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#1. Re: [E36M3] Radiator ? - from James Clay
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 19:33:07 -0400 From: "James Clay" <james@bimmerworld.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Radiator ? If it is a track car - no question, replace it. You just got a nice usable spare and at some point, it will probably be worth it in a pinch. We have them for $184, there are probably cheaper ones out there. How much does a hotel, food, travel, track fees, etc add up to for the day/weekend you would potentially lose? James Clay http://www.bimmerworld.com <http://www.bimmerworld.com/> http://www.bimmerworldracing.com <http://www.bimmerworldracing.com/> Engineered BMW Performance 540.639.9648
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#2. Diff front mount bushing - from Alan Leung
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:54:48 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: Diff front mount bushing On mine you can actually see a crack in the rubber bushing around the bolt. My mechanic said the front mount bolt can snap off if there is excessive movement in the diff. James, is there a special tool required to pull the front mount bushing? Thanks. Alan > > -----Original Message----- > From: Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) > [mailto:alexander.avedis@baesystems.com] > Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2005 2:57 PM > To: M3 Digest > Cc: james@bimmerworld.com > Subject: Differential front mount bushing > > > > I think I missed the front [beginning] portion of this thread but how > can you tell if your differential mounts need replacing? What's > prompting the question is that on occasion when going backwards and > accelerating from a stop I get a clunking sound from the rear like > something is hitting something. It is very definitely from the rear but > only occasionally. Any thoughts? > > > > Also what's a pluuer? Puller? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Alex > > NJ Chapter > > 98 M3/4 75k miles >
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#3. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from J Files
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:10 -0700 From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks One more follow up / clarification post, as I seem to have created some confusion: * I have the old Y clips with my Yakima. The rack works on the e36 coupe, and has for years. It does not do anything with nipples or the door seal. * I do not have an e36 sedan. I have not been in close proximity to one with a roof rack. I can not state which rack parts would work there - you would be well advised to consult the manufacturer, not me. When I purchased the Y series clips, I could not find Q clips that would work. It sounds like, based on the email from Patrick in this thread, that the attachment points should be the same. If that is the case, then the Yakima sedan Q clips should work for the E36 coupe. On 6/16/05, J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: > The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. I think they > are "Y clips"... Anyway, I've got the clips and associated towers in > the rafters at home. They definitely work, but the parts are getting > harder to come by, as Yakima has been making the "Q" clips and towers > for at least a decade. >
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#4. Re: [E36M3] Differential front mount bushing - from loweseaton@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:13:33 -0400 From: loweseaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Differential front mount bushing Alex, Your M3 is getting a little older and more miles but if you had asked about this rear end "clunk" 5 years ago, I would have said without hesitation "it is normal - they all do it." My '95 M3 has had a rear end "clunk" from day one. I spent many hours trying to figure out what was causing it when I first got my M3 nine years ago. It is just one of the quirks of the M3. Another quirk is the "ticking" lifters and another is the "marbles in a can" VaNoS noise. It doesn't sound like you have owned your M3 very long? There are several other common M3 traits you will hear about. You get used to them - they give our beloved M3 its "character." I'd say unless you have a suspicion that your M3 was drag raced or abused, I would not worry about the "clunking" sound coming from the differential. I would be much more concerned about your radiator and water pump. The E36 M3 radiator only has an expected life of about 70,000 miles. It is very doubtful your radiator has been replaced at 75K so I would do that ASAP, especially with summer starting. The water pump is probably good for another 15,000 miles but you might as well replace it when the radiator is out. And the other thing I would replace is the struts/shocks. At 75K for a '98 M3, I'd wager you