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#1. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Does the coupe have the little nipples hidden inside the weatherstripping on the roof line like the sedan does? The Yakima I used to have on my sedan attached to those. Scott Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:52:01 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks >Has anyone used the Thule rack on a 2-door M3? It should work, right? There is no difference in the upper body / >windows of an M3 vs. regular 3 series, right? Yup. I used to have a Thule roof rack on my old 95 M3 that I had 6 years ago. -Carlos. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#2. Front control arm replacement cost? - from Michael, Dave
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:33:02 -0400 From: "Michael, Dave" <Dave_Michael@maxtor.com> Subject: Front control arm replacement cost? Folks So my car was at the dealer for some minor work a few weeks ago, and on the work order they wrote that I needed both front ball joints replaced. Estimated cost - $1065.00. Figuring that was way too much, I researched the part cost and found that control arms could be had for no more than $180.00 each. So I instead took the car to a local independent BMW specialist. His part cost was reasonable, but he still charged 5 hours labor. Is that really what it takes? Total cost was $780.00...... Anyways, I have that slightly odd feeling that something smells a little, but I can't tell if its real or if I am imagining things Opinions welcome. Thanks! Dave 98 m3/4
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#3. RE: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:33:30 -0400 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Yes, one nip per mounting point, two mounting points per side. 4 nipples total hidden in roof seam behind rubber door seal. The e36 attachment is the same 4 door, 2 door, and M models, 318, 325 & 328. For some strange reason Thule doesn't list applications for M, I think because it's a sports car and is more capable/liable to be thrown thru corners at a higher velocity by its owners. Yakima just didn't care to exclude the M, but with carrying any cargo comes the assumption of some degree of common sense of the operator. I guess there are a lot of questions, yes the yakima rack I am selling will work for us all. Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:22 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Does the coupe have the little nipples hidden inside the weatherstripping on the roof line like the sedan does? The Yakima I used to have on my sedan attached to those. Scott Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:52:01 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks >Has anyone used the Thule rack on a 2-door M3? It should work, right? There is no difference in the upper body / >windows of an M3 vs. regular 3 series, right? Yup. I used to have a Thule roof rack on my old 95 M3 that I had 6 years ago. -Carlos. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#4. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from J Files
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:34:40 -0700 From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. I think they are "Y clips"... Anyway, I've got the clips and associated towers in the rafters at home. They definitely work, but the parts are getting harder to come by, as Yakima has been making the "Q" clips and towers for at least a decade. If you are interested, I can look this evening and get you some part numbers. You may find the old parts on eBay or similar -- I did. Or you may convince me to sell them, as I generally use the Yakima (with Q clips and Q Towers) on my Cherokee. Kept the narrow bars, towers, and clips for the M3 around as a "just in case" type thing - some times, you just want the M3 on a trip, rather than the Jeep. Thule gear will also fit the E36 coupe, as a friend has a Thule roof rack for his 98 M3. Both Thule and Yakima hook up to the edges of the roof, there are no embedded/hidden clips as the E46 has. Jim On 6/16/05, Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:25:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> > Subject: speaking of bike racks > > Yakima has no fit listed for the E36 3-series 2-door. However, Thule lists a fit for the E36 3 series 2-door but shows no fit for the M3 2-door. Has anyone used the Thule rack on a 2-door M3? It should work, right? There is no difference in the upper body / windows of an M3 vs. regular 3 series, right? > > Scott > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#5. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks On Thu, June 16, 2005 11:22 am, Scott McClung said: > Does the coupe have the little nipples hidden inside the weatherstripping > on the roof line like the sedan does? The sedan has nipplies?!? Cool. Jim Bassett - heading out to check right now.....on second thought, I'll wait til I get to the privacy of my own garage. :-)
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#6. RE: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:44:17 -0400 From: Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Hehe, and mine are bright red, hellrot red that is. 97 M3/4 Hellrot -----Original Message----- From: Jim Bassett [mailto:jim@jimbassett.com] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:42 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks On Thu, June 16, 2005 11:22 am, Scott McClung said: > Does the coupe have the little nipples hidden inside the > weatherstripping on the roof line like the sedan does? The sedan has nipplies?!? Cool. Jim Bassett - heading out to check right now.....on second thought, I'll wait til I get to the privacy of my own garage. :-) ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#7. RE: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:46:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Good