E36M3 #4363

Thursday, July 07, 2005 16:28:06

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#1. Re: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Jim Bassett
#2. RE: [E36M3] AC cold only when moving - from Don Eilenberger
#3. RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
#4. RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#5. RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Jim Bassett
#6. Crank Position Sensor issues - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#7. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#8. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Chester Wong
#9. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Ahmad Lutfeali
#10. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Chester Wong

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#1. Re: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 11:37:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option On Thu, July 7, 2005 11:17 am, Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com said: > Which now confuses me because Jim B. says he switched his springs > to beehive shaped ones (I refer to the stock ones as beehives) and that's > impossible with Grp N Bilsteins (no stock spring perch) (???) > Jim please 'splain... :-) Sorry, I was referring to the rear springs only. Jim Bassett

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#2. RE: [E36M3]  AC cold only when moving - from Don Eilenberger
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Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 15:27:07 -0400 From: Don Eilenberger <deilenberger@verizon.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] AC cold only when moving Dave sweating asked: >My 95's AC blows cold air only when it's moving. When >it's stopped, it delivers copious amounts of hot air - >not pleasant in these mid-90s days. Would someone >please point me in the direction of a cure? > >Dave Dave - is your auxiliary fan in front of the AC condenser working? It should turn on whenever the AC is turned on. Don Eilenberger, AKA SquidBOOF, Spring Lk Hts, NJ JMP#1 FOT2.A deilenberger@verizon.net NJ Shore BMW Riders web page: http://www.njsbmwr.org/ Moderator - BMW E39 Enthusiasts: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/bmwe39 "One should do the stuff that makes you smile" - Ulf Bertilsson Hence: 1998 M3 convertible, 2003 5-touring, 1987 K75S

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#3. RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 15:50:12 -0400 From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option >Turner = Bilsteins with Group N or G stock springs for I Stock setup. >Bimmeworld = (I swear I saw these on their website a while back) D/A Shocks >with their proprietary springs for I Stock (eliminates the need to run >aftermarket sway bars). >Geoff ran I Stock and lives in Boston. Okee-doke. I understand now, Geoff in I-stock, Bimmerworld had/has an I-stock setup. **But, Group N Bilsteins are a strut much like a Bilstein sport but the strut has threads on it and no spring seat (unlike the Bilstein sports). They wouldn't be legal in stock because they require a coilover spring. Actually they're technically not legal in ITS either as the strut is threaded, unlike a GC one where the threaded collar is a sleeve over the strut (ITS legal). OK my head hurts from thinking about this stuff what was the original question? :-P -Carlos.

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#4. RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:08:36 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option OK my head hurts from thinking about this stuff what was the original question? :-P Where can I get springs for I Stock class (vendor list). That's all :P Ahmad -----Original Message----- From: Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com [mailto:Carlos.F.Lopez@jci.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 3:50 PM To: m3_racer99@hotmail.com Cc: e36m3@bmw-m.net Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option >Turner = Bilsteins with Group N or G stock springs for I Stock setup. >Bimmeworld = (I swear I saw these on their website a while back) D/A Shocks >with their proprietary springs for I Stock (eliminates the need to run >aftermarket sway bars). >Geoff ran I Stock and lives in Boston. Okee-doke. I understand now, Geoff in I-stock, Bimmerworld had/has an I-stock setup. **But, Group N Bilsteins are a strut much like a Bilstein sport but the strut has threads on it and no spring seat (unlike the Bilstein sports). They wouldn't be legal in stock because they require a coilover spring. Actually they're technically not legal in ITS either as the strut is threaded, unlike a GC one where the threaded collar is a sleeve over the strut (ITS legal). OK my head hurts from thinking about this stuff what was the original question? :-P -Carlos.

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#5. RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:23:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] RE: I Stock Spring Option On Thu, July 7, 2005 1:17 pm, Ahmad Lutfeali said: > Where can I get springs for I Stock class (vendor list). That's all :P Gee, just off the top of my head: Turner and BimmerWorld? :-) Jim Bassett - list smarta$$ P.S. OK, seriously, you're looking for stock replacement springs right? I know H&R make 'em, and the first vendor that comes to mind for H&R springs is Turner (gee, having it plastered on the hood of their race cars for how many years really DID pay off :-)). And I would suspect that since BW does a lot of race stuff they would also be a good source.