still have the original struts. Another "character" trait of the E36 M3 is the stock struts/shocks are junk. They are completely shot after 30,000 miles, 40K tops. Lowell Seaton '95 M3/2 -----Original Message----- From: Avedis, Alexander (US SSA) <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:02:10 -0500 Subject: [E36M3] Differential front mount bushing Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:57:08 -0400 From: "Avedis, Alexander (US SSA)" <alexander.avedis@baesystems.com> Subject: Differential front mount bushing I think I missed the front [beginning] portion of this thread but how can you tell if your differential mounts need replacing? What's prompting the question is that on occasion when going backwards and accelerating from a stop I get a clunking sound from the rear like something is hitting something. It is very definitely from the rear but only occasionally. Any thoughts? Thanks. Alex NJ Chapter 98 M3/4 75k miles
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#5. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from loweseaton@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:45:18 -0400 From: loweseaton@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks I'm going to refute several things Patrick and Jim said - sorry guys. I own a '95 U.S. model M3 2-door sedan. (Yes, sedan - technically the E36 2-door is a sedan, not a coupe. Long time list member John Firestone can present a long dissertation on this subject. In Europe, the 2-door models are called "saloon" and the 4-doors are "limousine".) But for the purpose of fitting roof top bike racks, all E36 2-doors are the same, including M3's; they have the same roof and doors. I'm going to be absolute (which is usually bad to do) and say "there is no roof top rack that fits a 2-door E36 model." I'll explain my reasons below. But for sure, Patrick's "Q-Tower" Yakima rack will not fit all E36 models, just 4-door E36 models, including the '97-'98 M3. Jim's older "SST-Tower" Yakima rack might fit but I would not recommend it for frequent use or heavy loads. And it sounds like Jim is heeding this advice by leaving it in his attic for the last several years. Yakima did specify a fitment for the '92-'96 E36 2-door back in 1996 or so. I remember looking it up when I first bought my M3 in February 1996. But as Jim correctly states, Yakima began producing the "Q-Tower" version shortly thereafter which replaced the older "SST-Towers." Yakima never approved use of the "Q-Tower" for the E36 2-door, probably for good reason. Theoretically I suppose, the "Q-Tower" should fit if the "SST-Tower" fit. They are basically the same design. I'm not sure what Thule is up to. I'm a long time Yakima rack owner and snob :-) , so I don't pay attention to Thule. I surfed their web site tonight and it is inconclusive. On the pull down menu, Thule shows a fitment for the '97 and '98 M3 but not the '95, '96, nor '99 M3 which are all the same. However, when you go to list the rack model, it says "no roof top rack is available" for the M3. But it does a show a fitment for the standard E36 2-door from '95 to '99. The 2-door M3 is the same as any other 2-door E36 so if there is a roof top rack for the standard model, the same one should fit the M3 as well. Then the other inconsistency is there were 4-door M3 models in '97 and '98 that most definitely should have available roof top racks but Thule doesn't list them. Thule properly lists racks for the standard E36 4-door. Very confusing and inconsistent. I think there is a typo in Thule's chart. I would just be safe and say "don't try to use a Thule rack on any 2-door E36 model." OK, so why no roof top rack for the 2-door E36? And this goes for Jim's old "SST-Tower" model too. I think Yakima rightly had second thoughts about fitting a roof top rack on the 2-door model and rescinded their approval. Two reasons. First, due to the curved roof and short door opening, you can't get the cross bars more than about 24" apart. That is really borderline for any secure load support. You definitely would not want to carry more than a few pounds - 50 lbs max - and it should be as close to the roof as possible. Carrying a bike, two bikes certainly, would put a lot of strain on the front cross bar trying to pull it up. The wind would catch the bike(s) and try to pull the cross bar up. I believe Yakima recommended using their "extension kit" to push the rear cross bar farther back on the roof even when they did list the "SST-Tower" fitment for this reason. And that leads me to the second and biggest reason why no roof rack should be mounted to a 2-door E36. There is no door frame to hold the clips in place. The 2-door model just has glass. The window glass is not going to provide a very secure clamping force. And the glass is not very strong. It would just be a matter of time before you broke your window glass and/or the clips pulled out. The windows on the 2-door E36 sort of lock