to know - maybe I will buy it from ya, let me think about it. as an aside, I have flung my old M3/4 pretty hard heading up HWY9 and related mountain roads on the way to the MTB trails with a bike on top. Never had an issue. I sure had a lot more fun on the way there and on the way back than those chumps in their SUVs :-) HA. Scott Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: Yes, one nip per mounting point, two mounting points per side. 4 nipples total hidden in roof seam behind rubber door seal. The e36 attachment is the same 4 door, 2 door, and M models, 318, 325 & 328. For some strange reason Thule doesn't list applications for M, I think because it's a sports car and is more capable/liable to be thrown thru corners at a higher velocity by its owners. Yakima just didn't care to exclude the M, but with carrying any cargo comes the assumption of some degree of common sense of the operator. I guess there are a lot of questions, yes the yakima rack I am selling will work for us all. Patrick Goss 97 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: Scott McClung [mailto:smlists@pacbell.net] Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:22 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:13:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Does the coupe have the little nipples hidden inside the weatherstripping on the roof line like the sedan does? The Yakima I used to have on my sedan attached to those. Scott Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 13:52:01 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks >Has anyone used the Thule rack on a 2-door M3? It should work, right? There is no difference in the upper body / >windows of an M3 vs. regular 3 series, right? Yup. I used to have a Thule roof rack on my old 95 M3 that I had 6 years ago. -Carlos. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm ************************************************* ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************
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#8. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:47:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks No need - I have those clips left over from my set-up on my M3/4. I never get rid of anything, cause you never know when you may need it again :-) Scott J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. I think they are "Y clips"... Anyway, I've got the clips and associated towers in the rafters at home. They definitely work, but the parts are getting harder to come by, as Yakima has been making the "Q" clips and towers for at least a decade. If you are interested, I can look this evening and get you some part numbers. You may find the old parts on eBay or similar -- I did. Or you may convince me to sell them, as I generally use the Yakima (with Q clips and Q Towers) on my Cherokee. Kept the narrow bars, towers, and clips for the M3 around as a "just in case" type thing - some times, you just want the M3 on a trip, rather than the Jeep. Thule gear will also fit the E36 coupe, as a friend has a Thule roof rack for his 98 M3. Both Thule and Yakima hook up to the edges of the roof, there are no embedded/hidden clips as the E46 has. Jim On 6/16/05, Scott McClung wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 10:25:48 -0700 (PDT) > From: Scott McClung > Subject: speaking of bike racks > > Yakima has no fit listed for the E36 3-series 2-door. However, Thule lists a fit for the E36 3 series 2-door but shows no fit for the M3 2-door. Has anyone used the Thule rack on a 2-door M3? It should work, right? There is no difference in the upper body / windows of an M3 vs. regular 3 series, right? > > Scott > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >
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#9. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from J Files
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:48:39 -0700 From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks In light of the newer post referring to nipples on the M3/4, I must amend my message... On 6/16/05, J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:34:40 -0700 > From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks > > The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. ON THE COUPE, WITH THE Y CLIPS, the > ...Yakima hooks up to the edges of the roof, there are no > embedded/hidden clips as the E46 has. > Never checked in the weather stripping for nipples. Clearly the E36 coupe lacks the flip-cover rack mount points that the E46 coupe has. No recent exposure to an E36 sedan to look at its roof to comment on their presence...
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#10. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Scott McClung
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:51:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Scott McClung <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Sho-nuff!! The system works OK, but the one downside is the feet of the Q-tower does touch the paint. The newer BMW's have a much better integrated rack attachment with hidden feet that hold the rack w/o touching the paint. Much better set-up. But not enough better to sway a car buying decision to a platform that has other less desireable attributes. Here is a pic of the rack set-up I used on my M5 when I had it: http://home.pacbell.net/dorenemc/M5Rack.html I do still have the same bike, btw.... Scott Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks On Thu, June 16, 2005 11:22 am, Scott McClung said: > Does the coupe have the little nipples hidden inside the weatherstripping > on the roof line like the sedan does? The sedan has nipplies?!? Cool. Jim Bassett - heading out to check right now.....on second thought, I'll wait til I get to the privacy of my own garage. :-) ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************