E36M3 #4410

Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:40:00

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... - from Townsend, William
#2. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Patrick Goss - PA
#3. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Chester Wong
#4. RE: [E36M3] window tint - from twisty M3
#5. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Patrick Goss - PA
#6. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Chester Wong
#7. RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... - from Patrick Goss - PA
#8. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Patrick Goss - PA
#9. RE: [E36M3] window tint - from Robert Chay
#10. RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... - from Townsend, William

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... - from Townsend, William
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:40:48 -0400 From: "Townsend, William" <wtownsen@enterasys.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... The gauge does both caster and camber. Has both scales on read out too. I zeroed it with a 6' level before using it. --Bill >-------------------- 7 -------------------- >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:43:35 -0500 >From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... > >Doesn't the speedmarx gauge measure castor, perhaps something is messed >up there.

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#2. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 10:42:33 -0500 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice Yes, # 3 actually, and if they don't wear, why or what did you replace that you called a ball joint? It would be nice if you could just replace the boot.... -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 10:59 AM To: Patrick Goss - PA; E36M3 Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > If you are calling the ball joint the point where the oem lower stamped > steel arm connects precisely below where the drive shaft enters the > knuckle then yes, what I am calling a bushing = your ball joint. > > If I can push, melt or curse this one out while on the car, then I'll > consider pushing something aftermarket it there. If not I may honestly > just leave it in for the time being and button things back up until a > later time... Not sure why you'd put anything aftermarket in there as the factory ball joints seem to be high quality items that don't wear and don't have any slop or compliance. They are also sealed with the rubber boots...that's something that doesn't happen with any of those cheap monoball/heim joint/ball joint aftermarket options....which is primarily the reason why they fail so quickly. You're talking about items #2 and #3 in the following diagram, correct? http://tinyurl.com/dxd44 Chester

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#3. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 08:44:53 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice Well, #2 and #3 are the same part number. Why did I replace it? Well, a) I destroyed it while extracting the seized eccentric bolt and b) they wear ever so slightly and that was at 110K miles! The typical life span of some of those aftermarket parts is sometimes 5k miles or less... Chester --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > Yes, # 3 actually, and if they don't wear, why or what did you replace > that you called a ball joint? It would be nice if you could just > replace the boot....

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#4. RE: [E36M3] window tint - from twisty M3
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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 08:50:50 -0700 From: "twisty M3" <twistym3@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] window tint <br><br><br>----Original Message Follows---- << http://members.roadfly.com/clopez95m3/side_shot_of_98_M3_w_Koseis.jpg<br><br>I like the tint especially on a silver car, I roll down the windows if I<br>know I'll be passing a cop otherwise I don't worry about it. >> This is mine from bmw-m.net: http://www.bmw-m.net/Gallery/e36gallery/m3-76.jpg Same tint as Bobby's car, minus the windshield. You can also just open the sunroof on a sunny day, and that will make the tint much less obvious. Jonathan L.

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#5. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:10:24 -0500 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice It seems I might be in the same boat with a 97 having 92K, and with requiring extraction of same said bolt. I might try drilling it out first thou... -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:45 AM To: Patrick Goss - PA; E36M3 Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice Well, #2 and #3 are the same part number. Why did I replace it? Well, a) I destroyed it while extracting the seized eccentric bolt and b) they wear ever so slightly and that was at 110K miles! The typical life span of some of those aftermarket parts is sometimes 5k miles or less... Chester --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > Yes, # 3 actually, and if they don't wear, why or what did you replace > that you called a ball joint? It would be nice if you could just > replace the boot....

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#6. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:11:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice Drilling what out? The eccentric bolt? I wouldn't do that. You probably won't drill perfectly concentrically to preserve the ball joint. Also, the bolt is probably badly rusted and pitted and likewise, the inside of the metal shaft of the ball joint is equally bad. The ball joints aren't that expensive and you should be able to extract it without too much hassel. Chester --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > It seems I might be in the same boat with a 97 having 92K, and with > requiring extraction of same said bolt. I might try drilling it out > first thou...