in to the roof - they automatically drop about 1/2" when you open the door and then slide up after the door is closed. But they don't lock too securely. I know you can open and close the door very easily without the windows moving - just disconnect your battery and try it. Bottom line, even if Thule and Yakima's old "SST-Tower" racks could be made to fit a 2-door E36, I would not recommend it. The window glass holding the clips in place is a disaster waiting to happen. I'm an avid bicyclist and one of the key reasons I bought my M3 was I could fold the rear seat down and slide my bicycle inside. I think all 2-door M3's have folding rear seats so no reason to put a bike on top. The 4-door E36 is a totally different story. All the major bike racks fit it. It has steel door frames and the cross bars are able to be placed much farther apart. There is no problem putting a roof rack on 4-door models. Lowell Seaton '95 M3/2 numerous TREK bicycles -----Original Message----- From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:02:02 -0500 Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:10 -0700 From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks One more follow up / clarification post, as I seem to have created some confusion: * I have the old Y clips with my Yakima. The rack works on the e36 coupe, and has for years. It does not do anything with nipples or the door seal. * I do not have an e36 sedan. I have not been in close proximity to one with a roof rack. I can not state which rack parts would work there - you would be well advised to consult the manufacturer, not me. When I purchased the Y series clips, I could not find Q clips that would work. It sounds like, based on the email from Patrick in this thread, that the attachment points should be the same. If that is the case, then the Yakima sedan Q clips should work for the E36 coupe. On 6/16/05, J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: > The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. I think they > are "Y clips"... Anyway, I've got the clips and associated towers in > the rafters at home. They definitely work, but the parts are getting > harder to come by, as Yakima has been making the "Q" clips and towers > for at least a decade.
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#6. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Scott M
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Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:22:29 -0700 From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks On the 4-door M3, the clips do not go into the door frame at all - they attach to the nipples that are inside the weatherstripping along the roof line. So there are no clips into the door area at all. Someone said the coupes had the same little nipples? Not sure on that one.... 3 reasons I would want the bike on the roof: 1. going MTB when the bike gets filthy, rather not put it inside the car 2. going MTB on windy roads like hwy 9, a bike inside is flying around a bit 3. 2 people + 2 bikes - don't want to lay them on top of each other in the car But sure, probably 90% of the time inside the car would work for me. I guess for 2 people / bikes I take the SUV. And maybe tie the bike down inside for spirited mountain driving getting to the MTB trails. I am mostly a road rider, but on occasion like to go get dirty on the trails too. Scott on 6/16/05 10:46 PM, loweseaton@aol.com at loweseaton@aol.com wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:45:18 -0400 > From: loweseaton@aol.com > Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks > > I'm going to refute several things Patrick and Jim said - sorry guys. I own a > '95 U.S. model M3 2-door sedan. (Yes, sedan - technically the E36 2-door is a > sedan, not a coupe. Long time list member John Firestone can present a long > dissertation on this subject. In Europe, the 2-door models are called > "saloon" and the 4-doors are "limousine".) But for the purpose of fitting > roof top bike racks, all E36 2-doors are the same, including M3's; they have > the same roof and doors. > > I'm going to be absolute (which is usually bad to do) and say "there is no > roof top rack that fits a 2-door E36 model." I'll explain my reasons below. > But for sure, Patrick's "Q-Tower" Yakima rack will not fit all E36 models, > just 4-door E36 models, including the '97-'98 M3. Jim's older "SST-Tower" > Yakima rack might fit but I would not recommend it for frequent use or heavy > loads. And it sounds like Jim is heeding this advice by leaving it in his > attic for the last several years. > > Yakima did specify a fitment for the '92-'96 E36 2-door back in 1996 or so. I > remember looking it up when I first bought my M3 in February 1996. But as Jim > correctly states, Yakima began producing the "Q-Tower" version shortly > thereafter which replaced the older "SST-Towers." Yakima never approved use > of the "Q-Tower" for the E36 