E36M3 #4359

Wednesday, July 06, 2005 15:08:13

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: I Stock Spring Option - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
#2. Climate Control -- my turn... - from scott noltensmeier
#3. Lowering versus toe alignment - from Burgess, Kim L
#4. was I-Stock, now Club Racing - from Alan Leung
#5. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... - from Andrej Dolenc
#6. Re: [E36M3] Lowering versus toe alignment - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
#7. Re: [E36M3] was I-Stock, now Club Racing - from Mark Dadgar
#8. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... - from Jim Bassett
#9. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... - from Chester Wong
#10. Re: [E36M3] was I-Stock, now Club Racing - from Jim Bassett

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: I Stock Spring Option - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:25:35 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: I Stock Spring Option >120N F, 140N R on the Group N kit that's on the 325is. That's 685lb F, >800lb R. Actually I was referring to their H-stock/I-stock setup, not Grp N. You have coilover springs with the Grp N setup, the Turner stock package uses springs like the normal beehive shaped ones. >Yep (you should have seen me trying to figure out how to get a stock set >of F struts on the car when I pulled the Bilstein's for rebuilding :-)) :-) > If I went with the Turner suspension I'd probably give up driving the car > on the street. >Wuss :-) The Turner stock class stuff (guessing) is probably stiffer than the Grp N stuff you have. So back at ya! I will probably also drive the car to and from events at least for starters, that's why I chose prepared (the suspension bits anyway) so I can run the car with a compromised setup if I need to. Carlos.

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#2. Climate Control -- my turn... - from scott noltensmeier
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:28:42 -0700 (PDT) From: scott noltensmeier <snoltens@yahoo.com> Subject: Climate Control -- my turn... My Climate Control unit just went out/has no display. Fuses look ok. Should I just go ahead and do the fix? - http://www.macadamizer.com/bmwfix.html Any BKM's??? Thanks, Scott E36M3 96' 2d

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#3. Lowering versus toe alignment - from Burgess, Kim L
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:36:32 -0700 From: "Burgess, Kim L" <kim.l.burgess@boeing.com> Subject: Lowering versus toe alignment Simple reasoning tells me lowering just the front causes toe-in. Lowering just the rear causes toe-out. I do recall TCKline tell a group of us here in Seattle (actually Auburn) that lowering the car (front and rear equally or nearly equally) does not change the toe however changing camber does impact toe. KLBurgess -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 11:16:28 -0700 From: Rex Tener <rex_tener@yahoo.com> Subject: Lowering versus toe alignment I searched the archives, but I couldn't seem to find the answer. As I lower the front of the car the front wheels toe in or out? As I lower the rear of the car the rear wheels toe in or out? Along that line of questioning anyone have an idea of what the motion ratios are for ride height versus toe for front and rear? Thanks, -- Rex Tener rex_tener@yahoo.com 1996 BMW M3, SCCA SFR Solo STU #73

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#4. was I-Stock, now Club Racing - from Alan Leung
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Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:46:22 -0500 From: "Alan Leung" <alanleung100@hotmail.com> Subject: was I-Stock, now Club Racing <html><div style='background-color:'><DIV class=RTE> <P>Coincidently I was also toying with the idea of slowly converting my 95 M3 into a club car and I'm glad to see someone asking questions here.  I can read about the rules in the bmwccaclubracing site but what I'm more interested in is what the bmwcca racing scene is like.  For example I'd never know that it may make more sense to go straight to Prepared instead of starting from Stock.  Is there any good resource on budget, maintenance, typical do's and don'ts when thinking about getting into racing?  </P> <P>Alan<BR><BR></P></DIV></div></html>

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... - from Andrej Dolenc
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:50:42 -0400 From: Andrej Dolenc <adolenc@erols.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... When my climate control went out, my feet were getting roasted with hot air. Performing this fix restored things back to normal. It's a known failure point, and it's cheap to do if you have soldering skills (or friends with 'em), so I'd say go for it. Andrej '97 M3 scott noltensmeier <snoltens@yahoo.com> wrote: > My Climate Control unit just went out/has no display. > Fuses look ok. > Should I just go ahead and do the fix? > - http://www.macadamizer.com/bmwfix.html > Any BKM's??? > Thanks, Scott E36M3 96' 2d

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Lowering versus toe alignment - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 15:53:19 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: Re: [E36M3] Lowering versus toe alignment >Simple reasoning tells me lowering just the front causes toe-in. Why? Experience tells me otherwise, as you lower the front, the tires toe out. >I do recall TCKline tell a group of us here in Seattle (actually Auburn) >that lowering the car (front and rear equally or nearly equally) does >not change the toe however changing camber does impact toe. I would respectfully disagree, both lowering and changing camber _both_ affect toe. However since I believe T.C. understands this his front camber plates are made with geometry such that they're only camber plates. So you can slam them one way or the other (max and min negative camber) and they won't change your toe (no idea what happens to caster but I would think if it changes it is minimal). As far as I know his plates are probably the only ones that can do that. The slots don't just go side to side like most plates, they travel diagonally. Maybe the Turner ones can do that as well but I somehow doubt it. Carlos.

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#7. Re: [E36M3] was I-Stock, now Club Racing - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:52:05 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] was I-Stock, now Club Racing On Jul 6, 2005, at 12:47 PM, Alan Leung wrote: > Is there any good resource on budget, maintenance, typical do's and > don'ts when thinking about getting into racing? Think carefully about what you want to accomplish, who you want to race with, what kind of car you want to have, and how much time you want to dedicate to it. Sit down and put together a spreadsheet that accounts for things like bringing the car up to spec maintenance- wise, adding the go-fast parts you'll need to make the car competitive, purchasing the safety equipment required to protect yourself, getting some coaching for the driver, replacing consumables on the car, paying for gas, hotel, race entries, and the like. This will give you a detailed budget for this endeavor. Then triple it. - Mark E36 325is JP #117 money pit ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:53:59 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... On Wed, July 6, 2005 12:37 pm, scott noltensmeier said: > My Climate Control unit just went out/has no display. Lucky. Mine failed blowing HOT air at full fan speed. Not pleasant :-) > Fuses look ok. > > Should I just go ahead and do the fix? > > - http://www.macadamizer.com/bmwfix.html Yes. > Any BKM's??? ?? Jim Bassett

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 12:59:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Climate Control -- my turn... --- Jim Bassett <jim@jimbassett.com> wrote: > > Any BKM's??? > > ?? > > Jim Bassett Just a WAG, but Big Knowledgeable MartherFarkers?

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#10. Re: [E36M3] was I-Stock, now Club Racing - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:04:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] was I-Stock, now Club Racing On Wed, July 6, 2005 12:47 pm, Alan Leung said: > For example I'd > never know that it may make more sense to go straight to Prepared instead > of starting from Stock. It may, or it may not. There's no hard & fast rule. IMO. > Is there any good resource on budget, Bwhahaha! No matter how much you *think* you'll spend, you'll spend more. > maintenance Replace everything....every year :-) Be prepared for stuff you previously thought "unbreakable" to break. > typical do's and don'ts when thinking about getting into > racing? Well, not so much a "do and don't" item, but more of a tip on preparing yourself and your expectations. I believe MarkD said it best (paraphrasing as best I can :-)): "When people say racing is entirely different from drivers schools, what they really mean is RACING IS ENTIRELY DIFFERENT FROM DRIVERS SCHOOLS." Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - briefly thought about becoming a race car 1993 325is #44 JP - bought already set up & raced by PO

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