E36M3 #4381

Monday, July 18, 2005 14:53:53

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#1. DTC P0133 and P0153 - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
#2. Oil sump baffle kits - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
#3. Heat shield question - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
#4. Flare nut wrenches - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
#5. Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts - from Jamie Howton
#6. Re: [E36M3] Oil sump baffle kits - from Mark Dadgar
#7. Re: [E36M3] Heat shield question - from Chester Wong
#8. Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts - from Chester Wong
#9. Re: [E36M3] Flare nut wrenches - from Chester Wong
#10. Re: [E36M3] High beam and fog lights not working? - from Kent L. Shephard
#11. Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts - from Jim Bassett

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#1. DTC P0133 and P0153 - from Graeme Weston-Lewis
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 13:23:07 -0600 From: "Graeme Weston-Lewis" <gweston@lsil.com> Subject: DTC P0133 and P0153 "02 Sensor Circuit Slow Response, Bank 1, Sensor 1" (and Bank 2, Sensor 1). I had the P0133 back in January. I reset it and it has stayed away until Saturday. Interestingly enough, both times, this has happened, the car was up to full operating temps and I was simply cruising down the freeway at around 70mph. Any clues as to what might be causing this? Car has 87,000 miles. TIA, Graeme

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#2. Oil sump baffle kits - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:25:18 +0000 From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net Subject: Oil sump baffle kits Group, I'm going to be doing some fairly comprehensive R&Rs on my 97 soon. One part will include removing the oil sump to safety wire the oil-pump sprocket nut. At that time I would also like to baffle the sump. Which brings me to my question(s): What is the group consensus on a proper baffle kit? I know there are solutions by Turner Motorsport and VAC Motorsports. What are the thoughts on these? The VACMS kit seems to be of higher quality than the TMS kit for the same price. Are there any other solutions available? I know I could upgrade to the M3 GT/LTW oil sump, but this seems to be cost prohibitive. Also, any BTDTs? Thanks in advance, Jeremy Conners 97 M3

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#3. Heat shield question - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:29:17 +0000 From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net Subject: Heat shield question Group, Here's another question: the large heat shield that separates the cat-back from the prop shaft has degraded in the mounting area such that some mounting bolts and washers have pulled-through. I could fix this buy using fender washers or by procuring a new shield, but what are the thoughts on removing the shield entirely. Has anyone thought about / done this before? I'm sure most of you racers remove this part. Thanks in advance, Jeremy Conners 97 M3

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#4. Flare nut wrenches - from jeremy.conners@comcast.net
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:35:42 +0000 From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net Subject: Flare nut wrenches One more... Group, I have new stainless brake / clutch line(s) to put on the car. I've measured the new lines and know that I will need an 11 mm, 14 mm, 11/16 in flare nut wrenches for them. Does anyone know if these are the same required sizes to remove the OE parts? I just want to avoid surprises. I know some of these fittings are a real PITA, so I will be sure to use plenty of penetrating oil and wait for at least a six-pack before attempting removal <BFG>. BTW with all these R&Rs that I'm planning, does anyone want to relocate to Detroit metro to hand me beers? Jim B? Neil? Thanks again, Jeremy Conners 97 M3

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#5. Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts - from Jamie Howton
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:36:34 -0500 From: Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts I recently installed Urethane motor mounts in my E36 I bought them from Ireland Engineering. They seem sturdy enough and did increase NVH nominally, but my car is pretty much a track only car and has spherical steel bushings throughout the suspension so it's a pretty solid ride already. The only reason for installing them in a street car that I can see is if they are less expensive than the stock mounts. I don't know what the stock ones go for but the Ireland ones are $50 each. Regards Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Oil sump baffle kits - from Mark Dadgar
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:42:28 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <mark@pdc-racing.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Oil sump baffle kits On Jul 18, 2005, at 12:33 PM, jeremy.conners@comcast.net wrote: > I'm going to be doing some fairly comprehensive R&Rs on my 97 > soon. One part will include removing the oil sump to safety wire > the oil-pump sprocket nut. At that time I would also like to > baffle the sump. Which brings me to my question(s): What is the > group consensus on a proper baffle kit? I know there are solutions > by Turner Motorsport and VAC Motorsports. What are the thoughts on > these? The VACMS kit seems to be of higher quality than the TMS > kit for the same price. Are there any other solutions available? > I know I could upgrade to the M3 GT/LTW oil sump, but this seems to > be cost prohibitive. > > Also, any BTDTs? I have the Turner kit in my E36 325is race car and it is effective. For example, oil pressure runs around 50 PSI at all locations around Thunderhill except turns 5 and 11. It briefly drops to around 25 PSI at the crest of 5 and under braking at Turn 11 (verified with the AIM data system I put in the car recently). Previously, I had a large low oil pressure light with a 30 PSI sender and I saw flickers at many more places on the track. The expense is in the installation labor on an E36, notably because you have to drop the front subframe to get the oil pan out. So buy the baffle setup you feel best about. I'm very happy with the Turner piece, given that I got it used but never installed for about 50% of retail, but Bimmerworld and VAC would have been excellent choices as well. Give Bimmerworld and Turner a call first. They are list sponsors. - Mark ----- mark@pdc-racing.net Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar

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#7. Re: [E36M3] Heat shield question - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:45:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Heat shield question Are you talking about the insulation that lines the tranny tunnel that always bends downwards and starts to polish the driveshaft? If so, I just cut a piece of sheet metal and looped it over the shift lever carrier and put the two ends into posts that were sticking out and received factory plastic nuts, etc. Chester --- jeremy.conners@comcast.net wrote: > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:29:17 +0000 > From: jeremy.conners@comcast.net > Subject: Heat shield question > > Group, > > Here's another question: the large heat shield that separates the cat-back > from the prop shaft has degraded in the mounting area such that some mounting > bolts and washers have pulled-through. I could fix this buy using fender > washers or by procuring a new shield, but what are the thoughts on removing > the shield entirely. Has anyone thought about / done this before? I'm sure > most of you racers remove this part. > > Thanks in advance, > Jeremy Conners > 97 M3 > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#8. Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:46:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts I agree. At least from bimmerworld.com, the OE mounts are $50 each as well. Chester --- Jamie Howton <jhowton@gmail.com> wrote: > solid ride already. The only reason for installing them in a street > car that I can see is if they are less expensive than the stock > mounts. I don't know what the stock ones go for but the Ireland ones > are $50 each.

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#9. Re: [E36M3] Flare nut wrenches - from Chester Wong
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:47:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Flare nut wrenches I've used the Sears flare nut wrench set with no problems for the past few years...never had a need for another wrench, etc. Chester --- jeremy.conners@comcast.net wrote: > I have new stainless brake / clutch line(s) to put on the car. I've measured > the new lines and know that I will need an 11 mm, 14 mm, 11/16 in flare nut > wrenches for them. Does anyone know if these are the same required sizes to > remove the OE parts? I just want to avoid surprises. I know some of these > fittings are a real PITA, so I will be sure to use plenty of penetrating oil > and wait for at least a six-pack before attempting removal <BFG>. > > BTW with all these R&Rs that I'm planning, does anyone want to relocate to > Detroit metro to hand me beers? Jim B? Neil?

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#10. Re: [E36M3] High beam and fog lights not working? - from Kent L. Shephard
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:50:38 -0700 (PDT) From: "Kent L. Shephard" <kents@kls-consulting.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] High beam and fog lights not working? Hi, I know it sounds silly. Replace the fuses. Blade type fuses can fail and give no visible indication. Been there, done that. Kent > Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:26:49 -0700 > From: Peter Fanning <pbfanning@comcast.net> > Subject: High beam and fog lights not working? > > Now that BMW has a couple years running Mini the Prince of Darkness must > be > after all BMW's. I've had ZKW headlights in the '98 M3/4 for a couple > years. Both low beam bulbs blew in the last few days. > > I've swapped the high beam bulbs into the low beams while I wait for > replacement Osram H1 bulbs. For some unknown reason now the high beams > (installed old H1 bulbs from old broken fog lights) and the fog lights > don't work. I checked the connections and they appear to be good. I > checked the fuses and they appear to be good. I even swapped the high and > low beam relays, no difference. Everything worked fine before the low > beams blew. The fog lights and high beams worked when the first low beam > blew. > > Any ideas on what to check next? Maybe I missed something when I looked > over everything? Thanks for any insight the group can provide. > > Peter Fanning > '95 318ti > '98 M3/4 > '03 530i > > > > ************************************************* > Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: > > Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com > Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com > Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com > Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com > Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com > Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com > > DIGEST INFORMATION: > http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm > ************************************************* > > >

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#11. Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 12:50:44 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jim Bassett" <jim@jimbassett.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Engine mounts On Mon, July 18, 2005 12:22 pm, jeremy.conners@comcast.net said: > I'm going to be doing some fairly comprehensive R&Rs on my 97 soon. One > part will include removing the oil sump to safety wire the oil-pump > sprocket nut. At that time I would also like to replace / upgrade the > engine mounts. Which brings me to my question(s): What is the group > consensus on replacing these with the factory parts? I've replaced the mounts on both cars with stock mounts. No problems. Additionally, you might want to consider the front subframe reinforcements from Turner. Welding is required, but a good preventative measure. Again, both cars have this done. My 2 cents, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP

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