2-door, probably for good reason. Theoretically > I suppose, the "Q-Tower" should fit if the "SST-Tower" fit. They are > basically the same design. > > I'm not sure what Thule is up to. I'm a long time Yakima rack owner and snob > :-) , so I don't pay attention to Thule. I surfed their web site tonight and > it is inconclusive. On the pull down menu, Thule shows a fitment for the '97 > and '98 M3 but not the '95, '96, nor '99 M3 which are all the same. However, > when you go to list the rack model, it says "no roof top rack is available" > for the M3. But it does a show a fitment for the standard E36 2-door from '95 > to '99. The 2-door M3 is the same as any other 2-door E36 so if there is a > roof top rack for the standard model, the same one should fit the M3 as well. > Then the other inconsistency is there were 4-door M3 models in '97 and '98 > that most definitely should have available roof top racks but Thule doesn't > list them. Thule properly lists racks for the standard E36 4-door. Very > confusing and inconsistent. I think there is a typo in Thule's chart. I > would just be safe and say "don't try to use a Thule rack on any 2-door E36 > model." > > OK, so why no roof top rack for the 2-door E36? And this goes for Jim's old > "SST-Tower" model too. I think Yakima rightly had second thoughts about > fitting a roof top rack on the 2-door model and rescinded their approval. Two > reasons. First, due to the curved roof and short door opening, you can't get > the cross bars more than about 24" apart. That is really borderline for any > secure load support. You definitely would not want to carry more than a few > pounds - 50 lbs max - and it should be as close to the roof as possible. > Carrying a bike, two bikes certainly, would put a lot of strain on the front > cross bar trying to pull it up. The wind would catch the bike(s) and try to > pull the cross bar up. I believe Yakima recommended using their "extension > kit" to push the rear cross bar farther back on the roof even when they did > list the "SST-Tower" fitment for this reason. > > And that leads me to the second and biggest reason why no roof rack should be > mounted to a 2-door E36. There is no door frame to hold the clips in place. > The 2-door model just has glass. The window glass is not going to provide a > very secure clamping force. And the glass is not very strong. It would just > be a matter of time before you broke your window glass and/or the clips pulled > out. The windows on the 2-door E36 sort of lock in to the roof - they > automatically drop about 1/2" when you open the door and then slide up after > the door is closed. But they don't lock too securely. I know you can open > and close the door very easily without the windows moving - just disconnect > your battery and try it. > > Bottom line, even if Thule and Yakima's old "SST-Tower" racks could be made to > fit a 2-door E36, I would not recommend it. The window glass holding the > clips in place is a disaster waiting to happen. I'm an avid bicyclist and one > of the key reasons I bought my M3 was I could fold the rear seat down and > slide my bicycle inside. I think all 2-door M3's have folding rear seats so > no reason to put a bike on top. > > The 4-door E36 is a totally different story. All the major bike racks fit it. > It has steel door frames and the cross bars are able to be placed much farther > apart. There is no problem putting a roof rack on 4-door models. > > Lowell Seaton > '95 M3/2 > numerous TREK bicycles > > -----Original Message----- > From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:02:02 -0500 > Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks > > > Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:10 -0700 > From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks > > One more follow up / clarification post, as I seem to have created > some confusion: > > * I have the old Y clips with my Yakima. The rack works on the e36 > coupe, and has for years. It does not do anything with nipples or the > door seal. > > * I do not have an e36 sedan. I have not been in close proximity to > one with a roof rack. I can not state which rack parts would work > there - you would be well advised to consult the manufacturer, not me. > > When I purchased the Y series clips, I could not find Q clips that > would work. It sounds like, based on the email from Patrick in this > thread, that the attachment points should be the same. If that is the > case, then the Yakima sedan Q clips should work for the E36 coupe. > > > > On 6/16/05, J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: >> The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. I think they >> are "Y clips"... Anyway, I've got the clips and associated towers in >> the rafters at home. They definitely work, but the parts are getting >> harder to come by, as Yakima has been making the "Q" clips and towers >> for at least a decade. > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >