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#7. RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:13:46 -0500 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... I thought so, and I think that's the same gauge I have too. Not sure if you remember my posts from a month or so ago, but my right side upper strut plate was incorrectly installed, such that caster was way off, and well that tire was wearing on the inside...and no toe was fine at the time..... Just a reference -----Original Message----- From: Townsend, William [mailto:wtownsen@enterasys.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:49 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:40:48 -0400 From: "Townsend, William" <wtownsen@enterasys.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... The gauge does both caster and camber. Has both scales on read out too. I zeroed it with a 6' level before using it. --Bill >-------------------- 7 -------------------- >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:43:35 -0500 >From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... > >Doesn't the speedmarx gauge measure castor, perhaps something is messed >up there. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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#8. RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice - from Patrick Goss - PA
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:17:32 -0500 From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice That said, has anyone removed the below mentioned ball joint from knuckle while in car. How about replacement? Please say yes, and better yet offer some tips/secrets! -----Original Message----- From: Chester Wong [mailto:chester_p_wong@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:11 PM To: Patrick Goss - PA; E36M3 Subject: RE: UPDATE - RE: [E36M3] WTB RR lower control arm; need advice; cry for help and advice Drilling what out? The eccentric bolt? I wouldn't do that. You probably won't drill perfectly concentrically to preserve the ball joint. Also, the bolt is probably badly rusted and pitted and likewise, the inside of the metal shaft of the ball joint is equally bad. The ball joints aren't that expensive and you should be able to extract it without too much hassel. Chester --- Patrick Goss - PA <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> wrote: > It seems I might be in the same boat with a 97 having 92K, and with > requiring extraction of same said bolt. I might try drilling it out > first thou...

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#9. RE: [E36M3] window tint - from Robert Chay
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:25:51 -0400 From: "Robert Chay" <lists@rchay.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] window tint Looks good! BTW, it's Carlos' car now :-(. -Bobby -----Original Message----- From: twisty M3 This is mine from bmw-m.net: http://www.bmw-m.net/Gallery/e36gallery/m3-76.jpg Same tint as Bobby's car, minus the windshield. You can also just open the sunroof on a sunny day, and that will make the tint much less obvious. Jonathan L.

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... - from Townsend, William
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 12:34:34 -0400 From: "Townsend, William" <wtownsen@enterasys.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... Yea, checked caster too, used the 15 degree swing measurement and was identical. I set that when I installed the camber plates. --Bill -----Original Message----- From: Patrick Goss - PA [mailto:Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 12:14 PM To: Townsend, William; E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... I thought so, and I think that's the same gauge I have too. Not sure if you remember my posts from a month or so ago, but my right side upper strut plate was incorrectly installed, such that caster was way off, and well that tire was wearing on the inside...and no toe was fine at the time..... Just a reference -----Original Message----- From: Townsend, William [mailto:wtownsen@enterasys.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2005 11:49 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 11:40:48 -0400 From: "Townsend, William" <wtownsen@enterasys.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... The gauge does both caster and camber. Has both scales on read out too. I zeroed it with a 6' level before using it. --Bill >-------------------- 7 -------------------- >Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:43:35 -0500 >From: "Patrick Goss - PA" <Patrick_Goss@GMACM.COM> >Subject: RE: [E36M3] Help, track tire wear problems..... > >Doesn't the speedmarx gauge measure castor, perhaps something is messed >up there. ************************************************* Please help support the E36M3 list by visiting our sponsors: Bimmerworld http://www.bimmerworld.com Turner Motorsport http://www.turnermotorsport.com Eurosport High Performance http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com Rogue Engineering http://www.rogueengineering.com Treehouse Racing http://www.treehouseracing.com Elephant Motorsports Inc. http://www.elephantmotorsports.com DIGEST INFORMATION: http://www.bmw-m.net/resources/digest_info.htm *************************************************

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