, and quickly discovered that the 6B exhaust lifter would collapse easily if I pushed on it with a chopstick. So I went looking for the other two new ones, and they also seem to collapse slightly, but not as much. The weird thing is, after turning the engine over a few times as I rotated the cams, the 6B exhaust lifter no longer collapses! -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com P.S. Don't EVER drop one of the valve cover retaining washers into a spark plug hole -- it's a perfect fit over the plug, and a bitch to get out. I'm still struggling with one in cylinder #4 :(