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#7. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from Carey Probst
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 05:47:26 -0400 From: Carey Probst <hcprobst@alum.mit.edu> Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks Been letting this one go for a long time but decided I may as well add my 2 cents. My solution has been to use the DaLan hitch for hauling a small trailer to the track. Now for bikes you could use one of the hitch mounted bike racks and eliminate the problem with the 2 door mounts and not have to worry about the dirt and grime on the inside of the car. You can also get a small hitch mounted tray to carry small light items that don't fit in the car. Carey Scott M wrote: >Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 23:22:29 -0700 >From: Scott M <smlists@pacbell.net> >Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks > > >On the 4-door M3, the clips do not go into the door frame at all - they >attach to the nipples that are inside the weatherstripping along the roof >line. So there are no clips into the door area at all. Someone said the >coupes had the same little nipples? Not sure on that one.... > >3 reasons I would want the bike on the roof: >1. going MTB when the bike gets filthy, rather not put it inside the car >2. going MTB on windy roads like hwy 9, a bike inside is flying around a bit >3. 2 people + 2 bikes - don't want to lay them on top of each other in the >car > >But sure, probably 90% of the time inside the car would work for me. I >guess for 2 people / bikes I take the SUV. And maybe tie the bike down >inside for spirited mountain driving getting to the MTB trails. I am mostly >a road rider, but on occasion like to go get dirty on the trails too. > >Scott > > >on 6/16/05 10:46 PM, loweseaton@aol.com at loweseaton@aol.com wrote: > > > >>Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 01:45:18 -0400 >>From: loweseaton@aol.com >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks >> >>I'm going to refute several things Patrick and Jim said - sorry guys. I own a >>'95 U.S. model M3 2-door sedan. (Yes, sedan - technically the E36 2-door is a >>sedan, not a coupe. Long time list member John Firestone can present a long >>dissertation on this subject. In Europe, the 2-door models are called >>"saloon" and the 4-doors are "limousine".) But for the purpose of fitting >>roof top bike racks, all E36 2-doors are the same, including M3's; they have >>the same roof and doors. >> >>I'm going to be absolute (which is usually bad to do) and say "there is no >>roof top rack that fits a 2-door E36 model." I'll explain my reasons below. >>But for sure, Patrick's "Q-Tower" Yakima rack will not fit all E36 models, >>just 4-door E36 models, including the '97-'98 M3. Jim's older "SST-Tower" >>Yakima rack might fit but I would not recommend it for frequent use or heavy >>loads. And it sounds like Jim is heeding this advice by leaving it in his >>attic for the last several years. >> >>Yakima did specify a fitment for the '92-'96 E36 2-door back in 1996 or so. I >>remember looking it up when I first bought my M3 in February 1996. But as Jim >>correctly states, Yakima began producing the "Q-Tower" version shortly >>thereafter which replaced the older "SST-Towers." Yakima never approved use >>of the "Q-Tower" for the E36 2-door, probably for good reason. Theoretically >>I suppose, the "Q-Tower" should fit if the "SST-Tower" fit. They are >>basically the same design. >> >>I'm not sure what Thule is up to. I'm a long time Yakima rack owner and snob >>:-) , so I don't pay attention to Thule. I surfed their web site tonight and >>it is inconclusive. On the pull down menu, Thule shows a fitment for the '97 >>and '98 M3 but not the '95, '96, nor '99 M3 which are all the same. However, >>when you go to list the rack model, it says "no roof top rack is available" >>for the M3. But it does a show a fitment for the standard E36 2-door from '95 >>to '99. The 2-door M3 is the same as any other 2-door E36 so if there is a >>roof top rack for the standard model, the same one should fit the M3 as well. >>Then the other inconsistency is there were 4-door M3 models in '97 and '98 >>that most definitely should have available roof top racks but Thule doesn't >>list them. Thule properly lists racks for the standard E36 4-door. Very >>confusing and inconsistent. I think there is a typo in Thule's chart. I >>would just be safe and say "don't try to use a Thule rack on any 2-door E36 >>model." >> >>OK, so why no roof top rack for the 2-door E36? And this goes for Jim's old >>"SST-Tower" model too. I think Yakima rightly had second thoughts about >>fitting a roof top rack on the 2-door model and rescinded their approval. Two >>reasons. First, due to the curved roof and short door opening, you can't get >>the cross bars more than about 24" apart. That is really