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#6. Crank Position Sensor issues - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:23:54 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: Crank Position Sensor issues Folks, Over the last two years. I had my crank position sensor go bad on me twice. I removed the URI Crank Pulley (car is being converted to an I Stocker) and put back the stock crank pulley along with a brand new one. Car ran like cr_p (hard sputtering) and would go into a limp mode. Then it came back to life and drove fine. This morning, again it was acting funny. Check engine light came on and it reads crank position sensor again. It has the harness put in by the dealer under the recall and this new sensor is only 1 week old. I know that once the CPS goes bad, the car run like cr_p period. This time, it ran perfectly fine for a whole week before acting moody. Another code I got was Flywheel adaption segment timing faulty. Any ideas what's going on? This is driving me nuts. Since the car went on limp mode a couple of months back. It destroyed the 02 sensors and the car (too lean). The car was replaced under warranty but I had to replace the 02 sensors. Hope I am not going the money pit route :( Thanks in advance. Ahmad

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:41:04 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues Oops, Meant to say Cats :) -----Original Message----- From: Hans Batra [mailto:hansbatra@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:29 PM To: Ahmad Lutfeali Subject: Re: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues Ahmad, Sorry to hear the Jekyll/Hyde routine you're car is pulling on you. :-( I'm sure the listers will pick up on this, but you meant to say "cat", not "car" in your last paragraph. ;-) Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:27 PM Subject: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues > Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:23:54 -0400 > From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> > Subject: Crank Position Sensor issues > > Folks, > > Over the last two years. I had my crank position sensor go bad on me twice. > I removed the URI Crank Pulley (car is being converted to an I > Stocker) and > put back the stock crank pulley along with a brand new one. Car ran > like cr_p (hard sputtering) and would go into a limp mode. Then it > came back to life and drove fine. This morning, again it was acting > funny. Check engine light came on and it reads crank position sensor > again. It has the harness put in by the dealer under the recall and > this new sensor is only 1 week old. I know that once the CPS goes bad, > the car run like cr_p period. This time, it ran perfectly fine for a > whole week before acting moody. Another code I got was Flywheel > adaption segment timing faulty. Any ideas what's going on? > > This is driving me nuts. Since the car went on limp mode a couple of months > back. It destroyed the 02 sensors and the car (too lean). The car was > replaced under warranty but I had to replace the 02 sensors. Hope I am > not going the money pit route :( > > Thanks in advance. > > Ahmad > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > >

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#8. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:53:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues Cheap check: Make sure the mass air flow sensor is clean. I think you can shoot brake clean to clean it, though some say that once it's gone, it's gone...then it's not so cheap Other thing: knock sensor gone south? Just off the top of my head. Chester --- Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > > put back the stock crank pulley along with a brand new one. Car ran > > like cr_p (hard sputtering) and would go into a limp mode. Then it > > came back to life and drove fine. This morning, again it was acting > > funny. Check engine light came on and it reads crank position sensor > > again. It has the harness put in by the dealer under the recall and > > this new sensor is only 1 week old. I know that once the CPS goes bad, > > the car run like cr_p period. This time, it ran perfectly fine for a > > whole week before acting moody. Another code I got was Flywheel > > adaption segment timing faulty. Any ideas what's going on? > > > > This is driving me nuts. Since the car went on limp mode a couple of > months > > back. It destroyed the 02 sensors and the car (too lean). The car was > > replaced under warranty but I had to replace the 02 sensors. Hope I am > > not going the money pit route :(

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#9. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Ahmad Lutfeali
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 17:14:18 -0400 From: "Ahmad Lutfeali" <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues Chester, What's the correlation between MAF Sensor and CPS? Why would it set off the CPS? Funny because the MAF sensor check code came up this afternoon when I checked it Ahmad (getting excited now that the puzzle seems to fit) -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 4:53 PM To: Ahmad Lutfeali; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues Cheap check: Make sure the mass air flow sensor is clean. I think you can shoot brake clean to clean it, though some say that once it's gone, it's gone...then it's not so cheap Other thing: knock sensor gone south? Just off the top of my head. Chester --- Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > > put back the stock crank pulley along with a brand new one. Car ran > > like cr_p (hard sputtering) and would go into a limp mode. Then it > > came back to life and drove fine. This morning, again it was acting > > funny. Check engine light came on and it reads crank position sensor > > again. It has the harness put in by the dealer under the recall and > > this new sensor is only 1 week old. I know that once the CPS goes bad, > > the car run like cr_p period. This time, it ran perfectly fine for a > > whole week before acting moody. Another code I got was Flywheel > > adaption segment timing faulty. Any ideas what's going on? > > > > This is driving me nuts. Since the car went on limp mode a couple of > months > > back. It destroyed the 02 sensors and the car (too lean). The car > > was > > replaced under warranty but I had to replace the 02 sensors. Hope I am > > not going the money pit route :(

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues - from Chester Wong
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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 14:21:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Crank Position Sensor issues Not sure, but I find it hard to believe that a new CPS would go bad. So...from a crappy running engine perspective, you are restricted to: - bad coil - vacuum leak - bad knock sensor - dirty MAF - bad gas The cheapest thing to check is the MAF :) That's why I suggested it :) Those with the K&N/ITG type filters where you have to oil them are especially susceptible to screwing up the MAF. Chester --- Ahmad Lutfeali <m3_racer99@hotmail.com> wrote: > What's the correlation between MAF Sensor and CPS? Why would it set off the > CPS? > Funny because the MAF sensor check code came up this afternoon when I > checked it > > Ahmad (getting excited now that the puzzle seems to fit)

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