borderline for any >>secure load support. You definitely would not want to carry more than a few >>pounds - 50 lbs max - and it should be as close to the roof as possible. >>Carrying a bike, two bikes certainly, would put a lot of strain on the front >>cross bar trying to pull it up. The wind would catch the bike(s) and try to >>pull the cross bar up. I believe Yakima recommended using their "extension >>kit" to push the rear cross bar farther back on the roof even when they did >>list the "SST-Tower" fitment for this reason. >> >>And that leads me to the second and biggest reason why no roof rack should be >>mounted to a 2-door E36. There is no door frame to hold the clips in place. >>The 2-door model just has glass. The window glass is not going to provide a >>very secure clamping force. And the glass is not very strong. It would just >>be a matter of time before you broke your window glass and/or the clips pulled >>out. The windows on the 2-door E36 sort of lock in to the roof - they >>automatically drop about 1/2" when you open the door and then slide up after >>the door is closed. But they don't lock too securely. I know you can open >>and close the door very easily without the windows moving - just disconnect >>your battery and try it. >> >>Bottom line, even if Thule and Yakima's old "SST-Tower" racks could be made to >>fit a 2-door E36, I would not recommend it. The window glass holding the >>clips in place is a disaster waiting to happen. I'm an avid bicyclist and one >>of the key reasons I bought my M3 was I could fold the rear seat down and >>slide my bicycle inside. I think all 2-door M3's have folding rear seats so >>no reason to put a bike on top. >> >>The 4-door E36 is a totally different story. All the major bike racks fit it. >>It has steel door frames and the cross bars are able to be placed much farther >>apart. There is no problem putting a roof rack on 4-door models. >> >>Lowell Seaton >>'95 M3/2 >>numerous TREK bicycles >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> >>To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> >>Sent: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 21:02:02 -0500 >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks >> >> >>Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 18:52:10 -0700 >>From: J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> >>Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks >> >>One more follow up / clarification post, as I seem to have created >>some confusion: >> >>* I have the old Y clips with my Yakima. The rack works on the e36 >>coupe, and has for years. It does not do anything with nipples or the >>door seal. >> >>* I do not have an e36 sedan. I have not been in close proximity to >>one with a roof rack. I can not state which rack parts would work >>there - you would be well advised to consult the manufacturer, not me. >> >>When I purchased the Y series clips, I could not find Q clips that >>would work. It sounds like, based on the email from Patrick in this >>thread, that the attachment points should be the same. If that is the >>case, then the Yakima sedan Q clips should work for the E36 coupe. >> >> >> >>On 6/16/05, J Files <jsf.online@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>The older style Yakima works with the 3 series coupe. I think they >>>are "Y clips"... Anyway, I've got the clips and associated towers in >>>the rafters at home. They definitely work, but the parts are getting >>>harder to come by, as Yakima has been making the "Q" clips and towers >>>for at least a decade. >>> >>> >>************************************************* >>Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: >> >>Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >>Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >>Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >>Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >>Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >>Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com >> >>DIGEST INFORMATION: >>http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >>************************************************* >> >> >> >> > > > >************************************************* >Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > >Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com >Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com >Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com >Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com >Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com >Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > >DIGEST INFORMATION: >http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm >************************************************* > > > > >
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#8. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from GGray657@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 09:25:48 EDT From: GGray657@aol.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks In a message dated 6/17/2005 1:26:40 AM Central Standard Time, smlists@pacbell.net writes: 3 reasons I would want the bike on the roof: 1. going MTB when the bike gets filthy, rather not put it inside the car 2. going MTB on windy roads like hwy 9, a bike inside is flying around a bit 3. 2 people + 2 bikes - don't want to lay them on top of each other in the car Since we're on bike racks! I personally do not like roof racks...Been there done them after 20 years of riding and racing both road and MTB's... Why. 1. You can actually drop a fork leg right onto the roof and put a nice dent/scratch, ask me how I know... 2. They KILL your fuel economy if you have two bikes and all the gear for a week end adventure, once again ask me how I know.. 3. You can destroy the bike, your garage or a banks door/roof....Brain fade after a long ride or the normal DUPP I forgot they were up there....I have not done it but have fixed many a roof rack due to this.....A few destroyed the roof of the car and the car had to have major surgery one guy had to actually have an entire roof skin replaced on a 2001 VW jetta... 4. Do you really want a dirty nasty MTB on your roof dropping mud and dirt all over the place...I don't.. What I like....Trailer hitch racks.... Why. 1. You don't have to blow your back, or other body parts out, lifting a bike up onto the roof while attempting to balance it in your hands and get it in the proper spot... 2. On the back the bike is out of the wind/ bugs/airstream..and you get, better fuel mileage and less bug guts on your ride.... 3. You have a trailer hitch and can actually buy a small trailer if you want one to haul other crap in...Like all your track day gear, track tires, pop up tent, tool box, big cooler chairs...etc..and the crap is not packed into your car like like sardine's. 4. You can take it off so you don't look like a dork riding around in your M3 with a roof rack...Personal opinion...I hate a nice car with a rack on the roof...Might be the fact I have put a LOT of style point racks on for people who pay more for the dam rack then the bike is worth..My first rule if the bike cost less than the rack, you may need a new bike before you buy a roof rack... The only negative is if you get whacked from the rear but the chances of that happening are about the same of taking out the bike on the roof. I have had my bike on the back for ten years and never had any problems. And I have a trailer to go pull small crap around that folds up and can be stored in the garage. Just some observations from a bike shop owner/old time cyclist... Thanks, Gary Gray Pro Bike/Pro Bike Cycling Team
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#9. RE: Front control arm replacement cost - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 07:23:58 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: RE: Front control arm replacement cost I'd say that 5 hrs is probably 'book' time based on what has to be done. Having a lift and _all_ the proper tools is what we have to pay for when we have it done by a shop, plus pay for a roof, lights, coffee, etc., etc.. While $780 sounds like a lot that much and more is usually charged for an 'Inspection II' that requires a lot less intensive labor and fewer specialized model specific tools. As we have learned 'dealers' are far more expensive than 'indies', usually, but then they do have a fancy-smancy-plug-into-your-car-computer when required for complicated diagnostics. "Indies' generally have a shorter food chain to feed and therefore are less expensive. KLB -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:33:02 -0400 From: "Michael, Dave" <Dave_Michael@maxtor.com> Folks - So my car was at the dealer for some minor work a few weeks ago, and on the work order they wrote that I needed both front ball joints replaced. Estimated cost - $1065.00. Figuring that was way too much, I researched the part cost and found that control arms could be had for no more than $180.00 each. So I instead took the car to a local independent BMW specialist. His part cost was reasonable, but he still charged 5 hours labor. Is that really what it takes? Total cost was $780.00...... Anyways, I have that slightly odd feeling that something smells a little, but I can't tell if its real or if I am imagining things. Opinions welcome. Thanks! Dave 98 m3/4
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#10. Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks - from arionatof@comcast.net
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Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 15:15:45 +0000 From: arionatof@comcast.net Subject: Re: [E36M3] speaking of bike racks I bike regularly and I used a $40 6-pt X-Sport trunk mounted rack bought from Performance. It fits securely and I haven't had anyproblems wit it yet. Johnny 98 M3/4 -> 100k!! -- mailto:mclee@ieee.org